Good deal or no? 1974 primavera 125
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:37 pm quote
I have the opportunity to get my first Vespa. It's a 1974 primavera with 293 original miles. It has a new fuel line and new battery, otherwise it's completely original. Runs well but has some body damage as seen in pictures. Listed at $2,100 and he's interested in my $1,500 offer. Please let me know any thoughts ASAP! It would be used primarily as a weekend cruiser and occasional ride to school (a mile away tops).

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Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:46 pm quote
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:51 pm quote
Also, any information on this vespa would be appreciated. Top comfortable speed? (speed isn't really a priority but I would like to know.) I'm 220 lbs, 6'5", any concerns? thanks!
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:51 pm quote
very nice scoot. how much its worth will depend where your based though
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:52 pm quote
jackson85 wrote:
very nice scoot. how much its worth will depend where your based though
Northern California
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:23 pm quote
Any more thoughts? Good buy?
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:27 pm quote
If the low miles are indeed original, I'd say so... if the body hadn't been smushed I'd snatch it right quick...
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:29 pm quote
Vader19 wrote:
If the low miles are indeed original, I'd say so... if the body hadn't been smushed I'd snatch it right quick...
Any way to know if the miles are indeed original? Also, any idea what it would cost to have body work/ possible full paint done?
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:37 pm quote
I don't know, are you buying from the original owner? That'd be great and if you trust them maybe it is low miles... someone got it, dumped it and there it sat... that's a good score... *maybe some small frame specialist here knows if that's the exact correct speedo... I don't know...
Paint & body, anywhere from say 600 to a couple grand (depending on who and quality) too bad about the fender 'cause it looks cool.. If you could have the fender and legshield done and color matched so you didn't have to do the whole scoot, that'd be cool. in my O.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:07 pm quote
Vader took the words out of my mouth. just get it you touched up and your laughing. 1500 is more than I would pay to be honest
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:11 pm quote
abaxter0 wrote:
Also, any information on this vespa would be appreciated. Top comfortable speed? (speed isn't really a priority but I would like to know.) I'm 220 lbs, 6'5"any concerns? thanks!
you are talking about a smallframe here.

at 6'5" 220lbs you might consider something larger. i'm a foot shorther that you and feel uncomfortable on my primavera after 3 minutes.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:18 pm quote
that has been in a significant front end collision. and I highly doubt that speedo faceplate is original. it just looks too good. the brake lense is missing. and would guess its gonna needs engine work sooner rather than later.

still, that model is super cool looking. dont quote me but, I dont think you get parts for it easily. did they sell many Primaveras in the US?

I would not spend more than $1700 for it. what about those tires? tires and tubes will run you over a Hundy for the good stuff.

let us know what ya do.
we love the pics
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:34 pm quote
The front end was definately 'kissed'. I'd verify the distance from the seat to the headset before purchasing.




As a general rule, if something is smashed/crashed/hit I avoid it, but that is a personal thing. Also, not to say that something that was not smashed/crashed/hit is going to be flawless.

Good luck with your decision. The bike does look cool as hell. I believe my wife's grandfather has one overseas just like that, minus the signals.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:28 pm quote
$1500 is probably about right if it's a solid runner and needs nothing, the body is a bit dinged up but the engine looks clean. Missing the rear taillight cover. Make sure all the electronics work including blinkers.

Does the speedo/odometer work? The engine and battery compartment look very clean so the miles could be right. Never know if the person crashed it then never rode again.

Comfortable topspeed is 45ish topping out at 50-ish.
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:32 pm quote
Current title and it's worth $1500.
nothing at all
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Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:14 pm quote
The speedo is correct and the floorboards look frikkin great. So does the battery compartment. Wrong battery but no Biggy.

Get on it and do about 20 and let go of the bars, if she goes straight then your in.

The 125 primies are going up in value and that is my favorite color.

I do notice the rims are odd. One side is chrome? Maybe it's my laptop screen.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:56 am quote
I saw this bike up for sale on CL in SF. I would get a mechanic to go over it and see what it needs before you buy.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:18 am quote
OP, you're too big for a smallframe. Plus the legshield and fender on that primi are beat to shit. If I were you, I'd wait for a good P Series or Rally to come available.

Best!
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:58 am quote
I'm an inch shorter and 50 pounds lighter and I won't fit on a small frame. I do not suggest this bike for someone over six foot tall. Find a P series, you'll be much more comfortable.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:59 am quote
293 original miles

I would gather to say that that speedo has been replaced.....

how'd the paint get all scratched to hell and back around the speedo face? prolly prying out the busted one....
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:05 am quote
Brodyfrompa wrote:
293 original miles
Or the cable broke after 293 miles.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:44 pm quote
2-Smoke wrote:
OP, you're too big for a smallframe.
i was thinking the same thing.

you might as well buy a thong with 2stroke motor attached, but hey - whatever floats your boat.

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Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:47 pm quote
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Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:28 am quote
I test rode a smallie at 5'11", 205lbs, and I looked like a circus bear on a bicycle. You're too big for this bike, bro.
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Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:00 am quote
Size really does matter when it comes to riding a small frame..i am 5.10 11 stone and its about right for me if you are over 6ft you aint going to be comfortable riding this.
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Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:59 am quote
If a smallie's what you're after here's a nice et3 with a bunch of goodies on it
and NOT all smashed up for $2100 obo
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/mcy/3205715451.html
you'd have to make a little road trip up to oregon, but it's not that far...
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Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:06 pm quote
Or here's a Rally 200 for $2200 right in SF...
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/mcy/3203655834.html
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:03 am quote
74 Vespa
I actually bought this Vespa for $1300. The fender is kind of messed up but that can be repaired with a bit of work. The more vexing problem is the horn mounting that was damaged by whatever accident messed up the fender, as it will take a great deal of tender bodywork to make it look right, but that can be done as well. It does run well with plenty of power, everything functions well. I had one of these in 1975 and am very familiar with the model and kind of know what to expect. So far so good.
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:56 am quote
Is that a primavera "US style"?
Nothing like the ones i've seen before here in the UK/Europe.
Looks more like a 100 sport.

Pisc here of the primavera i know.



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Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:20 pm quote
nebulae wrote:
Is that a primavera "US style"?
Nothing like the ones i've seen before here in the UK/Europe.
Looks more like a 100 sport.

Pisc here of the primavera i know.

Yep that's the US version with all of the required DOT (Dept of Transportation) additions, tractor style brake light, turn signals, etc.
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:34 pm quote
astromags wrote:
nebulae wrote:
Is that a primavera "US style"?
Nothing like the ones i've seen before here in the UK/Europe.
Looks more like a 100 sport.

Pisc here of the primavera i know.

Yep that's the US version with all of the required DOT (Dept of Transportation) additions, tractor style brake light, turn signals, etc.
Yuch . . .
Why did/does the US govt feel the need to mess about with Piaggios machines when the rest of the world accept them as is?
Are they trying to prove a point?
I can understand other countries having variations in the Vespa range & styling because they manufacture them there (spain, india, mexico etc), but the US only import the bloody things.
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:14 pm quote
That front end looks fooked to me. Fork probably needs to be replaced (I had to replace mine as it was bent in two different directions!).
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