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Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
Joined: 27 Jul 2010
Posts: 10207
Location: This is't my locker!
Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:03 pm quote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
Vader19 wrote:
T5bitza69 wrote:
oops where ya been hiding that .... need more pix of the rearsets n bars n the whole thing ..... that mirror looks useful
Right? that thing looks killer.. road warrior small frame, only nice lookin'!.. I'd love to see more pics.
Started a project thread: UnStealth
That's awesome! Thank you! and that picture is killer! What else you been hiding! Awesome bike man! thanks for the thread!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
a herd of easy shifty rats
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 6708
Location: seattle/athens
Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:18 pm quote
Yes, great build thread w/ lots of interesting tricks.

AND it would seem that I need to send Patrick a sweet reward for posting the best pic on the front page.
I was leaning towards Jimmy cuz he's obviously having the best time w/ a fine old scoot at one of my favorite places, the waterfront.

Sorry Jimmy, but the response to this:



is thru the roof.
nothing at all
Joined: 14 Nov 2008
Posts: 9657
Location: westla
Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:39 pm quote
Patrick and scoots is way above my pay grade.

No comp.

I just ride alot.

That pic of me was on the set of Nite n Day at long beach.
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 7218
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:24 pm quote
here's me on my PK at rides of march in 08



however, this for some reason is one of my favorite shots:



note: it was taken more than a month later, i just happen to almost always wear the same thing.

what i'd really like to find is the photo of patrick and i riding side by side somewhere in the marin headlands, i know it's floating around somewhere...

what is astonishing is: how much smaller the unstealth is than my PK when side by side (not to mention how much of a better rider he is than i am!).

best,
-greasy
Molto Verboso
Joined: 24 Jan 2008
Posts: 1900
Location: Santa Margarita,Ca.
Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:30 pm quote
[quote="greasy125"]here's me on my PK at rides of march in 08


You look cold.
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 7218
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:38 pm quote
scootermarc69 wrote:
You look cold.
only my balls, only my balls.

everything else was warm and toasty.

all kidding aside it was a little crisp that day, but not nearly as bad as that year it rained when we rode wayyyy the fuck out to BFE... i had to turn around and go back to SLO cuz my helmet was totally soaked and dripping water down the back of my neck and into my jacket! took the fwy the WHOLE way back...

-g
Molto Verboso
Joined: 24 Jan 2008
Posts: 1900
Location: Santa Margarita,Ca.
Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:34 pm quote
Out of 12 people who made it to Atascadero that year, three were actually crying. I was proud.
Addicted
Mostly Lambrettisti
Joined: 13 Oct 2012
Posts: 648
Location: SF, CA
Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:02 pm quote
This was from a 60's Vescony catalog found in the glovebox of a GS160 I acquired. A lot of neat stuff in the catalog. Some of it I had seen before, some I had not. Why can't they make single serving oil like that anymore. Truly space-age.

The top image pertains to small frame, the rest does not, but who gives a shit - its Saturday! I plan to archive this as a PDF later in the week as the pamphlet it literally falling apart.

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Hooked
Smallframe Vespas
Joined: 28 Sep 2010
Posts: 124
Location: Belvidere,Illinois
Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:16 am quote
Here is one of my next builds for a racer. I hope to get back working on it this winter.

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Ossessionato
T5 Pole Position, T for thoroughbred
Joined: 07 Oct 2010
Posts: 4611
Location: Dublin
Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:28 pm quote
Looking good greasy. I love pk almost as much as T5
Scooter Pimp
------Piaggio Zip 100------
Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 3074
Location: England
Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:24 pm quote
My old PK125....

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
a herd of easy shifty rats
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 6708
Location: seattle/athens
Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:32 pm quote
sdjohn wrote:
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Then I made a diagram showing all the case bolts and whether a nut or a bolt head faced the flywheel side. I took measurements of the bolts as they came out and noted them on the sheet for later.



-John
Figured I would repost this here for future reference, instead of Random tricks & tips cuz it's just for smallies

Thanks John, good one
Molto Verboso
1966 Bluebadge, 1974 Super 150
Joined: 03 Jun 2013
Posts: 1117
Location: New York City
Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:21 am quote
I just picked up this little guy, so I thought that I would share. It's a 1974 US Spec Primavera.

It's in great original shape as far as I've seen... just needs some love.

Anyone holding original indicators? I'm also missing one of those pyramid looking brackets that the indicators mount on.

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nothing at all
Joined: 14 Nov 2008
Posts: 9657
Location: westla
Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:36 am quote
Ive got a couple projects in front of me and then im getting the 'cow' out.

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Ossessionato
1980 P200E, 1974 Primavera, 04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 3637
Location: San Diego, CA
Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:56 am quote
V oodoo wrote:
sdjohn wrote:
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Then I made a diagram showing all the case bolts and whether a nut or a bolt head faced the flywheel side. I took measurements of the bolts as they came out and noted them on the sheet for later.



-John
Figured I would repost this here for future reference, instead of Random tricks & tips cuz it's just for smallies

Thanks John, good one
No problem. N = nut, B = bolt head The lengths of the 2 missing ones are unknown because they are studs and I haven't finished splitting it.
Hooked
Vespa Rally 200/1967 Lambretta SX150,1979 P200E.1981 Primavera 125.
Joined: 05 Dec 2012
Posts: 165
Location: NORFOLK,ENGLAND
Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:26 am quote
Here's The wifes new 125 Motovespa Primavera,
Veni, Vidi, Posti
px200 cutdown,px180,px150. Puch SR. Puch scooterette
Joined: 08 Apr 2009
Posts: 5109
Location: west aus
Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:45 pm quote
so shiny


Ossessionato
1980 P200E, 1974 Primavera, 04 Ninja 250
Joined: 04 Apr 2013
Posts: 3637
Location: San Diego, CA
Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:09 pm quote
My diagram above sucks. It's missing a bolt! Of course I took the missing bolt out and recorded it as the wrong number, so it's all jacked up. When I put it back together, maybe I'll make another.
Foiled
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Posts: 1240
Location: Naples
Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:41 am quote
Wish

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Molto Verboso
'61 GS150Cushman '63 GS160, '74 Primavera, '77 Rally 200,'80 P200E '05 PX150,'13 946, '70 Honda Z50, '64 Vyatka VP150, '77 Vyatka-Elektron, '07 GTS250
Joined: 13 Nov 2012
Posts: 1127

Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:27 pm quote
1974 US specs, original.

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Addicted
1990's 50s + DR 85
Joined: 24 Feb 2012
Posts: 558
Location: auckland, new zealand
Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:48 pm quote
Good Book
I recently bought the book by Mark Paxton....

How to Restore Classic Smallframe Vespa Scooters

It's excellent. Plenty of color photos for a complete strip down and restoration of a smallie
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p125x
Joined: 15 Apr 2014
Posts: 78
Location: SoCal
Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:34 pm quote
How rare are the US spec Primavera's, T3's, and ET3's ??

I need
xkrebstarx wrote:
I just picked up this little guy, so I thought that I would share. It's a 1974 US Spec Primavera.


Hooked
150 GLx, Rally 200
Joined: 09 Jun 2013
Posts: 256
Location: Netherlands
Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:36 pm quote
Soooo - i'll be getting started on this project soon, I could do a seperate thread on it?

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Still wet in paint booth

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In paintbooth nr 2

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Metallic matt "opaco blu scuro"

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In sunlight

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*Every* other part would be (matt) black (not all parts in this pic are for a V50 though ;)

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p125x
Joined: 15 Apr 2014
Posts: 78
Location: SoCal
Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:44 am quote
mr10 wrote:
Soooo - i'll be getting started on this project soon, I could do a seperate thread on it?
i'm sure graphic smallframe porn is allways welcome
Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
Joined: 27 Jul 2010
Posts: 10207
Location: This is't my locker!
Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:48 am quote
You know I love that Mr.10.. looks like it'll be sick!
Molto Verboso
1966 Bluebadge, 1974 Super 150
Joined: 03 Jun 2013
Posts: 1117
Location: New York City
Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:57 am quote
Oliver Tamborine wrote:
How rare are the US spec Primavera's, T3's, and ET3's ??

I need
The Primaveras and 100 Sports are not rare on the East Coast. I see loads of them. More smallframes and Allstates than proper largeframes here. There's a few '64 V90s for sale in my area right now at decent prices. I'd pick one up, but life is in the way right now.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
a herd of easy shifty rats
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 6708
Location: seattle/athens
Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:22 am quote
Ummmm... Mr10, your color, I want it!

Best combination of blue, black and semi gloss I've ever seen, and on a very well prepped frame.

Congrats on a top notch job!
Enthusiast
Rally 200, Nuova 125, GS 160, GTS 300 and SX 150
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Posts: 76
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Fri May 02, 2014 12:42 pm quote
Here's my 1966 Vespa 125 Nuova.



/Johan
Enthusiast
PX 200 E [+] and some old stuff
Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Posts: 79
Location: Germany, Bavaria (BY)
Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:05 am quote
Here ist my 1977 Primavera. Italian spec. in original paint.

Currently, I am working on it, to bring it back on the road. It was parked for 20 years in a garage.

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Scooter Pimp
------Piaggio Zip 100------
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Posts: 3074
Location: England
Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:01 am quote
efendi wrote:
Here ist my 1977 Primavera. Italian spec. in original paint.

Currently, I am working on it, to bring it back on the road. It was parked for 20 years in a garage.


Out of curiosity...what does the 90 roundel denote....is it kph perhaps?


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Ossessionato
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 3293
Location: pacifica,ca.
Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:38 am quote
wanten wrote:
Here's my 1966 Vespa 125 Nuova.



/Johan
tastes just like root beer . love the color
Enthusiast
PX 200 E [+] and some old stuff
Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Posts: 79
Location: Germany, Bavaria (BY)
Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:57 am quote
Fabio Dougie wrote:
efendi wrote:
Here ist my 1977 Primavera. Italian spec. in original paint.

Currently, I am working on it, to bring it back on the road. It was parked for 20 years in a garage.


Out of curiosity...what does the 90 roundel denote....is it kph perhaps?


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The possible topspeed in km/h, I guess. I think it was a law in Italy, to mark the slower traffic.
Banned
2:6
Joined: 11 Jan 2007
Posts: 7375
Location: San Francisco
Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:23 am quote
efendi wrote:
The possible topspeed in km/h, I guess. I think it was a law in Italy, to mark the slower traffic.
That could be fun to mark up tuned bikes in a similar fashion with a "130" or "140".
Addicted
Too Many
Joined: 15 Jul 2010
Posts: 539
Location: Soap Lake , WA
Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:26 pm quote
My small frames.

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1983

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1970

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1975

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1978

Addicted
1990's 50s + DR 85
Joined: 24 Feb 2012
Posts: 558
Location: auckland, new zealand
Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:42 pm quote
Looks like your 78 is the same colour as my 79

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Too Many
Joined: 15 Jul 2010
Posts: 539
Location: Soap Lake , WA
Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:54 pm quote
pretty rod_r!!!
it is sand blasted and primed, getting rust holes welded up and a new flat green paint job.
Molto Verboso
Joined: 31 May 2009
Posts: 1219
Location: NC, USA
Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:42 am quote
His N Hers
66's

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
a herd of easy shifty rats
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 6708
Location: seattle/athens
Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:04 pm quote
Half ass luv rubs
Geez Bart, what a lovely pair. I think I like hers better, w/ the silver wheels & real deal seat.

Here's a few pics of the 50N I'm just finishing up finally. I just did half of it kinda rough so far on the original blue paint revival, thought ppl might like to see the difference.

I think this was the least Vespa they ever sold, if not the cheapest. NO speedo, NO brake lite, NO metal floor trim, THREE speed and I believe the smallest tires sold on a production Vespa, 2.75x9. Yup, the TIRE is smaller than a 3.50x8. Narrower, about the same OD and a bigger ID resulting in a whole lot less rubber. This thing was built CHEAP.

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as found

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topless

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rubbed

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not rubbed

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half & half

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ditto

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no longer topless, new DR70, 19 carb & a loud ratty pipe.
Ha HA, outa control on those tiny 9's, but I have the conversion rims to put 10's on it, which I hope the motor can now pull.

Mr. Clean
P,SUPER,V90, 50 Special
Joined: 27 Jul 2010
Posts: 10207
Location: This is't my locker!
Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:14 pm quote
Nice Vd! I frakin' love small frames! stock, good, shitty whatever.. they're just cool!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
a herd of easy shifty rats
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Posts: 6708
Location: seattle/athens
Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:17 pm quote
Thanks. Yeah, this one is a blast, but not scary fast.

And you think your smallie is nimble compared to your big ones, try these skinny little 9's if you ever get a chance. Tiny tires? This is like the Austin Mini of Vespas, gocart/roller skate. I'd love to keep 'em but they're way too old w/ small cracks showing and nearly impossible to source.

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giant 3.00x10 along side on Mercato adapter rim

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they're really not much fatter than my mountain bike tires are

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