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Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:34 pm quote
So the bag is suffocating the cat, and it's getting rank at this piont.
Here we go,
Of course no pictures until everyone has assured me that it can't be done.

So I've found the solution to the 13 inch mounting bolt for a VB1T to install a later engine inside, in the process I've discovered that it's known that these little scoots flex on hard cornering right back there in the little frame section we mount our engines too.
Piaggio don't cry, what I'm about to reveal is my project plans.
I've recently aquired a sad P200 block and it wasn't my intention, but provenance has awarded me the opportunity to have a perfect mockup tool.
I was using a True Veloce 3 Port engine for this mock up, but it's heavy and bulky, at one point I considered tearing it down (it's a Runner) to facilitate measurements and fitting! But alas we have ignition captian!
So, with a bit more experience looking at this project now, I see it's impossible to fit an engine in there correctly under the hood unless you cut and weld.

But where do you cut and what do you weld?
No where right?
Bah.
There needs to be strength and clearance in the same place where the engine hinges from, if you'll look at any Vespa they've changed that area over the years and not allways for the better.
But it can be done, I promise. And it can look right.
The end (engine) game here is unknown as of yet, but the picture is that little red scoot on 8" hauling (my) ass, sidecar for parades and such, that option is waaay down the line.
The next post will have pictures, I promise.
Here's the recap
http://modernvespa.com/forum/post2050977?highlight=#2050977

I've got a bigger shed now, and summer is coming, and so is a scooter rally to prepare for. Hope to make the TDI rally!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:56 pm quote
What's wrong with using the adapter kit instead?
Hooked
Two peddles, wheels, cantilevers.
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Wed May 11, 2016 7:41 am quote
joshzingzing wrote:
What's wrong with using the adapter kit instead?
Maybe because that bracket is a hack, and it's not the correct way to do it.
But hey, I'm only a PROFESSIONAL.

A hack that is a waste of money in my opinion since it's my scoot and I know what I'm doing.

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Fri May 13, 2016 8:56 pm quote
What do you have in mind?

And where are the pics you promised?

If you put the carb under the seat, you shouldn't have to cut the frame unless you put that 200 motor in it, then the cylinder area needs to be clearanced w/ a bit of out of sight cutting & welding as I understand.
Hooked
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Sat May 14, 2016 3:44 pm quote
V oodoo wrote:
What do you have in mind?

And where are the pics you promised?

If you put the carb under the seat, you shouldn't have to cut the frame unless you put that 200 motor in it, then the cylinder area needs to be clearanced w/ a bit of out of sight cutting & welding as I understand.
I'm not working on it right now, it's moved down the list until I can afford a tank, but I did come up with a one off tail light.
When I knock that out I'll show and tell.
Hooked
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Sat May 14, 2016 5:07 pm quote
Veloce Vulture wrote:
V oodoo wrote:
What do you have in mind?

And where are the pics you promised?

If you put the carb under the seat, you shouldn't have to cut the frame unless you put that 200 motor in it, then the cylinder area needs to be clearanced w/ a bit of out of sight cutting & welding as I understand.
I'm not working on it right now, it's moved down the list until I can afford a tank, but I did come up with a one off tail light.
When I knock that out I'll show and tell.
Meh, nevamind, this forum has too much disdain for someone who has experience, tools and training. But news flash, it's a system problem. It's not personal. Cya
Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Sun May 15, 2016 12:43 am quote
Veloce Vulture wrote:
Meh, nevamind, this forum has too much disdain for someone who has experience, tools and training.
You mean yourself? So far, we only have your word on that. May or may not be true. Guess we'll never know now.
Ossessionato
2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Sun May 15, 2016 2:24 am quote
Ginch wrote:
Veloce Vulture wrote:
Meh, nevamind, this forum has too much disdain for someone who has experience, tools and training.
You mean yourself? So far, we only have your word on that. May or may not be true. Guess we'll never know now.
I does got ixperiince, distayn, am a tool & qualifications in trainigs as well... But fuk me, these Vespar thingees have me buggered, & i spent time at boarding school
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Sun May 15, 2016 2:29 am quote
urrrrrr duuuurr
can anyone help me especially the op ......
me headlight bulb if flashing .... think its comin apart inside ... so i bought a new un .... how do i get my hand through the lens to change it ......
think ill wash the scoot n see if i can work this conundrum out
Hooked
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Wed May 25, 2016 11:47 am quote
1965 Vespa Factory recommendation 5,000 miles / clean and adjust points
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I repeat 5,000 miles

Fast forward 2016
The status quo says that Vespa design won't make it that far, shops, forums.

My experience has shown that they do make it well past 5k
Even viet bodges, so it must be YOUR PROBLEM.
Hooked
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Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:23 pm quote
I've been collecting parts, tank et al. That is all.
Hooked
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Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:44 pm quote
Better digs

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Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:02 pm quote
So how did you get a 200 motor in it then? i'm confused.
Hooked
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Mon May 01, 2017 4:16 pm quote
It's a slow process, I'm using a p200 case to set up the 150 engine.
No physical progress has been made, just been spending money on it. (Parts)
Hooked
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Wed May 17, 2017 5:12 pm quote
Scrapped the P200 idea and went forward with a 150 install.

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Hooked
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Fri May 19, 2017 7:31 pm quote
Almost finished hanging the pump, with the original shock mount and my custom swing arm bolt.
No hackage has occurred (yet)
No matter what I do it will always be an OUTLAW.

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Hooked
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Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:25 pm quote
Well all that's left to do is to cut the frame, I've acquired all the parts, cleaned out the garage of clutter.
The engine is in, waiting for summer to end to continue the project.
Almost had it at roller status until kids got sick in the last few weeks of school.

Thinking about selling sidecar, not sure yet. Don't think I'd ever use it.
Hooked
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Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:07 am quote
Well sold the sidecar, got a manifold coming. Wait and see before I cut thee.
Hooked
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Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:27 pm quote
Sure enough so much the deal. Got the pump hung, a chip sized notch to fit the intake. Everything looks good. And the wife cucked me. Lost everything but my beating heart. Back in Hawaii, planing on heading to SE Asia, hear they need good help. And plenty of ladies. Y’all can have the west. Tuk Tuk Tuk, Yuk Yuk!
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