Milk Crate Thoughts
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Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:48 pm quote
I have a 2018 vespa sprint. I temporarily put a plastic milk crate on it while thinking on a unique top case. I got used to the milk crate because its open and easy to use. I dont care for the looks. I just purchased a antique wire milk crate $15. I was thinking of getting it chromed. Thought that might look cool. Then I thought it will most likely get chipped through regular wear and tear. I then thought about getting it powder coated. Again it will chip sooner or later. Now I'm thinking treat it for rust then just spray paint it with a chrome like paint or shiny black paint to match the rims Thoughts?

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Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:45 pm quote
Re: Milk Crate Thoughts
clynch wrote:
I then thought about getting it powder coated. Again it will chip sooner or later.
I doubt it. Not if done properly.
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Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:51 pm quote
I'd stick with the plastic one. You'll end up scratching something with the metal one.
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Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:47 pm quote
I think you should mount the metal milk crate, then use the plastic one as a backrest.
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Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:19 pm quote
Chrome would just be a little too much. Black powder coat, too easy.

GREEN to match, now we're talking!
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:19 am quote
Stay with the black plastic - to match the seat !

I have just collected the wicker basket I had made to replace the unloved, needlessly discarded grey plastic hand basket I liberated from a roadside skip and gave a new home.

When I have varnished the basket I will post pics...
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:09 am quote
If you can powder coat it, do that. Generally powder coated materials don't chip.
You can add a pad as a back rest, easy to make , get 1/4 inch plywood, cut and shape to the way you want the back rest, spray glue some 1/2 inch of foam and then add a black fake leather cover and attach it to the crate. I believe most of the supplies can be found at places like Hobby Lobby or on the Amazon ...
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:41 am quote
If that is a double plastic crate, rotate it 90 degrees and the profile will improve.
That's what I use and it's no wider than the scooter body. Two full size cloth grocery bags fit inside plus you can bungee things on the seat to the crate.
In my area, powder coating is hard to find and expensive.
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:21 am quote
A fun way to modify the looks of the plastic crate would be to buy leather (or pleather/PVC,) cut it into strips, and weave it around in a basketweave pattern.
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:47 am quote
I think a vintage wooden milk crate would look much better than steel or plastic crates. If I didn't have factory trunks on my bikes, I'd put wooden milk crates on them.
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:51 am quote
Mopedlar wrote:
I think a vintage wooden milk crate would look much better than steel or plastic crates. If I didn't have factory trunks on my bikes, I'd put wooden milk crates on them.
I'm with Mopedlar. I think milk crates just cheapen the look of a nice Vespa but for some reason, a nice vintage wooden crate adds a bit of style. Just my opinion though. Of course the steel crate would be stronger.

Go with whatever you think looks best and suits your fancy.
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:09 am quote
I second the recommendation for black powdercoat on the wire crate.

If done properly, powdercoat is very durable and in black would minimize it visually.

The downside for using any crate is security of items and protection from weather. It really depends on how you're going to use it, and personal choices as well.

Do it in black!!!
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:54 am quote
I dunno. Your scooter is so shiny that a chrome crate would set it off nicely. But, a shiny thing will get people's attention and since it's not a secure space... well....
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:37 pm quote
If you go with wood, that's easy to fix if it breaks and any minor damage just 'adds' to the vintage appeal.

If you go with plastic then again damage isn't an issue in regards to scratches on your rack and it's just black plastic so who cares. It does match the seat and all but I can also see the 'cheap' look of it all.

If you go with the wire case there's a kinda charm to the natural aluminum look.

I guess what I'm trying to say here is that why not do all 3... or 4 if you find a wicker basket =)
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:30 pm quote
You would not want to chrome the metal milk crate. Chrome work has become very expensive and only a few specialty shops even do it any more. Powder coating, on the other hand, is fairly cost effective, very durable, and there is an almost unlimited selection of finishes and colors. Of course, if special appearance isn't important, just leave the crate as is - but if you have some special result in mind, powder coating is the answer.
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:49 pm quote
I don't have a milk crate, just a rack. I took off my top case & sold it to a fellow MV'er for $50. Why?
I found that for many straddling the vespa was not possible with the top case or a milk crate. They have to get onto the back by sliding in first and then I have to get on and that wasn't always fun (I am more atuned to just straddling my Vespa like a motorbike)
I keep a few old inner tubes from bicycles and they serve as bungees when I need to transport anything on the carrier, it generally is a box and I strap it down and that works for me.
I have seen many milk crates here in NYC on the Vespa's primarily they are plastic kind.
You have the metal one, powder coating would work, or the simplest is to use a rust converter, clean it after that, then spray coat it with clear coat enamel.
Probably all be done for $20 and it should be good for a long time.
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:14 pm quote
Thanks for the Help!
Thanks for the opinions.I do like the open crate. I only use the crate when returning from the grocery store. Lots of thumbs up on powder coating. I will definitely look into that. For now, I'll strap it on as is. Make sure there isn't any down side from the black plastic. The scoot is a shiny green with chrome. I thought more shiny chrome color might set it off nicely. Shiny black does have appeal and it matches up nicely with the hubs. OK, strap it on as is, get used to it and think about color. One downside is the cage does have some weight. I'm a little over 200 so I don't see where there would be an issue with a heavy cage in the back. On a flat road I almost pull 70 Vespa miles WOT. Have to try it with the cage and see. The cage is from 1967 (50+ yrs). Thanks again. Love this forum. Great group!
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:37 pm quote
Re: Thanks for the Help!
clynch wrote:
Thanks for the opinions.I do like the open crate. I only use the crate when returning from the grocery store. Lots of thumbs up on powder coating. I will definitely look into that. For now, I'll strap it on as is. Make sure there isn't any down side from the black plastic. The scoot is a shiny green with chrome. I thought more shiny chrome color might set it off nicely. Shiny black does have appeal and it matches up nicely with the hubs. OK, strap it on as is, get used to it and think about color. One downside is the cage does have some weight. I'm a little over 200 so I don't see where there would be an issue with a heavy cage in the back. On a flat road I almost pull 70 Vespa miles WOT. Have to try it with the cage and see. The cage is from 1967 (50+ yrs). Thanks again. Love this forum. Great group!
You probably already know, but Scooterwest sells a fine mesh black wire basket. Not too spendy, either.
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:58 pm quote
What about a clear anti-rust coating?

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Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:04 pm quote
I recommend a top case. You can lock you full face and other gear in it and its lines go great with the bike. I'm not hot on milk crates, personally. Note that you can't put a full face helmet in the pet carrier.

I you do powder coat it, it will be quite durable and I think you could get a green that is sorta close.

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Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:12 pm quote
I also wanted unique top cases. On one I have a wicker basket, on antoher one I have a leather topcase (not so unique in other parts of the world but it is unique in Guatemala) and I have a wine wooden crate waiting to be fixed and used as a top box. Now need to find the time to figure out how to fix it.

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Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:39 pm quote
You spend the $$ for chrome crash bars....then say looks don't matter to you and stick a milk crate on your expensive scooter?
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:47 pm quote
Just a thought on the overhang.

In Florida does the license plate/light have to be on the furthest rear part of the vehicle?
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:10 am quote
waspmike wrote:
Just a thought on the overhang.

In Florida does the license plate/light have to be on the furthest rear part of the vehicle?
I don't think there's any requirement other than it illuminates the plate.
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:22 am quote
Some top cases are more "cool" than others.

I really like the wooden wine crate, I think it makes a statement without making too much of a statement.

Mine screams "half of the professor dork" accessory pack (I don't have the fairing/windshield that usually matches the topcase)

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Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:10 am quote
Dooglas wrote:
You would not want to chrome the metal milk crate. Chrome work has become very expensive and only a few specialty shops even do it any more. Powder coating, on the other hand, is fairly cost effective, very durable, and there is an almost unlimited selection of finishes and colors. Of course, if special appearance isn't important, just leave the crate as is - but if you have some special result in mind, powder coating is the answer.
Chrome powder coating, on the other hand, looks great and is inexpensive!
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:37 am quote
Jet Peddler wrote:
Mopedlar wrote:
I think a vintage wooden milk crate would look much better than steel or plastic crates. If I didn't have factory trunks on my bikes, I'd put wooden milk crates on them.
I'm with Mopedlar. I think milk crates just cheapen the look of a nice Vespa but for some reason, a nice vintage wooden crate adds a bit of style. Just my opinion though. Of course the steel crate would be stronger.

Go with whatever you think looks best and suits your fancy.
I am thinking about fashioning one out of teak. I have some scraps laying around and have used them on the boat finish. Thought it would look kind of cool and I could streamline it so it wasn’t so square.
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:06 pm quote
spray the metal one with truck bed liner spray.
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:26 pm quote
I like the input
Thanks for the input. I appreciate it. I never said looks don't matter. I think Vespa is all about looks. I've been looking at crates, top cases and such for months. The plastic crate is for needed functionality while I look around for something definitive. I go to the store a lot and the crate is easy. I want something that is unique to dress up the bike, hence an antique wire crate and powder coating. At this point in time I'm still thinking chrome powder coating. I'll post the outcome when I'm done. Thanks again. The ideas and pictures were great.
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:09 pm quote
If the galvanizing is shiny you can, get clear powder coat.

Bear in mind that the powder coat will stick to the galvanizing so if the galvanizing flakes....

Unless you sand blast the galvanizing off.

Oh and you need outdoor pigment not indoor pigment. There is a difference.
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:32 pm quote
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Thanks for the heads up on the galvanizing. I'm going to get the powder coating from an automobile restoration shop. They should know how to do it right. Hopefully.
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:59 pm quote
Larrytsg wrote:
Some top cases are more "cool" than others.

I really like the wooden wine crate, I think it makes a statement without making too much of a statement.

Mine screams "half of the professor dork" accessory pack (I don't have the fairing/windshield that usually matches the topcase)
What JC Whitney catalog did you find that in? It reminds me of Vetter fairings and fiberglass saddlebags and Sargent king and queen saddles.
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:01 pm quote
In the OP's case I like the chrome paint or chrome powdercoat approach myself.

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Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:00 pm quote
Really?!
Milk crate on a beater moped, maybe - but on a Vespa?!
'Course if you're asking our options -- it's already too late.

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Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:03 pm quote
Larrytsg wrote:
Some top cases are more "cool" than others.

I really like the wooden wine crate, I think it makes a statement without making too much of a statement.

Mine screams "half of the professor dork" accessory pack (I don't have the fairing/windshield that usually matches the topcase)
That's a Samsonite, isn't it! My mom had one.
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Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:12 am quote
Samsonite? No, it's from a company called ARE and it's called "The Box", quite a descriptive name. And when I bought the scoot 6 years ago, the seller threw in the top box, woo hoo!


I've always wanted to use a Samsonite train case on my rear rack, but I really like dropping my helmet or a few bags of groceries or an armored jacket in there without thinking about it.

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