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Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:02 am quote
We all have our first loves...thereís something about them. For me itís the BVís. Vespas are cool... but Every time I see a BV scooter, I want one. I know itís not a perfect ride, (what ride is), but dang, some of the new ones look so super sweet.

How about you. What particular brand of vehicle do you love, no matter what.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:36 am quote
My SH150i. It's not as fast as the BV's but it's faster than most 150's out there. I can do a full piston/cylinder/head replacement without separating the engine from the bike. Avg. 80 MPG. The rear wheel lasts 10,000 miles. Flat deck to ease foot placement.
The next time I see a good deal on a red low mileage one, I'm buying it.
When the commuter starts to fail(hoping +60,000 miles) I'll get a Tmax/Silverwing/C650gt type bike. Then I'll have Quick gas sipper, Stoplight to stoplight flogger and a highway bike.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:41 am quote
Yeah, I get what you are saying.

My GTS300 is simply the best, looks so cool, goes so cool, and is so practical for just about everything I want to do. That includes medium to longer distance touring.

I often go to the garage for something and end up just standing looking at the bike, admiring it's curves, soaking up the Vespa vibes.

Been riding for 50 years now, had just about every sort of bike, from huge, to big, to small. But now I've grown up. I own a Vespa!
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:14 am quote
My 79 Lambretta Jet 200 was probably my favourite scoot. When I moved back to Canada to the US years ago I sold my entire stable off though. Now itís my 2017 kitted GTV 300 that I suppose is it. The thing is I love all my bikes and they all serve separate purposes.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:34 am quote
... I admit it, I have to confess a sin first ... You will forgive me but I have always loved Japanese motorcycles first and then Japanese scooters. We Italians do not particularly like the Vespa, we recognize that it is an example but finally we guide the practical and flashy things. In my case I also like beautiful mechanics, the one that despite being simple develops into a complex idea. I am particularly attached to the Yamaha brand, from their vehicles I only had satisfactions, the first Yamaha scooter the Majesty 250 and if I could I would buy it back. Even the current Tricity is overall gorgeous but the best answer is that I loved them all. Instead, I hated the BV 250 because it often broke and had poor quality components, one of the reasons why I no longer bought Piaggio vehicles
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:36 am quote
Attila wrote:
We Italians do not particularly like the Vespa, we recognize that it is an example but finally we guide the practical and flashy things.
Oh I think there are a lot of Italians that love the Vespa.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:44 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
Attila wrote:
We Italians do not particularly like the Vespa, we recognize that it is an example but finally we guide the practical and flashy things.
Oh I think there are a lot of Italians that love the Vespa.
Foreign female tourists on Vespas in particular ?
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:01 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
Attila wrote:
We Italians do not particularly like the Vespa, we recognize that it is an example but finally we guide the practical and flashy things.
Oh I think there are a lot of Italians that love the Vespa.
There are more admirers outside Italy, believe me ...
https://www.quotidianomotori.com/moto/mercato-moto-2019/3/

The Top 100 scooter ranking
# Brand Model Segment Tot. 2019
1 HONDA ITALIA SH 125 Scooter 10008
2 HONDA ITALIA SH 150 Scooter 8997
3 HONDA ITALIA SH 300 Scooter 8673
4 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 300 ABS Scooter 8212
5 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 125 ABS Scooter 5910

6 KYMCO AGILITY 125 R16 Scooter 5162
7 YAMAHA XMAX 300 Scooter 4609
8 HONDA X-ADV 750 Scooter 4263
9 HONDA FORZA 300 Scooter 4209
10 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 350 Scooter 3825
11 PIAGGIO VESPA GTS 300 Scooter 3495
12 PIAGGIO MEDLEY 125 Scooter 3070

13 YAMAHA TMAX Scooter 2881
14 SYM SYMPHONY 125 S Scooter 2872
15 KYMCO PEOPLE S 150 Scooter 2846
16 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRING 125 Scooter 2725
17 KYMCO PEOPLE S 125 Scooter 2693
18 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 125 CORPORATE Scooter 2593
19 KYMCO X-TOWN 300I Scooter 2056
20 HONDA SH MODE 125 Scooter 1904
21 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 150 ABS Scooter 1743
22 YAMAHA XMAX 400 Scooter 1689
23 KYMCO PEOPLE ONE 125I Scooter 1607
24 PIAGGIO MEDLEY 150 Scooter 1544
25 KYMCO XCITING 400 S Scooter 1538
26 YAMAHA XENTER 125 Scooter 1284
27 KYMCO DOWNTOWN 350I ABS Scooter 1215
28 HONDA ITALIA PCX 125 Scooter 1132
29 SYM SYMPHONY 200 ST Scooter 1121
30 HONDA INTEGRA Scooter 1113
31 KYMCO AGILITY 150 R16 Scooter 1110
32 ASKOLL ES3 Scooter 1045
33 BMW C 400 X Scooter 1033
34 PEUGEOT TWEET 125 Scooter 1009
35 HONDA ITALIA VISION 110 Scooter 1006
36 SYM SYMPHONY 125 ST Scooter 943
37 YAMAHA NMAX 125 Scooter 870
38 YAMAHA TRICITY 155 Scooter 839
39 BMW C 400 GT Scooter 803
40 QUADRO QOODER Scooter 776
41 KYMCO AK 550 Scooter 759
42 SUZUKI AN400A BURGMAN Scooter 727
43 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRING 150 Scooter 720
44 YAMAHA XMAX 125 Scooter 672
45 SYM HD 300 Scooter 617
46 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRINT 125 Scooter 582
47 PIAGGIO MP3 300 HPE Scooter 580

48 BMW C 650 SPORT Scooter 560
49 YAMAHA TRICITY 125 Scooter 559
50 KYMCO PEOPLE GTI 300 Scooter 544
51 YAMAHA NMAX 155 Scooter 506
52 SUZUKI ADDRESS 110 Scooter 484
53 SYM JET 14 125 CBS Scooter 481
54 KYMCO PEOPLE S 300 Scooter 472
55 KYMCO LIKE 125 Scooter 460
56 KYMCO AGILITY 300I R16 Scooter 448
57 KYMCO G-DINK 300I Scooter 422
58 PEUGEOT TWEET 150 Scooter 407
59 NIU NGT Scooter 378
60 KYMCO AGILITY 125 CARRY Scooter 347
61 PEUGEOT BELVILLE 200 Scooter 342
62 KYMCO AGILITY 200I R16 Scooter 330
63 SYM JOYRIDE 200 S Scooter 324
64 QUADRO QV3 Scooter 314
65 PIAGGIO MP3 350 LT Scooter 311
66 SUZUKI UH200A BURGMAN Scooter 291
67 SUZUKI AN650A BURGMAN Scooter 290
68 KAWASAKI J300 Scooter 289
69 YAMAHA DíELIGHT Scooter 285
70 PIAGGIO VESPA SEIGIORNI 300 Scooter 267
71 SYM CRUISYM 300 Scooter 252
72 KEEWAY LOGIK 125 Scooter 249
73 SYM JOYMAX Z Scooter 221
74 HONDA FORZA 125 ABS Scooter 215
75 OVER B3 125 Scooter 202
76 PIAGGIO VESPA GTS 125 Scooter 179
77 BMW C 650 GT Scooter 177
78 HONDA SUPER CUB C125 Scooter 176
79 KYMCO X-TOWN 125 Scooter 176
80 KYMCO LIKE 150 Scooter 168
81 SYM FIDDLE III 125 Scooter 154
82 SYM MIO 115 CBS Scooter 146
83 LAMBRETTA V125 SPECIAL Scooter 142
84 PIAGGIO MP3 300 LT YOURBAN Scooter 142
85 PEUGEOT BELVILLE 125 Scooter 139
86 PIAGGIO MP3 500 LT ABS Scooter 132
87 SYM JET 14 200 Scooter 131
88 SYM CROX 125 Scooter 116
89 SYM FIDDLE III 200I Scooter 115
90 KEEWAY CITY BLADE 125 Scooter 98
91 KYMCO PEOPLE ONE 150I Scooter 97
92 KYMCO XCITING 400I Scooter 96
93 SYM CITYCOM S.300I Scooter 96
94 SYM JOYRIDE 125 S Scooter 90
95 LAMBRETTA V200 SPECIAL Scooter 82
96 KSR MOTO CLASSIC 125 Scooter 71
97 PEUGEOT METROPOLIS Scooter 63
98 KYMCO PEOPLE GTI 125 Scooter 62
99 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRINT 150 Scooter 61
100 PIAGGIO VESPA ELECTRIC Scooter 59


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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:04 am quote
Attila wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
Attila wrote:
We Italians do not particularly like the Vespa, we recognize that it is an example but finally we guide the practical and flashy things.
Oh I think there are a lot of Italians that love the Vespa.
There are more admirers outside Italy, believe me ...
https://www.quotidianomotori.com/moto/mercato-moto-2019/3/

Piaggio and Vespa actually show quite well on that list.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:10 am quote
I have fallen in love with the style of the new Italia 200.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:11 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
Attila wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
Attila wrote:
We Italians do not particularly like the Vespa, we recognize that it is an example but finally we guide the practical and flashy things.
Oh I think there are a lot of Italians that love the Vespa.
There are more admirers outside Italy, believe me ...
https://www.quotidianomotori.com/moto/mercato-moto-2019/3/

Piaggio and Vespa actually show quite well on that list.
Overall, yes, but they are sold quickly, the dealerships are full of used Piaggio vehicles but despite all the only model that keeps the value high is the Vespa ... the power of the name. Many take the path of the foreign countries of the EU or Eastern Europe.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:15 am quote
WEB-Tech wrote:
I have fallen in love with the style of the new Italia 200.
Your judgments are not conclusive, you are too in love with the italian style; i suspect that if you weren't already happily married you would buy an italian woman (Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!)
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:20 am quote
That is an interesting list, Atilla. Who knew there were even 100 brands/models to pick from? Certainly not the case in the US.

We live in a part of the US where there is no scooter culture. We would regularly get comments about our Honda PCXes; probably because of the "cuteness of the same models" (one red, one black). With the Vespa and the Xmax, we get way fewer comments... and when we do, they are generally along the lines of "Is that a real Vespa?" or "Vespa? Do they still make that?" The average person here has no knowledge or desire regarding motorcycles, much less scooters.

Looking at the sales numbers on your list, it is clear why the scooter manufacturers don't pay much attention to the American market. That said, I am glad Vespa has a presence here.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:35 am quote
Captain Jim wrote:
That is an interesting list, Atilla. Who knew there were even 100 brands/models to pick from? Certainly not the case in the US.

We live in a part of the US where there is no scooter culture. We would regularly get comments about our Honda PCXes; probably because of the "cuteness of the same models" (one red, one black). With the Vespa and the Xmax, we get way fewer comments... and when we do, they are generally along the lines of "Is that a real Vespa?" or "Vespa? Do they still make that?" The average person here has no knowledge or desire regarding motorcycles, much less scooters.

Looking at the sales numbers on your list, it is clear why the scooter manufacturers don't pay much attention to the American market. That said, I am glad Vespa has a presence here.
Well put and agreed.

Face it Vespas are NOT inexpensive so will never be at the top of a list. Piaggio is I believe happy to keep them in their niche where they belong as a prestige vehicle. I believe Attila is just looking at sales numbers and not how Italians as a whole "feel" about Vespa. I would think many are proud of the brand the fact that it is known world wide as a classic scooter. Living in Toronto I think we have a skewed view as there are SO many Vespas here in the downtown core. IN the warmer seasons you are almost guaranteed to see one every few minutes ride by and often you'll just see a whole group of them parked next to each other. Partially this is obviously the result of us having a Piaggio dealership but it's also that Toronto is an expensive city to live in so the price is less of an issue as everything costs more.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:36 am quote
... well ... there is a reason why it all originated here ... in this part of Europe; the ancient Romans invented the modern chariot by perfecting the Egyptian chariot that derived from the Hittite.
Here Barsanti and Matteucci invented and patented the first internal combustion engine (1853, 14 years before the German Otto), it is history:
http://www.ansa.it/canale_motori/notizie/componentie_tech/2019/05/18/eugenio-barsanti-e-felice-matteucci-inventori-motore-scoppio_1f7a55d1-54e2-421a-8367-a95fdf412684.html
If you translate the text of the news you will find it fascinating ...
Returning to Topic I say that there is always a first motor love, in truth mine dates back to when I was 12 years old, an uncle of mine used to go from his farm to the fields an old Vespa from the 50s. And I learned with that Vespa ... but I liked motorcycles and then I never bought a scooter until my brother bought a PX 125 in 1978, he only used it three years and then he buys the car ... damn car. How many of us have stopped dreaming about two wheels because of the car?
Yes Harbinger, when I make my comments are never controversial, they only serve to clarify how the vision of a topic must be global to have the maximum understanding of its meaning ...
I also want you all to know that over the years I have been part (and today for many of them it is still so) of 360 į study and interest groups ... archeology, photography, vintage vehicles, study of the events of the historical period of my area between the 20s and the 50s with particular interest in the period 1930-1945 but referring to technologies and architecture (Fud knows what I'm talking about) ... no politics, only cultural. The Via Appia is a few kilometers from my home and was used for speed record attempts:

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Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:10 am quote
Honda Helix all day long. Runner up is Yamaha Zuma 2 strokes, pre-bug and bug-eye versions. The Helix took me everywhere while rarely giving me any grief. Zuma's will frustrate me to no end when modded but they are so much fun. And I see my Liberty just missed the top 20 on Attila's list!
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:23 am quote
sc00ter wrote:
Honda Helix all day long. Runner up is Yamaha Zuma 2 strokes, pre-bug and bug-eye versions. The Helix took me everywhere while rarely giving me any grief. Zuma's will frustrate me to no end when modded but they are so much fun. And I see my Liberty just missed the top 20 on Attila's list!
Ha! Yeah I remember the Helix and I can see one having a thing for them. Apparently they are still in production in Japan?
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:37 am quote
My GTS for sure. Love looking at it, and have to confess one of the reasons I like riding with other Vespas is getting to see them on the move.

My BV does have a special place in my heart though....the lower exhaust rumble, the perkier performance....yeah, she's not loved quite as much, but still loved.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:59 am quote
My first love (PTW) was not a Vespa. It was 1976, I was 14 years old and I worked at a bike shop (just cleaning up and simple mechanical stuff at that age). The owner sold the shop to a new guy. On the day he told the staff the shop was sold, the new owner stopped in to meet people and start the transition. He rolled up on a 1949 Harley-Davidson chopper (Easy Rider style). My jaw hit the floor. That old greasy, grimy chopper was perfect. It was my first PTW love and it still is. I had the opportunity to buy that old chopper in 2003. I jumped on it and have put over 140k miles on the old girl in the 16 years Iíve owned her. I took her out for a ride yesterday. This PTW is family and is one of the only personal possessions in our family trust that has specific instructions for what should happen upon my death 😂
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:57 am quote
Looking at Atilla's list 6 of the top 10 are Italian designed scooters. Honda employed Italian designers to come up with the SH. Though to be honest it looks almost like a clone of the BV. They are very easy to confuse in a quick glance. With the exception of the Forza all of the top 10 have 14-17" wheels. Even the Forza with 13" is larger than the Vespa. Smaller scooters are also favored in the EU due to licensing laws and dense urban areas.

In fact 14 of the top 20 are either Piaggio/Vespa or similarly styled scoots like the Kymco People. That certainly argues in favor of Italian styling being most popular. I never could understand the appeal of big maxi scooters in the city.

I'm curious about the different Liberty models. The 125 vs 150 is explained by licensing categories but ABS vs Corporate. I'm used to seeing all models lumped together as merely different option categories. So that would put it at 10,400 putting it second to the Honda SH 125-150 which certainly supports the styling aspect. Without doing the math it appears that taking into account all models Honda followed by Piaggio would be the top two selling scooters in Italy even keeping the Vespa line out of the equation.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:07 pm quote
An "image" of a motorcycle than has stayed in my head through the years is this.

I have never owned one, but I knew a guy who did.

So, a motorcycle.... that is a 1972/1973 Yamaha XS2 to me. In this particular colour.

The looks, the sound... the power (at the time)... it was even reasonable to ride

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Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:21 pm quote
... inspired by the Triumph ...
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:21 pm quote
Hard Choice - Favorite Scooter
I love my Vespa GTS300. My favorite ride is still the Suzuki Burgman 400AN
The foot forward riding position comfort, the wind protection.

Bob Copeland
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48,000 miles on this Beauty

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Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:33 pm quote
Harbinger wrote:
Piaggio and Vespa actually show quite well on that list.
And I notice that the 300 GTS is the most popular model Vespa in Italy. Makes sense to me.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:37 pm quote
My current PX. I don't plan on parting with it anytime soon.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:20 pm quote
breaknwind wrote:
My SH150i.
What's a good price for these? There's one for sale I'm eyeing.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:29 pm quote
Big Daddy SnakeOiler wrote:
breaknwind wrote:
My SH150i.
What's a good price for these? There's one for sale I'm eyeing.
$1200-$1500 is the most I'd pay for one with less than 10,000 miles.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:43 pm quote
Easy one for me. My BV200 in gloss black. Awesome machine. Every time I ride it it brings a smile to my face. Lately I've been thinking how sad it will be when it either dies or parts become tough to get. It's got north of 35,000 miles on it now so I should have a few more good years with it. The BV350 will be the natural replacement. I also have a Honda Reflex that is 100% bullet proof but the riding position is weird. Too laid out... I like (as does my back) the upright riding position of the BV series.

I'll stick with the Italians when it comes to scooters.

Bob
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:45 pm quote
Love my Aprilia Scarabeo 150's and the 500ie's, and my Buddy !25.

And my old Triumph cycles too.

Wish I had never sold my 1957 Cushman Eagle though

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Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:02 pm quote
Omg this is gorgeous

[quote="RRider"]An "image" of a motorcycle than has stayed in my head through the years is this.

I have never owned one, but I knew a guy who did.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:22 pm quote
I really like my GTS250, but the one I wish I had now is my '06 SYM HD200. I loved that scoot.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:15 pm quote
For me, its seeing any Vespa. I grew up seeing them, a common path for my family was right by two of the prior locations of Vespa Motorsports here in San Diego. Every time I see one on the road or parked, I just feel a little bit of happiness, even on bad days.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:21 pm quote
Belkwinith wrote:
We all have our first loves...thereís something about them. For me itís the BVís. Vespas are cool... but Every time I see a BV scooter, I want one. I know itís not a perfect ride, (what ride is), but dang, some of the new ones look so super sweet.

How about you. What particular brand of vehicle do you love, no matter what.
My white 2013 946 with oem red saddle. Owned it for over 6 years still smitten my it.

SDG
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Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:01 am quote
SDG wrote:
Belkwinith wrote:
We all have our first loves...thereís something about them. For me itís the BVís. Vespas are cool... but Every time I see a BV scooter, I want one. I know itís not a perfect ride, (what ride is), but dang, some of the new ones look so super sweet.

How about you. What particular brand of vehicle do you love, no matter what.
My white 2013 946 with oem red saddle. Owned it for over 6 years still smitten my it.

SDG
.... are you one of those lucky neoclassical Vespa fans they talked about in another topic?
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Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:37 am quote
Boing boing
Attila wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
Attila wrote:
We Italians do not particularly like the Vespa, we recognize that it is an example but finally we guide the practical and flashy things.
Oh I think there are a lot of Italians that love the Vespa.
There are more admirers outside Italy, believe me ...
https://www.quotidianomotori.com/moto/mercato-moto-2019/3/

The Top 100 scooter ranking
# Brand Model Segment Tot. 2019
1 HONDA ITALIA SH 125 Scooter 10008
2 HONDA ITALIA SH 150 Scooter 8997
3 HONDA ITALIA SH 300 Scooter 8673
4 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 300 ABS Scooter 8212
5 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 125 ABS Scooter 5910

6 KYMCO AGILITY 125 R16 Scooter 5162
7 YAMAHA XMAX 300 Scooter 4609
8 HONDA X-ADV 750 Scooter 4263
9 HONDA FORZA 300 Scooter 4209
10 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 350 Scooter 3825
11 PIAGGIO VESPA GTS 300 Scooter 3495
12 PIAGGIO MEDLEY 125 Scooter 3070

13 YAMAHA TMAX Scooter 2881
14 SYM SYMPHONY 125 S Scooter 2872
15 KYMCO PEOPLE S 150 Scooter 2846

16 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRING 125 Scooter 2725
43 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRING 150 Scooter 720
46 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRINT 125 Scooter 582
99 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRINT 150 Scooter 61

Vespa Sprint/Spring 125/150 = 4088

What's a spring?
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Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:33 am quote
Old smallframes w/ 4 speed 125 power.
They were cheap enough, so I'm lucky to have one all three places I go.
I can't not love these nimble little contraptions!

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Ossessionato
Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956 - Moto Guzzi Airone 250 Sport 1951
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 2570
Location: Latina (Italy)
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:49 am quote
... if I think that up to twenty years ago, here in Italy there were those who threw old Vespa in the rubbish bins, how many I have seen thrown into the water channels ... How strange is the "consumer society".
Veni, Vidi, Posti
63 GS160 / GT60 (X2)/ ET4 (X2)/ ET2/ 78 P200/ 67 Sprint/ 09 GTS/ 03 Ruckus/ 13 946/ 16 Prima 70/ 15 Sprint
Joined: 07 Oct 2006
Posts: 6385
Location: Sherman Oaks
Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:21 am quote
Attila wrote:
SDG wrote:
Belkwinith wrote:
We all have our first loves...thereís something about them. For me itís the BVís. Vespas are cool... but Every time I see a BV scooter, I want one. I know itís not a perfect ride, (what ride is), but dang, some of the new ones look so super sweet.

How about you. What particular brand of vehicle do you love, no matter what.
My white 2013 946 with oem red saddle. Owned it for over 6 years still smitten my it.

SDG
.... are you one of those lucky neoclassical Vespa fans they talked about in another topic?
No Iím just a guy that was asked a simple question and gave an honest answer. Iím not really that complicated.

SDG
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Lx 50 4T, GTS 250, S 150 (Missing in KS), Something Chinese
Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Posts: 7732
Location: KS USA
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:19 am quote
For me it's whatever brand of used Vespa I can afford.
Molto Verboso
2013 Vespa 300 Super, 2007 Burgman 400
Joined: 30 Mar 2014
Posts: 1607
Location: Minneapolis USA
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:38 am quote
Scarabeo 150 and 500ie
Fried Okra,

When I started riding again on 2004, my first scoot was the Scarabeo 150.
Great machine - larger wheels - easily freeway capable. In 2007,I went
to trade the 150 in on the new design Scarabeo 500. They were sold out and I could not get one. I bought the 2007 Suzuki Burgman 400AN that was at the dealer. But for circumstance, I probably would still be riding the 500.

Bob Copeland
Minnesota

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I ordered the tall windshield - took one year to get it due to Aprilia and Vespa doing something with parts.

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