Vespa GTR 350 will arrive in 2014
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:08 am quote
http://www.vespagt.it/2012/10/03/vespa-350-riepilogo-ipotesi-e-indiscrezioni/
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Despite having a lump sum at the last show in Cologne, where he was waiting along with the already announced Aprilia Caponord 1200 and Moto Guzzi California 1400 and not submitted to the German event, the Vespa 350 is in the pipeline. In fact, should - and the conditional is a must - to be unveiled at the Milan Show, scheduled for next November, while marketing will start during the next spring.

However, it may be submitted directly to the next year, by the end of June, with an event dedicated as happened with the previous GT, GTS and GTS Super 250ie engine with the engine 300i. In the meantime, we should summarize the assumptions and rumors of future Vespa 350ie with the unit from 33 hp.


Although the current 'Big Shell' may adopt the new engine line Quasar, in the longer of only 6 mm compared to the 300 engine, the Vespa 350 is totally new. It should be marketed as GTS Rally, but the premium brand of Pontedera could opt for the initials GTR. In addition, the range of the new Vespa GT 500 should also include the version that will debut later.

The new 'Big Shell', then, should take the front tires from 13 inches sizes 120/70 and rear 12 inches sizes 140/70. Among the hypotheses include availability of a sequential gearbox as an option and CBS combined braking system for the standard version, while the version that is top of the range will certainly propose the ABS system with ASR traction control.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:34 am quote
All right!
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:52 am quote
Interesting, this new Vespa will be anxiously awaited by many here.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:56 am quote
Hopefully these new Vepas won't be priced in this:

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Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:02 am quote
And please bring ABS to the US market!!!
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:36 am quote
oh...boy.

ohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboy

I want to believe. In this and the PX Automatica 200.

I know our market is NOTHING to Piaggio, but HOT DAMN I loves me some consumer choice!

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Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:53 am quote
Show in Germany is this week----wonder if there?
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:21 am quote
Midnight Rider wrote:
And please bring ABS to the US market!!!
I second that.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:32 am quote
I would buy one, buy they have to fix the front end geometry to cure the wobble.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:53 am quote
JLB wrote:
I would buy one, buy they have to fix the front end geometry to cure the wobble.
I strongly suspect that the wobble problem has a lot to do with the one-sided suspension combined with the extra weight and larger tires/wheels on the large frame Vespas. I have absolutely no scientific proof for my theory but the problem doesn't exist with the smaller scooters that have less weight and smaller tires/wheels. I've also never seen a one-sided fork on a motorcycle and most are heavier than the large frame Vespas that weigh around 325 pounds.

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Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:04 am quote
I want one!
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:19 am quote
Article states 33 H.P. That's a lot of H.P. I could get in trouble with that. My first car only had 40 H.P. (used 1958 VW).
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:23 am quote
While I have no real desire for anything bigger than my GTV 250, I will be following this rumor/information with great interest.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:28 am quote
Lets park a pic of the Vespa 350 engine/tranny right here.

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Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:34 am quote
About the title: What does the R in GTR would stand for?
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:36 am quote


Now I can't make fun of all those Apple fanboys and fangirls who were waiting for the iphone5.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:37 am quote
Max6200 wrote:
About the title: What does the R in GTR would stand for?
I think the article said "Rally"
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:37 am quote
Max6200 wrote:
About the title: What does the R in GTR would stand for?
Rally.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:39 am quote
That's no great surprise, but is good news to see some more official confirmation.

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Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:42 am quote
ravenlore wrote:
Max6200 wrote:
About the title: What does the R in GTR would stand for?
I think the article said "Rally"
Thanks.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:36 am quote
Max6200 wrote:
About the title: What does the R in GTR would stand for?
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:47 am quote
Max6200 wrote:
ravenlore wrote:
Max6200 wrote:
About the title: What does the R in GTR would stand for?
I think the article said "Rally"
Thanks.
I think the article has some mistakes, the “R” obviously stands for RACE

33 HP, 350CC.....race is the only answer!!!
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:57 am quote
john grinsel wrote:
Show in Germany is this week----wonder if there?
I'm there, flyng out to Cologne tomorrow, so I'll keep y'all updated.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:07 am quote
DougL wrote:
john grinsel wrote:
Show in Germany is this week----wonder if there?
I'm there, flyng out to Cologne tomorrow, so I'll keep y'all updated.
Pictures... Please...
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:09 am quote
Of course. The trusty Canon S95 will be in tow!
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:19 am quote
I would personally consider the R to stand for RRRRRRRMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!, regardless of what the official meaning is.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:23 am quote
This is Very Exciting !
But...
I want to see a New MP3/350 or Larger shipped to the USA.
That would get my check book out right away...

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Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:25 am quote
I'll believe it when it's under my ass!!
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:43 am quote
XLR8 wrote:
I strongly suspect that the wobble problem has a lot to do with the one-sided suspension combined with the extra weight and larger tires/wheels on the large frame Vespas.

I've also never seen a one-sided fork on a motorcycle and most are heavier than the large frame Vespas that weigh around 325 pounds.
I had a motorcycle with single side front suspension. It was a great bike. I wish they had continued to improve the concept. James Parker has put a lot of time and effort into it over the years; but it would have meant more with Yamaha's marketing clout. http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/howto/smart_money/122_0801_1993_1994_yamaha_gts1000/
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:47 am quote
DougL wrote:
Of course. The trusty Canon S95 will be in tow!
Standby...standby...

Would love to see pics Doug.

Oh, the anticipation!
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:49 am quote
DougL wrote:
john grinsel wrote:
Show in Germany is this week----wonder if there?
I'm there, flyng out to Cologne tomorrow, so I'll keep y'all updated.
The rumor mill has it being unveiled in Milan, NOT Cologne. So we'll have to wait until November to find out.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:51 am quote
Knight Train wrote:
I'll believe it when it's under my ass!!
Well I don't know about your ass but if it comes to the US it will be under my ass. It is the only one I've seen even rumored that would cause me to replace my GTS 250 but I'll need to see it first but I'll save my pennies.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:20 pm quote
remote
I'll believe it when I see it.

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Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:26 pm quote
Re: remote
Bill Dog wrote:
I'll believe it when I see it.

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Seconded. On this and for fixing wobbles
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:29 pm quote
Len Smith wrote:
The rumor mill has it being unveiled in Milan, NOT Cologne. So we'll have to wait until November to find out.
Indeed. Piaggio is more likely to unveil something as big as this on home territory at EICMA Milano, rather than Intermot Köln.... I think it is fairly likely. we haven't had any really big Vespa models since the GTS in 2004/5
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:36 pm quote
The most intriguing thing I saw apart from ABS and traction control was "sequential gearbox as an option". That would be great but I doubt it. Maybe they were refering to an electrically operated variator like in the Burgman that can be used as a pseudo-manual with up and down "shift" buttons but still a CVT at heart.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:55 pm quote
Lets see....Vespa shows the Quarantasei and the feedback here was "There's no centerstand! Impossible!"

Now, Vespa shows a picture of an engine with not chassis or anything else and we're analysing the front wheel wobble
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:03 pm quote
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:08 pm quote
Zagato wrote:
Lets see....Vespa shows the Quarantasei and the feedback here was "There's no centerstand! Impossible!"

Now, Vespa shows a picture of an engine with not chassis or anything else and we're analysing the front wheel wobble
We didn't say "impossible" because of the centerstand. We said "unlikely" because a few of us actually have some idea of what's in the pipeline.
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:10 pm quote
First time for me, I'm thinking of an upgrade for my GT! I could do a 350!
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