250 & 400 body style - lower leg wind deflector ideas?
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:18 pm quote
I want to expand my winter wind buble on my 400.
Givi Airflow is awesome up top, but I get cold wind coming around on my lower legs.

Zero interest in using one of those Euro fully attached blanket things however.

So I'm thinking on the small flat edge area (flat part that faces rearwards, about 1" wide) on the lower fairing to add high strength 3M Velcro and then cut kydex pieces to create more wind block.

They will thus go straight out from the fairing and make it wider.
Not very aero but I hope effective?
Comes off easy enough in the warm months.

Any other thoughts or ideas?
I looked and did not see any factory or aftermarket add on lower plastics available like on other scooters & motos.
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Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:23 pm quote
yeah kinda like the defectors used on gold wings. if you make them right where they are adjustable you could leave them year round.
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Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:43 am quote
Use Heated Clothing...

MP3 400/500 can handle the Amperage Draw with no problem.
MP3 250, you will have to run Dual Batteries to increase the Amperage.

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Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:21 am quote
In the cold, I get air coming around behind my knees and under my thighs. Don't know if deflectors are going to solve that. Might just create more turbulence.

I'm actually intrigued by the Turcano lap blanket concept. If only they weren't so expensive.

Suppose some heavy coveralls or bibs would work just as well.
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:14 pm quote
pmatulew wrote:
In the cold, I get air coming around behind my knees and under my thighs. Don't know if deflectors are going to solve that. Might just create more turbulence.

I'm actually intrigued by the Turcano lap blanket concept. If only they weren't so expensive.

Suppose some heavy coveralls or bibs would work just as well.
The scooter leg aprons are only around $150 and roll up when not needed so you have it with you all winter.
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:35 pm quote
I have these also good when rains https://www.tucanourbano.com/en/pp/leg-covers-to-wear-black-r093-65832
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Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:16 am quote
The current generation MP3 are prewired to use the (optional) Piaggio accessory heated leg cover.

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2016 BV350
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:03 pm quote
pmatulew wrote:
In the cold, I get air coming around behind my knees and under my thighs. Don't know if deflectors are going to solve that. Might just create more turbulence.

I'm actually intrigued by the Turcano lap blanket concept. If only they weren't so expensive.

Suppose some heavy coveralls or bibs would work just as well.
Thanks.

Yep it's that cold air down there on my legs.
My upper body catches no wind and thus not cold like that.


I'm hoping to create more fairing width effectively.
There are nice flat surfaces I can use industrial velcro and attach moldable kydex.

If I mount to the rear facing flat surfaces it will straight outwards.
Or I can bend it and angle it out at 45 degrees.
This might be best vs straight out.
As stated Wings and other touring bikes have these added.

If I mount to the side facing surface, I would then need to heat bend the kydex out at 45 degrees, same affect.

Either way I could easily remove these pieces when it warms up in the spring. I'm only running in town errands or short rides in.thr winter. Real nasty and I'm in my car. Supper nice and I'm on my BV350 or motos.

If often quicker errands so I'd just like wind block vs changing too much. I have full on Klim gear, Goretex boots and gloves and a battery powered heated vest and all that but it's about quick and dirty. My MP3 has the best wind block as is, I jump on and do an errand alot. Up top a puffer, gloves and heated grips keep me warm. Maybe I'm being lazy by not changing my pants...

I just don't jive with those wind blankets, but I can see their effectiveness if the MP3 is your only ride in any weather and you have distance to go.
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:06 pm quote
I'll post a pic when I mount these winglets and see.

Funny thing a pre shaped stick on wind extender is available for other scooter models. Seems I need to build my own here or every just uses a blanket thing
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:08 pm quote
Thanks for all the feedback guys!
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:11 pm quote
pmatulew wrote:
In the cold, I get air coming around behind my knees and under my thighs. Don't know if deflectors are going to solve that. Might just create more turbulence.

I'm actually intrigued by the Turcano lap blanket concept. If only they weren't so expensive.

Suppose some heavy coveralls or bibs would work just as well.
I can always bust out my quilted Carharts and laugh at the cold too.
Or put on some Smartwool base layers.
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Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:22 pm quote
Gasmk1 wrote:
I looked at those some more.
Good price and looks fast on and off, which I'm looking for ease and speed. I may think about those.

How do you figure out sizing???
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