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Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:54 pm quote
Family member visiting brought their dog. I couldn't stop myself from setting up this photo.

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Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:24 pm quote
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Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:39 pm quote
I realize the photo is a joke but I'm curious. What is the origin of the term "pet carrier"? I had never seen that expression used in relation to the underseat storage until I purchased a European Scooter. I was puzzled by the "no pets" labels under the seat of my Piaggio. Im thinking, "Who would do that?"
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Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:44 pm quote
Skunkhome wrote:
I realize the photo is a joke but I'm curious. What is the origin of the term "pet carrier"? I had never seen that expression used in relation to the underseat storage until I purchased a European Scooter. I was puzzled by the "no pets" labels under the seat of my Piaggio. Im thinking, "Who would do that?"
Not quite sure how the "no pets" label came about, but "pet carrier" is just an ironic twist to the label.
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Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:09 pm quote
Skunkhome wrote:
I realize the photo is a joke but I'm curious. What is the origin of the term "pet carrier"? I had never seen that expression used in relation to the underseat storage until I purchased a European Scooter. I was puzzled by the "no pets" labels under the seat of my Piaggio. Im thinking, "Who would do that?"
It's obvious, to me at least, that there was a lawsuit.
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Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:31 pm quote
In America. We don't have the sticker here.
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Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:50 am quote
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In America. We don't have the sticker here.
lol
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Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:32 am quote
vintage red matthew wrote:
It's obvious, to me at least, that there was a lawsuit.
Somebody's fish got cooked?
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Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:22 am quote
Here, the "pet coocker" expression is quite popular and is actually a more obvious hint on why not to use it for pets Our cat is quite a free spirit that spends 95% of her time outside (I once had to drive here in our car to the vet, and she went bezirk, even loosing flocks of hair from plain stress). I don't believe I'll ever get here into posing like on DucatiSS photo, without shredding me to pieces, haha. (great photo, btw)

Never actually saw a "no pets" sticker on any scooter over here, not in Belgium, nor in other places in Europe. In fact, I never saw any stickers on new Vespas here, apart from the official little Italian flag at the bottom of leg shield and the "Eni" fuel sticker. Otherwise not a single sticker, outside or inside. They come as virgin as they can. Maybe people have put these on themselves? Has anyone else actually seen these pet stickers in Europe itself, straight from the facotry? I'm curious about this.

Maybe we could make a topic about what country has which official stickers and in what language (with photos). I'll have to pass though, nothing to report.
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Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:58 am quote
But why call it a pet carrier when obviously it is not appropriate for that use.
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Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:27 am quote
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But why call it a pet carrier when obviously it is not appropriate for that use.
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Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:59 am quote
My 2006 GTS 250 came with the sticker "No Pets" stuck to the front inside surface. It is a US model.
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Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:25 pm quote
Skunkhome wrote:
But why call it a pet carrier when obviously it is not appropriate for that use.
Because, irony.
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Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:25 pm quote
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There are warning labels all over the interior of my bike.
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Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:28 pm quote
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Has anyone else actually seen these pet stickers in Europe itself, straight from the facotry? I'm curious about this.
There's one on my Primavera.

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Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:17 pm quote
FlandersWasp wrote:
Has anyone else actually seen these pet stickers in Europe itself, straight from the facotry? I'm curious about this.

Maybe we could make a topic about what country has which official stickers and in what language (with photos). I'll have to pass though, nothing to report.
Nothing to report. Very different approach to personal responsibility in EU than in US, one can't really claim against vehicle manufacturers for any other than real product faults. If you use a scoot in a funny way, it's under your own responsibility and not the manufacturer's. So back to pet carriets...

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Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:07 pm quote
Whats personal responsibility? I believe that is un-American.
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:23 am quote
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FlandersWasp wrote:
Has anyone else actually seen these pet stickers in Europe itself, straight from the facotry? I'm curious about this.

Maybe we could make a topic about what country has which official stickers and in what language (with photos). I'll have to pass though, nothing to report.
Nothing to report. Very different approach to personal responsibility in EU than in US, one can't really claim against vehicle manufacturers for any other than real product faults. If you use a scoot in a funny way, it's under your own responsibility and not the manufacturer's. So back to pet carriets...

I'll have to add for clarity, my intention is in no way to say which way is better - the approach is build into laws and the culture, so it's kind of impossible to take a detail and compare only this - but this difference happens to be visible in the absence of various warning stickers in EU, just saying that.
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:24 am quote
What idiot would put his cat or dog under his seat to go for a ride? Only in America. Obviously, some moron did it and killed his pet, hence the need for the sticker. Just like stickers on drain cleaner bottles, DO NOT DRINK. Really, someone is going to drink that stuff?
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:52 am quote
Don't forget the "contents are hot" labels on coffee.
Apparently on this side of the pond we're not so clever about these things....
Or maybe we are too clever.
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:30 am quote
Those labels are likely not for the consumer but rather for protecting the manufacturor, a question of liability and warranty. In Europe, consumers' protection goes as far as the warranty period (EU mandatory two years). As for the rest, any battle against a manufacturor would cost you lots of money with probably no result. Class-actions (btw invented in the U.S.) are non existend or very rare, here in Europe. So the manufacturors have little to fear .

In the U.S. however, class-actions are pretty common. When a manufacturor causes whatever damage or loss, the customers can team up and get him on his knees and let him pay. A smart way to circumvent this in the U.S. is to warn customers, with lots of stickers, not to do this and that with their product. In case of damage, the manufacturor can reject liability as the customer "didn't use the product in the proper way", despite being warned.

I suppose we can condense this to the following observation:

In Europe you hardly see such stickers, but you can't sue them, so you're screwed when it comes to liability. In the U.S., you can sue them, but they put stickers on their products, so they can say they warned you, so you're screw too. The same "customer protection" everywhere, I suppose. Oh well, good for keeping the economy running, I guess...

They could easily replace all the different stickers by only one: "Don't call us, we don't care"

PS: here however, we also have all kinds of various and elaborate warnings, but only stated in the user manual booklet, not on stickers at the Vespa. I suppose the legal results are equal for both methods.
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:50 am quote
It's like the jar of salted peanuts that has the warning message on the label that says "Contains Peanuts", glad the told me that I was wondering what the salt was sticking to!
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:51 am quote
Here's a stupid one on my Vino. First pic is of the bike. Second is the sticker. The sticker is on the round piece near the seat. If you sat there the bike would rear up and hit you in the back of the head. The fact that somebody actually was stupid enough to do that boggles my mind.

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Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:01 am quote
kshansen wrote:
It's like the jar of salted peanuts that has the warning message on the label that says "Contains Peanuts", glad the told me that I was wondering what the salt was sticking to!
Unless your kid, alergic to nuts, eats them and get an anaphylactic shock The funny part is that thosed little kids can't read yet We, here over the pond, do have such "contains this and that" warnings on food packadging.
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:15 am quote
Of all the craze warnings....
This one is by far my favorite!

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Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:45 am quote
I once saw a carton of medium base lightbulbs marked "not for internal use".
It's mind boggling to think what might have precipitated that.

BTW, Madison Sully, that label is quite cleaver and very cute.

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Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:54 am quote
FlandersWasp wrote:
kshansen wrote:
It's like the jar of salted peanuts that has the warning message on the label that says "Contains Peanuts", glad the told me that I was wondering what the salt was sticking to!
Unless your kid, alergic to nuts, eats them and get an anaphylactic shock The funny part is that thosed little kids can't read yet We, here over the pond, do have such "contains this and that" warnings on food packadging.
Apparently, recent research indicates that we have created the current epidemic of peanut allergies by our phobia of feeding infants foods containing peanuts.
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:59 am quote
Skunkhome wrote:
I once saw a carton of medium base lightbulbs marked "not for internal use".
It's mind boggling to think what might have precipitated that.
I was going to say that I saw a screwdriver that said "wear eye protection" but you have me beat.
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:19 am quote
Skunkhome wrote:
I once saw a carton of medium base lightbulbs marked "not for internal use".
It's mind boggling to think what might have precipitated that.

BTW, Madison Sully, that label is quite cleaver and very cute.
I can take no credit for it, other than to agree with you...
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:10 pm quote
Example


A fella was riding his bicycle at night without lights. He was struck by a car. He failed to win the law suit against the driver of the car because law requires his bicycle to have working lights when operated at night. So he sews the bicycle manufacture and wins. Now all bicycle manufacturers have to affix a label warning people to use lights when operating the bike at night.

Idiocracy rules the modern U.S.
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:44 pm quote
rwd11954 wrote:
What idiot would put his cat or dog under his seat to go for a ride? Only in America. Obviously, some moron did it and killed his pet,
Not sure the said pet was deceased, maybe just roasted a bit.
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Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:30 pm quote
fledermaus wrote:
rwd11954 wrote:
What idiot would put his cat or dog under his seat to go for a ride? Only in America. Obviously, some moron did it and killed his pet,
Not sure the said pet was deceased, maybe just roasted a bit.
Translation: "Our lawyers made us write this." Some companies are impish enough to put that just ahead of the disclaimer in their product manuals.
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Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:06 am quote
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In Europe you hardly see such stickers, but you can't sue them, so you're screwed when it comes to liability.
Hi don't get this ?the european union health and safety,and consumer protection regulation are some of the most stringent in the world,we not only have individual judicial process in all the countries but can also litigate and escalate an action in the european court?
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Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:10 am quote
SKUNK i totally get the light bulb one. I did overtime in the ER once and a guy came in with one up his ass. Friday nights in a major city ER can be very interesting.
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Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:53 pm quote
judy wrote:
SKUNK i totally get the light bulb one. I did overtime in the ER once and a guy came in with one up his ass. Friday nights in a major city ER can be very interesting.
Ouch!
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Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:33 am quote
Der Blechfahrer wrote:
In America. We don't have the sticker here.
Scooterwest has the stickers for those outside the US:

http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_pageCCS=t#page=/item_details/No-Pets-Sticker/1786
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Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:58 am quote
This is a great thread, very funny and even a punchline
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Der Blechfahrer wrote:
In America. We don't have the sticker here.
Scooterwest has the stickers for those outside the US:
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Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:07 am quote
judy wrote:
Here's a stupid one on my Vino. First pic is of the bike. Second is the sticker. The sticker is on the round piece near the seat. If you sat there the bike would rear up and hit you in the back of the head. The fact that somebody actually was stupid enough to do that boggles my mind.
Yeah, the sticker should have just been put on the actual seat to clarify.
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