Next Project...... but what is it??
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Hooked
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Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:57 am quote
My next project that should keep me occupied this year now the Mk1 T5 has been completed -- (mechanically restored and bodywork left as delivered, bumps and scrapes galore

this one i will do the same. I currently like to keep them battle scared and rough around the edges, but mechanically perfect.

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Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
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Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:35 am quote
Why do people spray paint these assembled? Looks like the bodywork is in good shape just have to clean up the painted parts, that aren't supposed to be painted. I'd like to find a model with handlebars some day.
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Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:47 am quote
Lovely.

Keep us updated with pics and such on the regular.
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
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Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:59 am quote
Vespa 150 Struzzo! Highly collectable. Gongrats!

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Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:08 am quote
Super into this! I love it.

Keep us posted!

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Molto Verboso
79 P200E, 62 Allstate, 2008 Stella
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Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:06 am quote
Sweet! The fender crest is cool. This is one thread I'll definitely be watching!
Ossessionato
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
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Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:43 am quote
Love these models - perhaps the most beautiful of the body styles.
Will enjoy watching updates on this one.
Addicted
2010 S50 Modified "Punkin"; 2003 ET4 Malossi 187 "ISO"
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Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:07 am quote
Greetings:

Big Vespa Book I got for Christmas makes it pretty easy to study the subtle differences in all these very similar-looking vintage Vespas. Apparently sold alongside the 1955-later GS 150 model which was distinguished by a taller side panel and full handlebar covers. According to Sarti, the first series 150 had no battery. Second series had one located below left side panel.

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Hooked
P Series / Li / LML / Motobi
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Location: UK - 3rd Rock From the Sun
Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:31 am quote
Wheelman, please could you have a good look through the book you have?

The frame on this one seems to have some rounded ridges, i just wondered if these were someone's additions or they are as intended. i have seen them on a scooter before and i cant for the life of me remember where and which model.


Thanks everyone for the positive vibes- i will definitely keep this post updated. it will be a meandering build as and when i get the impetus to actually do some theraputic fiddling.
Wheelman-111 wrote:
Greetings:

Big Vespa Book I got for Christmas makes it pretty easy to study the subtle differences in all these very similar-looking vintage Vespas. Apparently sold alongside the 1955-later GS 150 model which was distinguished by a taller side panel and full handlebar covers. According to Sarti, the first series 150 had no battery. Second series had one located below left side panel.
Hooked
1964 V90, 1974 Rally 210, 1974 Primavera 135, 1974 Ciao, 1977 Rally 200, 1982 Bajaj Gopher RE (3 Wheeler)
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Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:54 am quote
Cool project! Wheelman what book is that? Thanks!
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2010 S50 Modified "Punkin"; 2003 ET4 Malossi 187 "ISO"
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Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:09 am quote
Greetings:

It's called "Vespa All the Models" by Giorgio Sarti. Ms. Wheel-person scored the last one on Amazon just before Christmas, chronicled HERE. GR, if you'll take some pics of the details you're questioning, I'll do my best to snap a few in the book to compare. Sorry there's only the one page concerning the mid-50s VLT1 VLT2 and VLT3 I suspect yours to be. Updated 1957 VB1T and mid-'55 (VS1T)GS models differed considerably from the pics you posted. I'd be willing to bet there's expertise in this Forum far exceeding mine.
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Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:37 pm quote
According to the Vespa Tecnica book, it looks like a 1947-48-49, rod model, due to the crease running just under the tank/seat on either side.
The vin number would help narrow it down.
if the vin starts with V98 its 1946-47
V1t-V5t its 1948-50
The rod gear change was was a beast to set up so it functioned correctly...
my bet is the front end was changed with an early 50s fork and headset.
Congrats, that is quite the find!!!

Also looks like the motor side cowl is early 50s also
Hooked
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Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:48 pm quote
This is the area i am wondering about, it seems to have a molded shape in the frame which the ones in your excellent book and the one posted above by a VERY knowledgeable forum member also doesn't have?
Wheelman-111 wrote:
Greetings:

It's called "Vespa All the Models" by Giorgio Sarti. Ms. Wheel-person scored the last one on Amazon just before Christmas, chronicled HERE. GR, if you'll take some pics of the details you're questioning, I'll do my best to snap a few in the book to compare. Sorry there's only the one page concerning the mid-50s VLT1 VLT2 and VLT3 I suspect yours to be. Updated 1957 VB1T and mid-'55 (VS1T)GS models differed considerably from the pics you posted. I'd be willing to bet there's expertise in this Forum far exceeding mine.


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Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
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Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:07 pm quote
Have you checked the VIN?? The "lines" were present on the early Faro Basso models. Can't recall if the VL1 "Struzzo" had them...
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Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:13 pm quote
All the models in my previous post have that molded into the frame. if you have the frame #, I can tell you what the tecnica book says it is, just need the first 3 digits.
I'm curious too
Ossessionato
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Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:44 pm quote
Beautiful frame! I would love to have one of these some day!
Hooked
'81 50 special,'57 GS150 VS3,'59 152L2,'60 SII Li150
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:04 am quote
Hello,

Those ridges on the frame, and the small fuel tank make it pre 1954. If there is no frame number on the lip of the carb door, it many be a Douglas. Though the headlight diameter suggests probably a European model Piaggio, Acma, Motovespa, or even Hoffmann. Most models with those style frame have engine side panels with the area in front of the flywheel cut out. Google some pics of Douglas model G or GL2, or Motovespa 125n. The frame at least is pre VL1. A frame number should solve the mystery if you can find one.

Hope that's of some help.
Hooked
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:24 pm quote
It's a moto vespa 125N

Mystery solved....

Thanks all for the input... makes me want to turn it into a low light homage now I know. 😁
Hooked
'81 50 special,'57 GS150 VS3,'59 152L2,'60 SII Li150
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Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:09 pm quote
I thought so too. The Motovespa frame had those ridges well into the mid 50's. With those side panels and handlebars. it does look like a 125n of around then. Found a frame number yet?
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