bicycle rack/ golf bag attachment for 07 vespa lx150
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Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:37 pm quote
I am getting a vespa and I want to ride it as much as possible. I love to golf and bicycle ride. Is there a way to mount both of these items? I have looked up bike racks and they all seem to be broken down versions. Is there a way to mount it side to side easily? And is there a simple way of strapping a golf bag?

thanks
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Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:26 am quote
There is a member who mounted his bicycle (wheel removed) on his Vespa. I can't locate it quickly, but know that it is here, somewhere. I'll check further when I have a little more time, unless someone else beats me to the link.
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Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:26 am quote
Golf Bag System
There is an aftermarket setup for a golf bag, but it wouldn't be much help for the bicycle. I have the "bikengolf" bag that I use on my GTS. It is a bag that splits in half with a center duffel type bag that sits on the seat and hold the bag in place in conjunction with the foot pegs. It is a bit expensive but I was able to find a used one.
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Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:36 am quote
Found this ...
Found some links to scooter bicycle racks in Bicycle racks for a vespa
Maynard Schweigert wrote:
I believe this is what you are looking for. http://2x2cycles.com/


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Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:38 am quote
Also check out
Take a look at Vinnie's posting in Bicycle Mount for GT200
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Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:24 am quote
for golf

http://www.ironhorsecaddybag.com/index.html

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Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:29 am quote
http://readygolf.com/index.php
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Molto Verboso
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Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:42 am quote
Found one for a scooter.
http://www.bikengolf.com/about.html



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Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:44 am quote
A word of caution. I built a bike rack for my Piaggio X9 like the one from 2x2cycles and it worked great until I hit freeway speeds. With the bike hanging off the back it created a lot of turbulence. I could feel the back of my scooter moving side to side and my scooter weighs almost 500 lbs.
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Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:01 am quote
FROG good point. I don't think any of the "holders" surf rack, golf etc would be stable enough to ride at higher speeds, just at lower speeds and even then the bike will handle differently. IMHO. Should ride it a bit with the item on, in a place without much traffic to get comfortable with the handling before hitting higher traffic areas.
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Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:04 pm quote
I simply bungee my clubs to the luggage rack....I use my walking bag....simply put the rain cover on.....snap it down and zip it up....no help for the bicycle though....hit em str8!![/list]
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Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:16 pm quote
TEX wrote:
http://www.eaglematetrailers.com/index.htm

Thats a great lookin V-ROD.....
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Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:58 pm quote
Re: Also check out
michael_h wrote:
Take a look at Vinnie's posting in Bicycle Mount for GT200
Thanks for bringing that up Michael. I reread the entire thread, and it appears I forgot to take the photos showing how to make and install the rack like I promised. Sorry about that guys.

I'm out of town the next few days racing a marathon series mountain bike race, and exterra duathlon, and a trail running race on Saturday and Sunday.

I'll post photos of the set up when I get back Tuesday. I'm also going to build an additional one for the MP3, and will post photos of the build in the next few weeks as I finish it.

I have found it very stable at highway speeds, even with the bike installed. I have driven 300+ miles with the bike attached to go race in the past with no issues.

I have also used it to haul a small bag of golf clubs to the course, but only had to go about 15 miles. With an ample use of bungee cords, teh clubs made it fine.

Vinny

[edited for spelling. I have big fingers!]
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Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:45 am quote
Bike rack
I carry my bike regularly at freeway speeds with no problem. Also in the twisties handling has not been compromised. I spoke with the two mfgs of racks and those would still take a bit of rigging to work on a scooter rack.

Golf clubs....not sure yet but would lke to see what you come up with.
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Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:29 pm quote
thanks
thanks guys, a lot to think about. Great ideas! All new to vespa's. Just got one. Its an 07 150lx. Am looking to get a rear rack first, not sure the best price and style. Some say the rear grab bar will have to be removed, are they all that way? Does it look good without? Seeing prices from 75-250.00 . Think I like the fold down one to slap on a milk crate.
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Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:41 pm quote
The grab rail should not need removing. You will need to remove the Vespa thingum at the base where the grab rail attaches.
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Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:03 pm quote
I talked to these guys.. This is only for Harley Davidsons and they will not provide for a scooter.. I have pretty much decided to lay my clubs down wedged back against my top box and bungied to the "oh shit" rails along the seat.. with the rain cover on, they should be fine.. I only have to go about 15 miles or so..
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:25 pm quote
Bike rack creation instructions and photos
To do the installation like mine, you need the Piaggio rear crash bars, 8 feet of 1" metal conduit, 18" clear rubber tubing (available in the plumbing section of most hardware stores), (6) 3" metal hose clamps, a roof rack front wheel mount, and a roof rack tray.

I cut a 3 foot section of conduit, and mounted it to the rear of the crashbars, above the license plate holder. I put a piece of clear rubber tubing around the crash bar, so that the conduit is not scratching it. Use three hose clamps to mount it.

I then took 4.5 feet of the conduit and put two offset bends into it so that it looks kind of like an 'S'. I mount that with hose clamps again. Two under the floorboards, and one on the side of the crashbars. On the side, I use the clear hose again to keep from scratching the crash bars.

I mounted the roof rack try between the two pieces of conduit sticking out.

It is very stable, and angles the bike up and out of the way so that I can still steer and put both feet on the ground, and it also has good ground clearance for still riding aggressively.

The whole thing managed to stay on when I was broadsided by a woman driving a GMC Jimmy, who pushed me down the road for about 25 meters before stopping. The rack system didn't budge. In fact, the steel roof rack itself (Yakima) snapped in two where she hit me. If it can hold up to 2500 punds of blunt force trauma, it will stand up to daily use.

If I am traveling with the mountain bike on the GTS, I will turn the rack tray around, so that the handle bars on the mountain bike are at my back, since the bar is a little wider than my road bike. The idea of taking a tumble and poking the ribs with the handlebar doesn't sound like fun. On the road bike, the handlebar does not present itself as a potential spear.

To take off and put on the whole contraptiontakes about 4-5 minutes with some practice. You just undo the hose clamps to take it off, and snap them back on when ready to assemble.

The following posts will have numerous photos of the install. If I can figure out how to upload a video to youtube, I'll show you me shaking the hell out of the GTS using the bike rack to try and demonstrate how sturdy it can be.

Vinny
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:28 pm quote
1 of about 27 photos
Photos of install

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General shot of the right side of the set up. Sorry about the glare in all the shots.

001a.jpg
Photo of right side with bike mounted

001b.jpg
Photo of backside of set up

001c.jpg
Photos of the left side of the set up

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:32 pm quote
More photos
Photos showing the install of the rear.

002.jpg
General shot of rear

003.jpg
Close up of the rear. Notice the clear rubber tubing around teh chrome crash bars. That helps prevent scratching and provides a slip resistant surface for mounting. Use three 2 1/4" hose clamps to secure the conduit to the rear of the crash bars.

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Close up showing the attachment at the rear

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:38 pm quote
More photos again
Even more. this time showing the connection where the s-bend was done in the conduit, and how it attaches to the side crash bar. Again, use clear rubber tubing to place over the metal bars for scratch resistance and non-slip attachment surfaces. To get the tubes on, I cut the tube to the size I needed, and put a slit in the tube length wise, so that I cn slip on and off the metal easily.

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Where the s-bend attaches. Also, the bike rack can attach here. I use the Yakima Viper, since it has a security feature built in that prevents theives from just slipping the rack off the conduit. Someone trying to take the whole rack off would look mor

006.jpg
Close up of the connection

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I intentionally angle the s-bend towards teh back of the GTS to provide ample leg room. I can easily place both feet on teh ground with a 56cm road bike with 44cm bars on the ground, and I stand 5'10". It also helps add ground clearance for hard co

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:42 pm quote
some more
Photos of the connection to the underpan. You have to have the Piaggio crash bars to make his set up work without cutting or drilling into the metal body.

009.jpg
side angle shot showing the connection underneath. I place two 2 1/4" hose clamps around the crash bar on each side of the plate that has the screws for connecting teh plate to the GTS.

010.jpg
Head on shot of the connection with hose clamps.. Again, use a multi-tool to hand tighten the hose clamps as hard as you can.

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:45 pm quote
Photo showing clearance
I treid to show how much clearance is between my large thighs and the bike. I can stick the palm of my hand between my thigh and the bike with several inches to spare. My palm is 5" wide (I have huge hands).

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:49 pm quote
Shots with measurements
Here are some shots showing the pieces off the GTS with measurements.

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This shows the pipe clamps used. Also, there is a small bungee cord I use on the wheel carrier to keep the wheel from spinning while travelling down the freeway.

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:58 pm quote
video of rack being shaken
Here's a quick link to a video on youtube showing the rack being shaken by me as hard as I could without tipping over the GTS.

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Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:45 am quote
2x2 cycles
I spoke with the mfg of this rack and he'll sell you a diy kit. This will mean yo will need to drill your own mounting points but the late and bike attach,ent part are already there. $179. I decided against it since I used some spare bike mnt parts to work for less than $20 of additional hardware.
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