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Molto Verboso
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:42 am quote
^^ thanks amateriat.

I'm not sure where this drawing is leading. It felt good to draw something quickly and not get hung up too much on the accuracy of the lines.
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:56 am quote
2pop
Paddlenround wrote:
rather than mock others (Bitza). Here you are....a PX.
hang on im lost ...... you sayin im mockin others
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:05 am quote
Re: 2pop
T5bitza69 wrote:
Paddlenround wrote:
rather than mock others (Bitza). Here you are....a PX.
hang on im lost ...... you sayin im mockin others
No, he's saying he was mocking you.
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:55 am quote
Ironfoot wrote:
^^ thanks amateriat.

I'm not sure where this drawing is leading. It felt good to draw something quickly and not get hung up too much on the accuracy of the lines.
I think you should put the second drawing on a shirt. Same thing. Dead center but no writing on the shirt besides a small logo marking the art.
Molto Verboso
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:08 am quote




Ok, I think I might be ready to have another go at this. I've imported the previous raster sketch back into Illustrator. So I'm working in vectors again now. I've stripped the colour out and plan to use what's left as a foundation for a new image.

I'd like to see if I can work it through to a final graphic, all neatened up and smoothed out. Kind of like brushed ink work. It will be a long job cleaning up all these rough lines.

I'll keep the original sketch as a separate file so I can come back to it and use it for something if need be.

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Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:39 am quote
Re: 2pop
CubsKing99 wrote:
T5bitza69 wrote:
Paddlenround wrote:
rather than mock others (Bitza). Here you are....a PX.
hang on im lost ...... you sayin im mockin others
No, he's saying he was mocking you.
Thanks! Yes...I was mocking Bitza for his floaty wheels..hehe. I contributed my drawing to subject myself to mockery. Let it fly!
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:47 am quote
Here's one I did some years back. If this thread continues, I hope to find the time to do another.

Bob

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Molto Verboso
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:25 am quote



Control points. I've put the Wacom pen aside and am using the mouse and keyboard now. Mostly working directly on the control points, nudging them around one at a time.





So many control points (little blue dots in this image - they might not show too well on small screens), but they're getting fewer all the time as I eliminate the lumps and bumps and refine the linework. It's time consuming.

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Molto Verboso
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:09 am quote



Refining and simplifying the line work. Legshield, horncast and mudguard are looking better now. Still lots to do.

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Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:11 am quote
Still no offers to purchase the rights to my incredible original artwork. I wonder if Strick is feeling the same pain...
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:30 am quote
popilop
Paddlenround wrote:
Let it fly!
oh yea didnt see you on me phone .... the cunt
Molto Verboso
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:21 pm quote
Here's a painting I won at a rally

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Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:23 pm quote
There are some folks around here here with a whole lot of talent! Thank you for sharing your art.
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:27 pm quote
froggieposition wrote:
Ironfoot wrote:
^^ thanks amateriat.

I'm not sure where this drawing is leading. It felt good to draw something quickly and not get hung up too much on the accuracy of the lines.
I think you should put the second drawing on a shirt. Same thing. Dead center but no writing on the shirt besides a small logo marking the art.
I would buy one. *hint-hint*
darqmommy wrote:
Still no offers to purchase the rights to my incredible original artwork. I wonder if Strick is feeling the same pain...
No purchase offers yet, but my art has been modified. It's like allowing Bob Ross (may he rest in happy trees peace) to touch up the Mona Lisa.
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:07 pm quote
Burgerbob wrote:
Here's one I did some years back. If this thread continues, I hope to find the time to do another.

Bob
Damn, Bob! You got skillz! What's the medium? Pastels?
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:44 pm quote
Ironfoot wrote:



Refining and simplifying the line work. Legshield, horncast and mudguard are looking better now. Still lots to do.
So far, so good. I like the idea of it being neat, but not too neat. And I like Froggieposition's notion of keeping it simple, just a logo underneath. (Goodness...with your talent, who needs a sales pitch?)
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:45 pm quote
Etchkid wrote:
I've got an Etch A Sketch drawing of my LXV coming up. Stay tuned. Give it a while, though. It's 3rd in line- I promised my kids Frozen drawings first. Just about done with Elsa and Anna on paper and getting ready to transfer it to the Etch A Sketch.
Okay, I'm waiting. Sounds crazy-cool.
artbybernadette wrote:
My fun version in ink and watercolor-
That's just wonderful.
Paddlenround wrote:
Well...had a long conference call so I thought I would contribute one rather than mock others (Bitza). Here you are....a PX.
Also good. This is almost too much to take from y'all...
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:00 pm quote
darqmommy wrote:
Ironfoot, can I join your posse?
People often ask me where my inspiration comes from.
I draw from life... from life...
I'm still giggling from your picture.
Molto Verboso
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:44 pm quote
Etchkid wrote:
Burgerbob wrote:
Here's one I did some years back. If this thread continues, I hope to find the time to do another.

Bob
Damn, Bob! You got skillz! What's the medium? Pastels?
Thanks, Etchkid, the medium is actually old fashioned airbrush! Still waiting to see yours.

Bob
Molto Verboso
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:46 pm quote
Ironfoot wrote:



Control points. I've put the Wacom pen aside and am using the mouse and keyboard now. Mostly working directly on the control points, nudging them around one at a time.





So many control points (little blue dots in this image - they might not show too well on small screens), but they're getting fewer all the time as I eliminate the lumps and bumps and refine the linework. It's time consuming.
Ah, bezier curves, Luv them!

Bob
Molto Verboso
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:57 am quote
amateriat wrote:
So far, so good. I like the idea of it being neat, but not too neat. And I like Froggieposition's notion of keeping it simple
Yes, I totally get the appeal of the earlier sketch. Hand-drawn work has a certain charm. There's character in the marks of a pen or brush, like in Froggie's Marmite painting and Bernadette's ink wash, both on the first page.

The direction I'm taking this will certainly alter that hand-made nature, but I aim to transfer that craft into the weight and the tapers of the outlines, and bring out the contours of the scooter.

It'll be interesting to see whether this ongoing image can win over the folk who favour the sketch.
Burgerbob wrote:
Ah, bezier curves, Luv them!
Yeah, beziers are more my normal working medium. They are so fine-tuneable I can get lost in them for days.

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Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:06 am quote
Someone get Quezzie in this thread!
Molto Verboso
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:48 am quote



Really getting somewhere now. Finished inking the rear cowls, that means all the body panels are now tidy and complete. Plus I've added in a few little details that weren't in the original sketch. What is that little valve/clip/thing where the bottom of the cowl meets the floorboard?

Almost all the rough hatching from the original sketch is now gone. I'll need to tackle the undercarriage and front wheel suspension next. Need to get that drawn economically without too many fiddly marks.

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Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:51 am quote
Looks great!
Simply as a minor art critique, maybe round that front tire a bit more.
Digging the image though!
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:06 am quote
And I see that you did decide to add the left side cover.

I do agree that it looks cleaner, but it seems to lose some of the character of the rough sketch when it's cleaned up. (I think "sanitized" is the word I'm looking for...) I guess it's like the difference between a museum/showroom bike and a gritty, sweaty working ride. Each has their place, and it's a matter of preference as to which someone likes better...
Molto Verboso
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:22 am quote
froggieposition wrote:
maybe round that front tire a bit more.
Definitely. I'll come to that area next.
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:23 am quote
I like it even more now. The left cowl adds more dimension to the scooter.

This is fascinating (to me) to see the process of art work from concept to rough sketches to the finished design. Keep the updates coming Ironfoot!
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:41 am quote
I was bothered by the missing left cowel too. Now it looks like it might be a little too big. I have that exact model of scooter. I can take a picture from the same angle and see how much of it is visible.
Molto Verboso
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:07 am quote
That's interesting Matthew. Maybe you could just eyeball it and give me a general idea.

I'm happy for it to be mostly in the right place, without getting too exact. On the other hand, I don't want it to be outright wrong.

I found another reference photo online, taken from a similar three-quarter profile, and fair amount of the further cowl was visible. That's what I used to position the line in the latest image I posted.
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:49 am quote
Pepy27 wrote:
My brother did this for me, not sure how or with what....
Gorgeous
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:59 am quote
Ironfoot wrote:



Really getting somewhere now. Finished inking the rear cowls, that means all the body panels are now tidy and complete. Plus I've added in a few little details that weren't in the original sketch. What is that little valve/clip/thing where the bottom of the cowl meets the floorboard?

Almost all the rough hatching from the original sketch is now gone. I'll need to tackle the undercarriage and front wheel suspension next. Need to get that drawn economically without too many fiddly marks.
Wow...really liking it now, more than I thought I would post-"refinement." Play on, sir.
Molto Verboso
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Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:57 am quote



Ok, tidied up underneath the scooter, done the front wheel and suspension. The center stand had to go.

I've nudged the line for the far side cowl over to the left a little bit. I'll make an animated gif later that will highlight how some of these lines have moved around as the drawing has progressed.

I think that's all the outline work complete. It's looking good, I'm happy. It's come a long way from the rough sketch.

I'll think about adding some colour next.

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Molto Verboso
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Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:11 am quote





The artwork is way cleaner now. This is a wireframe view before and after the big clean up job. The beauty of smooth vector linework like this is it can be enlarged to infinity and still look good.

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Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:07 am quote
Yes, yes, yes...this is so good.
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Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:26 pm quote
Nice drawings.
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Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:58 pm quote
I got as close as I could to the same angle. My camera was on the ground. I think the picture was taken from a slightly lower angle and a longer focal length. The scooter seems to be on a small hill. I think the angle is close enough to to the original picture to say that I think your location of the left cowel is about right. If you follow the curve of the exhaust up it continues into the curve of the cowel. Looks good to me.

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Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:34 am quote
an age
i prefer the realistic style too ............

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Molto Verboso
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:47 am quote
vintage red matthew wrote:
I got as close as I could to the same angle. My camera was on the ground. I think the picture was taken from a slightly lower angle and a longer focal length. The scooter seems to be on a small hill. I think the angle is close enough to to the original picture to say that I think your location of the left cowel is about right. If you follow the curve of the exhaust up it continues into the curve of the cowel. Looks good to me.
Beautiful scooter. I really appreciate you recreating that angle for the photo. Very helpful, and great to have the approval of an actual owner! Thanks for the feedback.
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:48 am quote
Do mosaics count?

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Belkwinith wrote:
Do mosaics count?
Yes. Yes they do. Those are awesome!
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