'80 P200E Oil Problem... HELP!!!
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1980 Vespa P200E
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:49 pm quote
Hi everyone, my name's Zach. I own a 1980 Vespa P200E. I love my scooter, but here recently it's been sitting for a little bit and it would leave oil marks where it was parked, the engine has a lot of oil buildup on it. Idk what it could be that's leaking to make it do so. I'm just gonna make an assumption that's it's my oil reservoir that's leaking. But, I'm not sure. Could someone please help me?
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:02 pm quote
could be from loads of places mate. clean the gunk off. then watch for the new oil and you will have a better idea of where it's leaking from
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:10 pm quote
Thanks, I cleaned the oil off, and it's already back. But it's kinda everywhere
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:01 pm quote
2 stroke oil or gear oil?
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:09 pm quote
I just looked, and it is shaded blue, so that woul be a clear indicator of 2-stroke oil
Molto Verboso
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:25 pm quote
Is it on your floorboards? Both sides? Or, is it on the engine? Is it on the front of the engine or the back? Is it dripping on the exhaust pipe in the front, or is it dripping from the very underside of your motor?

Did you check the oil line where it comes out of the frame to where it connects to the carburetor box? Did you make sure it's still connected and there are no signs of the leak at that point?

You seem to be saying it is surely not your gear oil. Are you positive about that?
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:35 pm quote
Ok, it on the back of The engine, it builds up along the back, and drips off my spring and the bottom of the engine, I'm almost positive it's 2-stroke oil cus I've done a lot of work with the stuff and it looked identical. Havet checked seals because air intake hose is in the way
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:15 pm quote
If it is dripping off the bottom of the shock... Is the spring really wet with oil? If so, your shock might have blown the seal in it and the oil inside is squishing out when it compresses.
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:21 pm quote
No, it's not the shock, it's on everything else around it. So, it's coming from above the shock, and it's just going down the shock
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:01 pm quote
A 2T oil leak inside the carb box will drip out through the idle screw opening at the bottom rear of the carb box and onto the rear of the engine.

It could be a leak from the carb gasket. Remove the carb box cover and air filter. Look at the very rear of the carb box. If oil is puddled there, either the carb is loose or the gasket is leaking.

While you are in there, also make sure the autolube feed pipe and pump assembly are not leaking.
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:09 pm quote
Will do, thanks!
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:46 am quote
SkaterZ wrote:
No, it's not the shock, it's on everything else around it. So, it's coming from above the shock, and it's just going down the shock
There is nothing above the shock. And there isn't any way for 2T oil to spray out the carburetor box and onto the shock.
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:31 am quote
How about some photos?
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:02 am quote
I want to put some up, I don't know how[/img]
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:33 am quote
SkaterZ wrote:
I want to put some up, I don't know how[/img]
coupla ways to do it. The easiest is to use the "add attachment" button on the page where you type your post.

If you're on a mobile device, look at the top of this thread. on the right you will see a button with an @ on it. Click that and follow the simple instructions.

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photos.
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:45 am quote
I just sent the E-Mail with the photo
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:50 am quote
This is the back of my Engine, yesterday I wiped it all off. I took off the top of my Carb so that you could kinda see it better, slightly. The oil would run down here and drip off the bottom of my engine.



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Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:50 am quote
Zach

Did you look to see if there was oil in the carb box?
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:57 am quote
I looked, it wasn't built up in the bottom of the carb box I don't believe so no
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:15 pm quote
Welcome to the world of 2 T Vespa engines ..They all look like that after a while..
Next time you take your carb. out to clean it change out the all the paper gaskets, carb to box, box to engine and get a torque wrench and tighten your carm sleeve nut to 14lb.
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1980 Vespa P200E
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:20 pm quote
Ok, will do. Thanks!

Ohh, and quick question, I know it's off topic but, do any of you know if it's a better idea to buy or make footpegs for a passenger? Because my girl comes back from camp late Thursday night and I wanna take her out on a ride and she can't really fit her feet on the floor board while my feet are there. So, I'd like to get some footpegs, would it be a bad idea to just make some cheap ones now for thursday? Cus I'm good with my hands and all, just wondered if I'd be that difficult to do so
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:46 pm quote
Scoots west has the cupprini fold out pegs that look and work great.
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Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:36 pm quote
I just put these on mine- let me know if you want to see a picture of them installed.
http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_pageCCS=t#page=/item_details/P-PX-Stella-Fold-Up-Foot-Pegs-VIGANO/1843
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Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:57 pm quote
Ya mine used to leak like that from under the carb box, changing the gaskets and making sure sleeve nuts are torqued equally to 14 pounds helps. I just switched to premix but even on premix there is always crap all over it, it will always look like that no matter what because the crank case vents above the clutch and shit dribbles all over and then road dirt gets stuck to it. It's not really a problem but if you really wanted to do something about it you could probly just get some tubing and put over the vent so it will drip on to the road instead of all over the engine.
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P200E
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:22 am quote
Oil leak
On my bike there is 2T oil coming off the carb box, as mentioned earlier with new carb gaskets it can be fixed.But but also there is oil on the running board and on the top of the exhaust. I assume it comes from the oil reservoir. I'm correct?
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:36 am quote
Yes, oil on the running board suggests a leak from the reservoir. Check the gaskets and sight glass and make sure the oil line is clamped securely.
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:59 pm quote
Thanks
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