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Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:05 am quote
This one must be a good deal I love all the reviews he has written himself

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1968-vintage-Vespa-VLB-Sprint-150-Fully-Restored-SHOWROOM-CONDITIONS/333286838243?hash=item4d99718fe3:g:MlAAAOSwCcJdF3JV
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:08 pm quote
have to admit... it's pretty shiny

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Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:30 pm quote
this is a new thing for me.....i didn't realize that shitty asian copies were known as 'bodges'.....funny as feck....you learn something everyday.....LOL
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:00 pm quote
iggydaybreaker wrote:
this is a new thing for me.....i didn't realize that shitty asian copies were known as 'bodges'.....funny as feck....you learn something everyday.....LOL
I've seen many spend $4000-5000 for a crappy bodge and then quit the hobbie because of the disappointment. Very sad.
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Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:39 pm quote
But they are rarely 'copies'. They are usually Italian shells, simply well beyond their expiration date sometimes joined at the hip with another then filled with incorrect or badly made and often dangerous parts. According to legend, a few are well done from a few shops for a few hooked up people, but all else is buyer beware. All due credit to the ppl who do the work, they are exceedingly clever. Sometimes too clever & I won't mention the sellers in the business both here & there.
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:07 am quote
I've been interested in Vespas for years, but just started actually diving into learning about them a couple of days ago. I was totally unaware of this Asian bodge phenomenon, but I love it; it's super interesting! I guess this explains Jeremy Clarkson's two tone Vespa from the Top Gear Vietnam special that ended up getting its entire drive train replaced almost immediately. Anyway, I have some personal bodge experience to share as I think I've found the one legitimately acceptable usage for a bodged Vespa (assuming the purchase price was appropriately low): park it as a prop in the entrance to your pizza joint for some added Italian flair! All it has to do is sit there and look pretty, which it certainly does.





When they first installed this, I thought "Oh wow, that's a nice vintage Vespa, it must have been expensive." Now I know enough to say "Oh wow, that's probably mostly Bondo." I'm still a greenhorn when it comes to determining what is and isn't correct for the various models and years on these things, but I know enough to be weary of that two tone paint job, chrome accessories (badge wings in particular, and possibly the extra leg shield glove box(?) on this one.
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:05 pm quote
r_fostoria wrote:
I've been interested in Vespas for years, but just started actually diving into learning about them a couple of days ago. I was totally unaware of this Asian bodge phenomenon, but I love it; it's super interesting! I guess this explains Jeremy Clarkson's two tone Vespa from the Top Gear Vietnam special that ended up getting its entire drive train replaced almost immediately. Anyway, I have some personal bodge experience to share as I think I've found the one legitimately acceptable usage for a bodged Vespa (assuming the purchase price was appropriately low): park it as a prop in the entrance to your pizza joint for some added Italian flair! All it has to do is sit there and look pretty, which it certainly does.





When they first installed this, I thought "Oh wow, that's a nice vintage Vespa, it must have been expensive." Now I know enough to say "Oh wow, that's probably mostly Bondo." I'm still a greenhorn when it comes to determining what is and isn't correct for the various models and years on these things, but I know enough to be weary of that two tone paint job, chrome accessories (badge wings in particular, and possibly the extra leg shield glove box(?) on this one.
There is plenty sign of bodge on this one. 10" wheel, addition glovebox on legshield, new lock on cowl side glovebox, addition killswitch lock.....
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:43 pm quote


This one is my favorite. The owner of these beautiful cars can apparently afford one of the best and highest quality bodges that look the coolest. Just look at the attention to detail, like those cute little blinkies and the matched luggage.
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Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:52 am quote
GS150...

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Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:08 am quote
Flashbacks, I'm having FLASHBACKS!
Its a survivor!
With ohh so many of this specific model/design/paintjob being sold & only A mere $7500...

1967
150 Vespa Scooter
Purchased in 2010
Has been sitting in my dining room since then
In very good condition for its age
Not registered and not running
Not sure if is registerable
I don't know what it needs to get running again
Great show piece for a café or your home
Selling as is where is
Will answer any questions that I can
WILL NOT REGISTER IT SO PLEASE DONT ASK

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F193012451023

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Dunno quite what's happening at the front!

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I'm not 100% sure its a "bodge", but suspect it is

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Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:26 am quote
V oodoo wrote:


This one is my favorite. The owner of these beautiful cars can apparently afford one of the best and highest quality bodges that look the coolest. Just look at the attention to detail, like those cute little blinkies and the matched luggage.
It's on Ebay with 10 bids. Sitting at $2050 now but the reserve not met.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vespa-Piaggio-150cc-very-clean/202755446006?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D093edc6a17a3467384abfac3b5ca2e62%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D10%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D382942383516%26itm%3D202755446006%26pg%3D2481888&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Ad2b31095-c039-11e9-92b4-74dbd180f08b%7Cparentrq%3A9b06f11116c0a9e3aa909bb4fff418cf%7Ciid%3A1
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Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:46 am quote
What do we think? This one is a bit more subtle, but the chrome fender accessories and seat mount, floormats, leg shield trim, 10 inch wheels, front link cover, and reproduction speedometer all smell of bodgeiness.

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/mcy/d/north-olmsted-1965-italian-vespa-vbb/6955356362.html

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Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:48 pm quote
I think you're right. Has the raised up lo mile speedo but they forgot to chrome plate the coller under the headset on this one.


Meanwhile, looks like neighbor of someone on the main page somehow got a hold of one: http://modernvespa.com/forum/post2340674#2340674

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Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:03 pm quote
Here's one with not one, but TWO nice old Fiats and another Vespa in the pic. He must KNOW this is a sketchy scooter, but he's still looking for top dollar even if it had never been to Asia. Maybe he paid that much for it. Yours for $5500 & has only 836 miles!

https://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/mcy/d/franklin-square-1969-vespa-150-sprint/6936617792.html
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Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:22 pm quote
V oodoo wrote:
Here's one with not one, but TWO nice old Fiats and another Vespa in the pic. He must KNOW this is a sketchy scooter, but he's still looking for top dollar even if it had never been to Asia. Maybe he paid that much for it. Yours for $5500 & has only 836 miles!

https://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/mcy/d/franklin-square-1969-vespa-150-sprint/6936617792.html
Maybe the Fiats are bodges, too.

For that kind of money, I'd at least expect an antique white ugly-ass seat.
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Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:50 pm quote
r_fostoria wrote:
What do we think? This one is a bit more subtle, but the chrome fender accessories and seat mount, floormats, leg shield trim, 10 inch wheels, front link cover, and reproduction speedometer all smell of bodgeiness.

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/mcy/d/north-olmsted-1965-italian-vespa-vbb/6955356362.html

Key key key by the choke & fuel lever...
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:03 am quote
https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/mcy/d/brooklyn-1960s-vespa/6959268419.html

Px brake and frame. Probably same with motor, if not LML.
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:35 am quote
1966 handle bar GS ?
i'll just leave this here...

https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/1966-Vespa-GS-5006537806

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Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:35 pm quote
My favorite part of this one is the shower curtain rack.

https://okaloosa.craigslist.org/mcy/d/miramar-beach-vespa-classic-1979/6963826707.html
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:00 am quote
How did they title this scoot to be a 1956? restamp? fake paper?

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Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:26 pm quote
Bodge or not, who sells a scooter for $3750 then demands $300 more for the registration papers 'if needed' ?
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:39 pm quote
I love that the seller considers “fresh gas” a selling point
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Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:16 pm quote
V oodoo wrote:
Bodge or not, who sells a scooter for $3750 then demands $300 more for the registration papers 'if needed' ?
translation.. its gonna cost him 200 to get phoney papers from his guy at the DMV. And then he's gotta make a buck on top of that too!
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:54 pm quote
he doesnt promise whether it's a CA or VT title.
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:48 pm quote
he has it for 8-9yrs and a "clean" title.

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Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:12 am quote
Well, that's a shame...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/404547790262947/
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Need help.
Look for vespa mechanic near Annapolis, MD
It is tilted " 71" 150 cc vespa sprint , 2 stroke, came fr Vietnam.
Got compression, no sparks.
Wiling to bring vespa to you, just want to get it running or sparks. Will pay cash for your labor.
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:24 pm quote
Sorry if this isn't appropriate, but has anyone gone bodgespotting in the for sale forum of MV lately. I'm no expert, but I have my doubts about this one.
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Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:32 pm quote
Haha. He didn’t even bother with the yellow boots...
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Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:45 am quote
And just joined two days ago. Really picked the wrong place to try and sell that. Don't ya think?
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Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:12 am quote
tennille75 wrote:
And just joined two days ago. Really picked the wrong place to try and sell that. Don't ya think?
The link isn't showing up for me. Are you guys talking about this bodge spectacular?

[CHICAGO] 1969 Vespa Sprint 150

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Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:22 pm quote
buy me, I'm cute!
2 tone SEATS, plural, a clincher!



My eyes hurt anyway, and I'm a seat man too
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Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:49 am quote
Damn thats just gross...

One day I’m gonna get my hands on one and sand blast it to see how many scooters are underneath that “paint”
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Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:50 pm quote
Is this a bodge? It's on the Chicago Craig's List if anyone has an interest.

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Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:54 pm quote
shoprat75 wrote:
Is this a bodge? It's on the Chicago Craig's List if anyone has an interest.
It's not a bodge, it's just horribly tacky.

Also:

"How can you tell if a Mod's bike belongs to a REAL Mod?"

"The mirrors are all set so he can see himself."
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Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:03 am quote
Movie STAR!
r_fostoria wrote:
tennille75 wrote:
And just joined two days ago. Really picked the wrong place to try and sell that. Don't ya think?
The link isn't showing up for me. Are you guys talking about this bodge spectacular?

[CHICAGO] 1969 Vespa Sprint 150

I may have to reconsider:
Quote:
I have a 1969 Vespa Sprint 150 for sale. Driven by Chance the Rapper in the movie "Slice."

Odometer reads 308.1

It sustained some damage being transported from set (pictures available upon request).

In working condition, but may be best suited for someone wanting a restoration project. Open to offers.
restoration project..... What?

But it's already been professionally restored by experts. And ad copy implies minor damage only. Working condition, lo miles. Famous.

No need for expensive, do it all over again from what I can see and he's open to offers.... Hmmmm.

I'd just say

Quote:
$500 or best offer. Salvage scooter badly damaged in big chase scene finale, beating 2020 Corvette in hit movie "Slice" ridden like stolen by a pro in leathers and put away wet. So now it's just junk for you to paw thru removing movie momentos to peddle on EBay and retire. Lots of pretty parts and some can be used so it's all good. BlueRay of the movie included free.
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Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:18 am quote
VBC150 Super anyone? Go on... you KNOW its genuine!
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F223686894774

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Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:23 am quote
I read this monumental report and at first I was baffled, then reconsidering the title and the subject I understood better.
From what I understand there are three types of restoration:
1) the conservative one that remains the Vespa as it is found but more or less original
2) the conservative one that remains the Vespa as it is found but modified more or less heavily
3) the total restoration that returns to the original
I believe that the case 2 is being treated for this topic
Not for this reason I think that it does not have its value and its meaning, one of the souls of the Vespa is also being able to modify it even in an extreme way because it is also synonymous with freedom ... or not?
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Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:59 am quote
Attila wrote:
I read this monumental report and at first I was baffled, then reconsidering the title and the subject I understood better.
From what I understand there are three types of restoration:
1) the conservative one that remains the Vespa as it is found but more or less original
2) the conservative one that remains the Vespa as it is found but modified more or less heavily
3) the total restoration that returns to the original
I believe that the case 2 is being treated for this topic
Not for this reason I think that it does not have its value and its meaning, one of the souls of the Vespa is also being able to modify it even in an extreme way because it is also synonymous with freedom ... or not?
Attila--I think it is not a question of conservative versus heavy restoration. Rather, a bodge is a scooter that has had a terribly rough life, often in a Southeast Asia country, and that someone then does a bunch of surface cosmetic work on using non-original parts so that is very shiny and so that it will appeal to uneducated buyers. Right below the shiny (and often ridiculously ostentatious) surface, you will still find that poor scooter that was beaten to death and that still has an enormous number of structural and/or mechanical issues, as well as safety issues.
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