How Tight Do You Like it?
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P125X, P200E
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Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:45 pm quote
I recently replaced the shifter Inners and Outers on my 1980 P200 and need to set the play in the cables. I normally like things tight but I've read that if it's too tight, it could create too much pressure and prevent things from moving easily.

On the other hand if it's too loose and sloppy then it just isn't going to work well.

How do you guys set your cables and is there a rule-of-thumb as to how much I can rotate the shift handle in each gear?
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Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:16 pm quote
If the shifter can rotate more than halfway between numbers in any gear, cables need adjusting.
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Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:52 pm quote
ok, if I'm reading you right, you're saying that in 3rd gear for example, the handle should not rotate more that between 2.5 and 3.5. Is that correct?
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Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:52 am quote
Right
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Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:55 am quote
You want a tiny bit of slack so you don't put an unnecessary load on the batwing bearing in the shift box. When you adjust them, try for snug as possible but not tight. After a hundred shifts they will likely be right in the range described. Mostly you'll feel your way thru the gears rather than looking at the numbers anyway and you'll know that the modest slop is desirable & OK.
Molto Verboso
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Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:10 am quote
Agree with the above, I thought mine were a bit loose on Bella and when I visited the local dealer they took her for a ride and declared they were spot on. Nice to get confirmation from the professionals.
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'66 Super 150
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Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:33 pm quote
This is very helpful. I've been going all Goldilocks on my clutch cable after it snapped twice in a row last summer. "Modest slop" is a good term.

Hope you get your cables just right, Fatbear.
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Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:48 pm quote
Modest slop. Works for me.
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:31 am quote
[Kimono32
This is very helpful. I've been going all Goldilocks on my clutch cable after it snapped twice in a row last summer. "Modest slop" is a good term.

Hope you get your cables just right, Fatbear.]

Yes, cables feel Just Right right now. I'm going to take a 40 mile run around the Fresno foothills this afternoon (there's a Roadhouse at the midpoint) just to make sure that everything is set up properly.

I was glad to see your post. We haven't heard from you in a LONG time, and many of us were wondering if that was because everything was running well for you... or that your were giving up on your Vespa.

It sounds like you are still riding which is, of course, good news.
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:39 pm quote
I just finished my 40 mile run... cables were "Just Right", the beer was cold and the temperature was comfortable (Under 100 degrees). All in all, it was a damned good day... the kind of day that makes owing a Vespa such a joy.
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Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:59 pm quote
Great job! Glad it got sorted. See you in a week man
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:00 am quote
qascooter wrote:
Modest slop. Works for me.
I bet you like your rain "Mildly moist"
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:24 am quote
Fatbear5 wrote:
[Kimono32...
I was glad to see your post. We haven't heard from you in a LONG time, and many of us were wondering if that was because everything was running well for you... or that your were giving up on your Vespa.

It sounds like you are still riding which is, of course, good news.
I was wondering the same thing. I suppose it's hard to find time when the kids are out of school. Hope you get some time to enjoy scooting!
Hooked
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:40 pm quote
JKJ-FZ6 wrote:
Fatbear5 wrote:
[Kimono32...
I was glad to see your post. We haven't heard from you in a LONG time, and many of us were wondering if that was because everything was running well for you... or that your were giving up on your Vespa.

It sounds like you are still riding which is, of course, good news.
I was wondering the same thing. I suppose it's hard to find time when the kids are out of school. Hope you get some time to enjoy scooting!
"Give up?" Oh, no no no. Not my style--too stubborn. I won't hijack your thread, Fatbear, but see my response on my old Dreamer thread. Glad your clutch is Just Right now
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