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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:55 pm quote
just noticed this



Your helmet hook is mounted on the body just under the seat. THE WAY VESPAS WERE MEANT TO WEAR THIS USEFUL ITEM! They're usually on the front of the seat itself on smallies where I think they look kinda odd. Thought I was the only one...

So I like to move it down there too & think you did it on your '75 as well?

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this one came this way, no need to move it

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Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:05 am quote
V oodoo!
Keep the small tires! Here, easy to find and reliable scooter shop.
http://www.scooterworks.com/tire--michelin-acs-2-75-x-9-products-11951.php#.U8voQNm9LCQ
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:25 pm quote
Hey thanks Nutty, never checked there. Found 'em in Britain for $57 + shipping in one shop(6 in stock) or on Brit eBay for $85 + $77 shipping(1 only). Scooterworks is only $46 for the same Michelin tire. Perhaps I will get a set, they are quite nimble & kinda fun.

Take heart, all smallframe 9" folks!
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:08 am quote
Yes the helmet hook is installed on my '75 on the frame under the seat and my 83 will have one there too. I don't like the plastic hook it came with and can't mount it on the new seat in the same manner.
Hooked
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:18 am quote
Nuttmegg, you just saved me about 50 bucks! I was all set to order the conversion rims for my 9" small frame.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:52 am quote
Helmet hook! Been missing the hook my smallstate. Locked at mounting on my seat, thought it'd get in the way ( and looked funny). Couldn't bring myself to drill the frame for the hook I have on the shelf. Looking at Nuttmeg and VooDoos' pics may have brought me around. Smallframe really lack storage.
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Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:04 am quote
Re: Half ass luv rubs
[quote="V oodoo"]Geez Bart, what a lovely pair. I think I like hers better, w/ the silver wheels & real deal seat.

Thanks Voodoo. Hers is the one on the left. Black dogleg levers, black grips, black rubber horn and tail light gaskets. She prefers the contrast. His is more original. Now if I could just find 8mm wheel nuts that use a 14mm socket instead of 13mm it could save that original aspect.

I won't tell her you said that.
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Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:16 pm quote
vacation time
Facebook'd to me by my niece.
Looks like someone is heading for the islands, waiting for a ferry boat.
Very common scene at the local harbor, but usually it's small cars & motorcycles loaded to the max.

I responded: 'You're giving me ideas... or at least dreams'

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Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:40 pm quote
V oodoo! I love that picture of the pink small frame!
Glad to of saved a couple 9" small frames from a conversion!

I am in the process of trying to figure out how to get items shipped from Spain for my MotoVespa PK. Its sure challenging!
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:20 pm quote
DO IT!
scootermarc69 wrote:
Helmet hook! Been missing the hook my smallstate. Locked at mounting on my seat, thought it'd get in the way ( and looked funny). Couldn't bring myself to drill the frame for the hook I have on the shelf. Looking at Nuttmeg and VooDoos' pics may have brought me around. Smallframe really lack storage.
I've added the hook to every scoot I can when I find a spare, whether it came with one or not. They are just too useful to do without, with the right cargo bag. The stock smallie location on the front of the seat does nothing for me. I think it's ugly and I notice that most bikes posted here don't have one any more.


nice scoot, awkward hook
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:36 pm quote
Re: DO IT!
V oodoo wrote:
scootermarc69 wrote:
Helmet hook! Been missing the hook my smallstate. Locked at mounting on my seat, thought it'd get in the way ( and looked funny). Couldn't bring myself to drill the frame for the hook I have on the shelf. Looking at Nuttmeg and VooDoos' pics may have brought me around. Smallframe really lack storage.
I've added the hook to every scoot I can when I find a spare, whether it came with one or not. They are just too useful to do without, with the right cargo bag. The stock smallie location on the front of the seat does nothing for me. I think it's ugly and I notice that most bikes posted here don't have one any more.


nice scoot, awkward hook
Nice little heifer there.
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:58 pm quote
^^^Ha ha, that's Jimmy's from page 1!
I wonder what he's doing with it...
I wonder what he's doing..

@Megan - knew you'd dig the pink! If you could find that scoot, bet you'd try to buy it. Good luck w/ our Spanish amigos.

You know Vader has a smallie too now. Oh that's right, got it from YOU! He's got fresh pics up now, but he hid 'em over in a dusty corner. See if you can find them. Here's bait:


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Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:28 pm quote
New Kid on the block
Fresh from my first ride

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Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:44 pm quote
Thanks man...I'd be tempted to chuck the streamline seat on it when it gets here...just to see how it looks, but it is destined for the green machine

Hey, I was replying to a comment...and it's disappeared...what the...
Mr. Clean
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:53 pm quote
sorry Rod.. I saw you'd also put it up on your own page so I was about to move it there! lol

Anyway, I'm here... so here goes again.

Congrats! I love it.. it's perfect.. I love the bar end signals.. really clean bike.. It's really good!

Cheers
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:58 pm quote
Phew...thought I was going nuts!

Ok, I've showed you mine, now you show me yours.....can't have a smallframe page without a decent shot of the one Voodoo has hinted at
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:00 pm quote
rod_r wrote:
Phew...thought I was going nuts!

Ok, I've showed you mine, now you show me yours.....can't have a smallframe page without a decent shot of the one Voodoo has hinted at
It's in the Gallery section.. you've seen it thilly!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:23 pm quote
What are we here, chopped liver?

C'mon V, add your horse to the herd.

Or maybe it's too good for these humble pages.

BTW Rod, O U T S T A N D I N G !
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:49 pm quote
Thanks V oodoo.....although it's not like I actually did anything....nice to be its owner though.

Yeah, come on V. I don't wanna have to drag my ass all the way over to gallery! That's way too many clicks dude....spread the love here.

I don't want to get all cute-sy, but yours is the finest reworked scooter I have ever seen
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:30 pm quote
Bar-end signals are so cool.
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50special 125 primavera 150 super 180 ss 150 pxe
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:35 pm quote
1974 primavera restoration
Summer 2014

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Mr. Clean
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:31 pm quote
^^^ Nice!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:50 pm quote


I like your chrome banana. Anything else going on in the motor?
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:08 pm quote
ive been lookin at this thread a fair bit last couple of days as I might be picking up a 50cc smallie soon


what cylinder kits will fit on a 50 and are there more engine design variatons in the 60s and 70s


im 6'1 and live on a steep hill
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:19 pm quote
I'm 6'1.5 so don't let that put you off....although I am a svelte 80kg.

My understanding is you are limited to 112 with the 43mm 50cc crank. Malossi do 112, I have a Pinasco 102.

I also believe to 50s has a slightly stronger motor than the standard 50n, but I could be wrong.

50s also has different gearing, with a longer 4th, so you have to be careful changing the primaries a bit.

Speed wise, my 102 kitted 50s with everything else pretty stock can do 66kph GPS on the flat, and probably 70 with the 16t primary instead of the 14t.

Funnily enough today, with a tailwind, my stock 50s did 66kph GPS but it takes a lot longer to get there than the 102
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:27 pm quote
cheers



the cylinders are a lot cheaper than 210s etc, sweet as. I like cheap
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:34 pm quote
If you have a 50 or any model w/ the 'short' crank stock, you're limited to something just over 110cc. If it's a 90 or bigger, stock it'll have the longer crank like a Primavera 125. Now the kits top out only a bit bigger, like 135 or something as the Primmy was already pushing it.

With later small crank motors, just swap crank & run any big top end you like. maybe possible w/ older ones if extra machining is done.

If you do go from small to big cc's, you'll need to sort the gears too or you'll be riding a winding the piss out of it without much actual speed wheelie machine.
But maybe that's what you had in mind
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:34 am quote
are there faults in this setup? maybe shitty clutch even


seems like a good deal at least until postage




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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:42 am quote
V oodoo wrote:
^^^Ha ha, that's Jimmy's from page 1!
I wonder what he's doing with it...
I wonder what he's doing..

@Megan - knew you'd dig the pink! If you could find that scoot, bet you'd try to buy it. Good luck w/ our Spanish amigos.

You know Vader has a smallie too now. Oh that's right, got it from YOU! He's got fresh pics up now, but he hid 'em over in a dusty corner. See if you can find them. Here's bait:


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Love that seat.
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Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:17 am quote
Hi all,

Lately I try to tuning my smallie in Indonesia we call it Vespa Pts 100. I have problem with how to install a grimeca disc brake in my bike. I use a t5 fork and bitubo for px, because in my home town is so hard to find a pk fork or corsa fork. The thing is, when i put it all together n try to ride it, it's like I ride a chopper motorcycle ahaha, plus the look of the bike it's unproportional. Can u guys help me how to fix it without changing the disc brake or cut the front suspension?

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:56 am quote
Vader, how comfy is that smallframe seat? I may need one myself...off this morning to pick this up, a one owner Primavera:

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:14 pm quote
Got it home and up on the bench to take stock of what she needs.

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Mr. Clean
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Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:28 pm quote
Quasi-moto wrote:
Got it home and up on the bench to take stock of what she needs.
Damn Len.. score!!! that looks great! Where'd you find that beauty? Don't tell me vista..
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:29 pm quote
Vader19 wrote:
Quasi-moto wrote:
Got it home and up on the bench to take stock of what she needs.
Damn Len.. score!!! that looks great! Where'd you find that beauty? Don't tell me vista..
Closer to your neck of the woods. The original buyer traded it in at Vespa Sherman Oaks on a new scoot, and I bought it from them. Thanks to David, Lynda and Jordan!

Here's the original sales receipt:

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:13 pm quote
Quasi-moto wrote:
Got it home and up on the bench to take stock of what she needs.
really really great looking little scoot. and all the history right there too
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Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:13 pm quote
Nice find Quasi-moto, hope you picked it up for original sale price!

Here's my scoot, right before a Sunday romp thru town.

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:08 pm quote
Mr. J! What is that pipe on there now???
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Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:56 pm quote
sdjohn wrote:
Mr. J! What is that pipe on there now???
Hey John, its a VSP road exhaust made by JL, the welds are top quality but it did require some finesse and cussing to mount. It's one of a few expansion chambers that will fit while retaining the glove/tool box.

Here's somebody's vid of the exhaust note, it may be offensive to others but me likey!

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Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:32 am quote
mr.j wrote:
Nice find Quasi-moto, hope you picked it up for original sale price!

Here's my scoot, right before a Sunday romp thru town.
Nice scoot, mr.j!

Can you share more about your rear rack and how it's mounted. I've taken the funky/ugly leg shield, refrigerator type, wire rack off, but have no where to put stuff anymore.

I'm also curious about the helmet hook on your seat? I have a 50 special with no hook. Is it stock to mount on the seat?

Cheers,

PacRat

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Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:58 pm quote
pacrat wrote:
Nice scoot, mr.j!

Can you share more about your rear rack and how it's mounted. I've taken the funky/ugly leg shield, refrigerator type, wire rack off, but have no where to put stuff anymore.

I'm also curious about the helmet hook on your seat? I have a 50 special with no hook. Is it stock to mount on the seat?

Cheers,

PacRat
Hi PacRat, thank you for the compliment and welcome to the NSM side of MV! I read your thread and sweet 50 smallframe you picked up ahem I mean wifey. I think your colour is called Hawthorne White and you have the US tractor style tail lamp.

The rear rack came with the scoot and is made by F.A.R. SpA Italy, unfortunately they are no longer produced. It is held on by the seat pin and a backing plate that is located behind the rear tail lamp.

You can find other versions: rear rack. Some can hold a spare tire and most of the designs that I see currently produced will need additional mounting rods and possible drilling in the frame.

The helmet hook comes stock mounted on most bench seats but some members prefer them just below the seat and mounted to the frame. It's very handy for holding the helmet and securing your take away dinner, it gets way more use vs the rack.

-Its cool how VW's enthusiasts seem to also flock to the simplicity of the ol' scoots and vice versa. I dream of a Westy with a Subaru conversion or even a Syncro. Post a pic of your 67 bus, when you can. Cheers!
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