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vespa gts 250
Joined: 03 Sep 2014
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Location: lebanon
Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:45 am quote
Hi everyone, im a new member, my name is Rami..
I just bought a gts250 ie, its been 3 days. The bike sometimes doesnt start. I donno why.
The red flashing light blinks twice then goes on, then it doesnt start. Then it goes on starting after few trials. I had one day where it didnt seem to have any problem.
My friend told me that its because i dont have the master brown key.
Did anyone face such a problem?
Lizard Brain
2007 GTS 250, "Vorga"
Joined: 08 May 2014
Posts: 800
Location: NC
Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:47 am quote
google the terms "GTS250 starting problems" and read the threads. plenty of good ideas to start with.
lots of tial-and-error ideas for you.
Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 (sold) MP3 500 (current)
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Location: welaka, florida
Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:48 am quote
Welcome to MV.

When you say it won't start do you mean nothing happens when you push the button or does the starter engage and turn over the engine?
Lizard Brain
2007 GTS 250, "Vorga"
Joined: 08 May 2014
Posts: 800
Location: NC
Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:48 am quote
look, man, for starters there is the thread below this one: "GTS won't Start/run."
Open the thread and read it.
Hooked
GTV300ie
Joined: 09 Jul 2014
Posts: 312
Location: Raleigh NC
Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:05 am quote
Is the security (red) light on when it won't start and off when it runs? If both are the case you may have a bad antenna for your key. Check posts for how to diagnose security antenna problems.
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vespa gts 250
Joined: 03 Sep 2014
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Location: lebanon
Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:06 am quote
The engine doesnt turn.. here's exactlynwhats happening:
I press the run, the red flashing light blinks twice and stays on (instead of turning off), then i press start, its complete silence...
Ossessionato
2016 Honda NC750XD, 2007 GTS (sold),
Joined: 12 Nov 2006
Posts: 3518
Location: Canada
Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:30 am quote
Immobilizer LED codes

If I'm reading it right, you are so lucky-
for most of the others and without the master key, you'll need a new ECU
Quote:
C= Single 0.7sec flash, then 1 quick 0.5sec flash, then LED stays ON.

C= Break in the Serial line.
A single short flash, pause, then a second short flash, LED then comes back on.
There is a break in the wire between the ECU and the aerial (active antenna).
The Orange / White wire on pin 7. is the link.
Ossessionato
GTS 250 "Audrey"
Joined: 31 May 2008
Posts: 2117
Location: New Harbor, Maine
Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:42 am quote
^^^ I'm with Harvey, especially since you've had it running before. Something's up with the ECU and antenna. Try your best to hunt down the master key; it will make life easier in case the issue is other than a broken wire.
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vespa gts 250
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Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:47 am quote
Thx harvey, i'll keep my finger crossed till 2mrw
Will let u know what i find out
Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 36783
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:26 pm quote
Read page 82 of the workshop manual...
saggezza di scala
2009 'Burma Shave' Red GTS 250ie
Joined: 13 Mar 2010
Posts: 6816
Location: Israel
Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:39 am quote
Here's the page JimC was talking about:

[By the way, Shalom/Salaam and welcome to MV. We have a pretty good Vespa supply chain down here, so if you ever need any help sourcing parts, let me know. We middle easterners need to stick together. ]

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saggezza di scala
2009 'Burma Shave' Red GTS 250ie
Joined: 13 Mar 2010
Posts: 6816
Location: Israel
Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:48 am quote
Oh, and in case you were wondering (as I was) where the immobilizer aerial is located, here is a diagram from the workshop manual (#1).

Also, as a GTS250ie owner, here is the link to a group of documents you should have bookmarked on your computer:

http://www.wotmeworry.org.uk/manuals/Vespa/GTS250/

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Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:59 am quote
labbanrami

to MV from the Sunny Aegean!

Can't help you with all that high tech immobilizer stuff, but as you see, there are folks like Trepp here that will go the extra km to assist.

Hope you get it sorted out.
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