Sadly, lightning strikes again.
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Rocket Man
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:19 am quote
Please use caution when you make the decision to ride your bike when lightning is in the area. Yesterday, a North Carolina man was riding his MC on I-95 near Daytona. Typical Florida thunderstorms are a daily occurrence down here. With the approaching storm is the increased possibility of a clear sky lightning strike. Unfortunately, this young 45 yo individual was a victim of a clear sky strike from an approaching storm. Witnesses stated that a lightning bolt struck the rider directly on his helmet, killing him instantly. Yes, a helmet does provide a grounding path.

I’m sure most here understand this hazard. You’re not protected by a cage. Just putting out a reminder. Ride safe!

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The rider’s helmet showing path of lightning strike.

Molto Verboso
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:02 am quote
I just read this story on my news feed. So sad. Ride safe everyone.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:21 am quote
Crazy.

Talk about a freak accident. I guess the only way to avoid such an occurrence is to just not ride when lightening is likely in a given area.

How else could you prevent such a thing?
Ossessionato
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:00 am quote
I'll be taking that risk every work day for the next 4 months. If my choice is this or cancer, I take this.
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:02 am quote


Holy ….
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:18 am quote
How sad. I did not know lightning can be present under clear skies.
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:21 am quote
That is a real tragedy I wouldn't wish on anyone. Some years ago I was dispatched to a nearby lake, just as a major storm was spinning up, to inform any campers in the recreation area who might somehow have not been aware, that very shortly, life-as-we-know-it was about to end and that they might wish to proceed to cover.

While driving around the grounds and using the PA system, it started to rain so hard that I lost the ability to see and parked the unit right at the top of a boat loading ramp, which in retrospect, might not have been my smartest move.

I'm parked on the top of this hill, watching a torrent of water flood across the windshield, when all of the sudden it sounded, and felt, like a grenade had gone off. My entire body felt like it had instantly been scalded, and I had trouble hearing. The sounds of the storm were quite muted just then. And, every bit of electronics wired into that patrol unit were knocked off-line, including the engine. The lightening strike seemed to hit about two feet in front of the vehicle, at most, and I didn't feel "right" for about three days afterwards. All the wiring and circuit boards in the unit were fried.

These days, when I'm out and about, and especially when riding on a PTW, if there is a storm front withing about 2,000 miles or so, I make sure that I am not Paul Bunyan, standing tall amidst my surroundings.

I was left with a glowing personality though.......
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:08 am quote
Route 66 Lawdog wrote:
I was left with a glowing personality though.......
And completely plaque-free teeth!


I've been close enough to lightning to be nervous, fortunately moving away from it quickly.... Still, probably guilty of not being nervous enough....
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:18 am quote
Don’t assume this poor rider was riding when “lightning is likely.”
Lightning can strike 25 miles ahead of a storm, before any storm clouds are noticeable.

This happened near me a couple years ago at a schools outdoor athletic event and one was killed and others injured. Many nearby towns and school districts now have lightning detectors and siren warning systems.
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:20 pm quote
Re: Sadly, lightning strikes again.
flordian wrote:
Yes, a helmet does provide a grounding path.
Not required. Aircraft get hit by lightning. I've seen it bypass lightning rods on houses and hit the ground in-between. Some people think rubber tires protect them. Maybe from downed power lines, but not lightning. Yes, be careful.
Hooked
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:46 pm quote
Lightning makes its own path to ground. Air is a horrible electrical conductor, and lightning goes through miles of it without issue.

I used to scoff at thunderstorms on the bike, and then one day while I was riding home from work a bolt struck so close to me I could “feel the heat”. The reality is I probably felt some of the ancillary current flow. I’ve had a lot more respect for lightning since then.

I feel bad for this rider and his family, but I hope when his time came he was truly doing what he loved.
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:36 pm quote
Re: Sadly, lightning strikes again.
pokeyjoe wrote:
flordian wrote:
Yes, a helmet does provide a grounding path.
Not required. Aircraft get hit by lightning. I've seen it bypass lightning rods on houses and hit the ground in-between. Some people think rubber tires protect them. Maybe from downed power lines, but not lightning. Yes, be careful.
Actually, "rubber" tires don't insulate vehicles from lightning. The carbon black in them conducts electricity efficiently to the ground, and the metal frame of the car carries the charge around the interior.

Michelin made an eco friendly tire a few years back with a low carbon black content and car owners were getting big static sparks when their bodies made contact between the car and the ground. Michelin ended up reformulating the tires.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:15 pm quote
If you can see lightning, it can see you. Stay safe out there!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:46 am quote
Re: Sadly, lightning strikes again.
pokeyjoe wrote:
flordian wrote:
Yes, a helmet does provide a grounding path.
Not required. Aircraft get hit by lightning. I've seen it bypass lightning rods on houses and hit the ground in-between. Some people think rubber tires protect them. Maybe from downed power lines, but not lightning. Yes, be careful.
New tires actually have lots of Carbon in them. Carbon is a very good conductor of electricity. So tires do you no good
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:23 am quote
Heh, love you guys. The Germans must have a word for motorcyclists debating the conductivity of mc tire compounds...because, let’s face it, lightening strikes statistically kill roughly as many motorcyclists as, say, great white sharks kill one legged Kansas beet farmers....
Compared to simply riding a motorcycle...
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:51 am quote
Fascinating posts tho! And yeah, let’s face this: we’re all gonna go somehow, might as well be this painlessly awesomely.

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Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:58 am quote
tdrake wrote:
Heh, love you guys. The Germans must have a word for motorcyclists debating the conductivity of mc tire compounds...because, let’s face it, lightening strikes statistically kill roughly as many motorcyclists as, say, great white sharks kill one legged Kansas wheat farmers....
Compared to simply riding a motorcycle...
Fixed that for ya. I lived in Kansas 20 years and never came across a beet farm
When I moved to FL. I was at the post office changing my address. The postal worker said "so you're moving to where the hurricanes are", I said " I'll see you in Ozz Toto".
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:23 am quote
breaknwind wrote:
tdrake wrote:
Heh, love you guys. The Germans must have a word for motorcyclists debating the conductivity of mc tire compounds...because, let’s face it, lightening strikes statistically kill roughly as many motorcyclists as, say, great white sharks kill one legged Kansas wheat farmers....
Compared to simply riding a motorcycle...
Fixed that for ya. I lived in Kansas 20 years and never came across a beet farm
Aye, there's the rub.
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:28 am quote
breaknwind wrote:
tdrake wrote:
Heh, love you guys. The Germans must have a word for motorcyclists debating the conductivity of mc tire compounds...because, let’s face it, lightening strikes statistically kill roughly as many motorcyclists as, say, great white sharks kill one legged Kansas wheat farmers....
Compared to simply riding a motorcycle...
Fixed that for ya. I lived in Kansas 20 years and never came across a beet farm
Suggesting that you HAVE seen a great white shark in a Kansas field of something else?

Was it eating a farmer of any sort, or just the usual (trainer)?
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:36 am quote
Madison Sully wrote:
breaknwind wrote:
tdrake wrote:
Heh, love you guys. The Germans must have a word for motorcyclists debating the conductivity of mc tire compounds...because, let’s face it, lightening strikes statistically kill roughly as many motorcyclists as, say, great white sharks kill one legged Kansas wheat farmers....
Compared to simply riding a motorcycle...
Fixed that for ya. I lived in Kansas 20 years and never came across a beet farm
Suggesting that you HAVE seen a great white shark in a Kansas field of something else?

Was it eating a farmer of any sort, or just the usual (trainer)?
It was eating the beet farmer trainer thus explaining the lack of beet farms.
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Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:41 am quote
fledermaus wrote:
breaknwind wrote:
tdrake wrote:
Heh, love you guys. The Germans must have a word for motorcyclists debating the conductivity of mc tire compounds...because, let’s face it, lightening strikes statistically kill roughly as many motorcyclists as, say, great white sharks kill one legged Kansas wheat farmers....
Compared to simply riding a motorcycle...
Fixed that for ya. I lived in Kansas 20 years and never came across a beet farm
Aye, there's the rub.
"A doctor who was bitten by a shark while vacationing in Hawaii is recovering at home in Kansas."

https://fox2now.com/2015/03/23/kansas-man-bit-by-shark-in-hawaii-back-home/

And then there's this guy (who made the Kansas newspapers):

https://www-1.kansas.com/news/nation-world/national/article209569039.html

No wheat (or beet) farmers, though.
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:49 pm quote
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:59 pm quote
breaknwind wrote:
I'll be taking that risk every work day for the next 4 months. If my choice is this or cancer, I take this.
Yes. The motorcyclist was a bit young but he didn't feel or know anything.
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:01 pm quote
mpfrank wrote:
And then there's this guy (who made the Kansas newspapers):

https://www-1.kansas.com/news/nation-world/national/article209569039.html

Talking of bears did they find the journalist yet?
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