Official 2016 Scooter Cannonball thread
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:29 am quote
Breakfast at the Bunkhouse in Valentine, NE.
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:34 am quote
cdwise wrote:
Breakfast at the Bunkhouse in Valentine, NE.
You got out bright and early. Hope the tire balance was in your favor today.
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:09 pm quote
Cannonball maintenance in the parking lot.

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Yes, even I sometimes wrench. Thanks Sean for the Rideon assistance.

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Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:14 pm quote
Is there something wrong with the followride site. I cannot seem to get the rider's positions to load. The map and weather overlay comes up, but not the rider positions.
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:21 pm quote
LM15 wrote:
Is there something wrong with the followride site. I cannot seem to get the rider's positions to load. The map and weather overlay comes up, but not the rider positions. :-?
same for me, bee like that all day
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:57 pm quote
You can see the individual riders but there is a problem with viewing everyone. Feb31st said he'll kick the server when he gets home. In the meantime more parking lot wrenching going on.

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Changing MP3 front tires.

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Bill inflates his tires the old fashioned way.

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Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:09 pm quote
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Dammit, all these lovely people who I know and care about.

I'm so close and yet so far.

Big sigh.

Bill xxx
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:57 pm quote
Sorry for the sluggishness with FollowRide today. Had to optimize a query, all set.
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:23 pm quote
Scorecard
Who's in the lead? The scorecard only shows the 3rd day.Or maybe its just my internet connection.
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:29 pm quote
Well we have the first ticket of this year's cannonball.

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Bob Monday #54 riding '86 Helix

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Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:31 pm quote
After a quiet afternoon, we are turning in scores now. Will know something soon, but my guess is flyguy2 stretched his lead. I rode as fast as I could but only beat his raw time by a few minutes. The Smax combination of speed and handicap can't be beat. Very good rider too.

Bigkart got stopped by a state trooper one block from the hotel. He and that helix are a perfect pair.
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:58 pm quote
Maroy posted the unsorted PDF with Day 5 results earlier in this thread. Here's the top 10 sorted.
Name Number Total
flyguy2 1 1400
Bigkart 51 1399
WLeuthold 41 1379
Classic Rider 14 1329
Motovista 20 1306
cdwise 56 1227
Scooterista 9 1215
Z50 26 1087
JDracer 99 1087
Lostboater 59 1070
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Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:47 pm quote
Day 6 is hump day. All down hill from here.
The standings are attached.

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Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:36 pm quote
cdwise wrote:
Well we have the first ticket of this year's cannonball.
Bummer!! That copper just wanted a closer look at that awesome Helix. 😊😊

Hang in there ya'll! Everyone is looking good from here.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:35 am quote
Day 6 Blog Posts

I think the top 5 is currently:
flyguy2        1703
Bigkart        1686
WLeuthold      1673
ClassicRider   1615
Motovista      1581
Bill/WLeuthold is exactly 30 out of first with 20 competitive legs left. BigKart's run in with the law helped loosen up 2nd. If BigKart skips the hotel coffee and doesn't need to stop and go wee wee... and carries enough aux fuel he can probably hold off Bill just enough but it will be very close. FlyGuy & Bill both need perfect execution over the next 5 days. No clue what could happen today since its the first day of elevation changes. In past Cannonballs long slow climb days have been dogs burning head scratching amounts of fuel and wear down top end just enough. The route starts today at 2600ft. The first 100 miles is a slow 1200 ft climb, then a 80 mile coast back down to near starting level and then a 3300ft climb over 70 miles to hit a max elevation of 5900, https://goo.gl/maps/k1N99dSsZe22 -- then a leisurely slide down to 4600 to end the day.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:03 am quote
Thanks for the re-caps Dave. Wish I was there, not in the cards for me this year.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:09 am quote
Just wait for HWY 14 through the Bighorn Mountains.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:57 am quote
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3300ft climb over 70 miles to hit a max elevation of 5900
The technical aspects are always fascinating! Seems like the 250's would dominate on climbing terrain with around 15 lbs-ft torque at 5000-6500 RPM . . as compared to the 155cc Yamaha Smax with 10 lbs-ft torque at 6000 RPM . . but then there's those pesky handicap equalizers to factor in.

Have to keep in mind that in 2014 a 108cc Honda Elite with 6.9 lbs-ft torque at 6250 RPM accumulated the most points.

Noticed the standings page has been updated through day 6. Excellent job by those doing this . . your efforts are much appreciated!
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:35 am quote
I kept a quick spreadsheet using the nearest GPS check-ins on a few riders going through the elevation climb between Red Shirt and Check Point 3...

From my math...
Rider         Red Shirt    CHK 3       Miles    Minutes   AVG MPH   ADJ AVG MPH
cdwise        09:36 AM     11:26 AM    99.4     110       54        42
lostboater    10:13 AM     12:10 PM    98.8     117       51        39
WLeuthold     10:37 AM     12:38 PM    105.0    121       52        46
ClassicRider  11:12 AM     13:12 PM    91.4     120       46        47
4n6iscool     10:53 AM     13:07 PM    104.0    134       47        36
ClassicRider has a 97% handicap, so it he is close enough to the baseline scooter... assuming both he and Bill were both competitively riding through this stretch would suggest that the handicap adjust is accurate?

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Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:40 am quote
Dave's YouTube synopsis videos...
Dave... It sucks that you couldn't ride this year.
I am missing your fast-forward ride route videos!!!

Although... I am saving money on the antiemetics! 😊
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:03 pm quote
Folks have been rolling in. So far all but one under its own power despite brutal winds and long grades or steep climbs. .

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Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:22 pm quote
cdwise wrote:
Folks have been rolling in. So far all but one under its own power despite brutal winds and long grades or steep climbs. .
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CD - do you find your experience with steep grades and mountain riding paying off during this race? Or does it all basically even out?

Can you see various riders different skills sets?

Just curious.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:53 pm quote
It was rider numbe 24 bman on Kymco Yager GT200i that came in on a truck.

Belkwinith there are better mountain riders, aka folks who really like and push it in the twisties than I do on this cannonball. There are skill set differences but they mostly show up in the technical riding stretches if the scoot they are riding can take advantage. Today with the combination of increasing elevation, strong winds and some tight twisties it probably came down more to what you were riding since even the best rider would be limited by their scoot. Bill and Matt both said they dropped to 30 at one point. I think I managed to stay in the upper 30s on the grades but where I'd normally run 82-83 when I took I-90 shortcut to the hotel I never managed over the low 70ss. Bill said he was mostly at 55 with the occasional 60. That makes John - Classic Rider's average speed exceptionally good especially for carb'd vintage. John has been having an amazing cannonball so far.

Matt 4in6iscool decided he wanted to see Devil's Tower so he headed out after his final cannonball checkin. He's leaving his spot on so you should see him way off the route on followride.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:59 pm quote
cdwise wrote:
It was rider numbe 24 bman on Kymco Yager GT200i that came in on a truck.

Belkwinith there are better mountain riders, aka folks who really like and push it in the twisties than I do on this cannonball. There are skill set differences but they mostly show up in the technical riding stretches if the scoot they are riding can take advantage. Today with the combination of increasing elevation, strong winds and some tight twisties it probably came down more to what you were riding since even the best rider would be limited by their scoot. Bill and Matt both said they dropped to 30 at one point. I think I managed to stay in the upper 30s on the grades but where I'd normally run 82-83 when I took I-90 shortcut to the hotel I never managed over the low 70ss. Bill said he was mostly at 55 with the occasional 60. That makes John - Classic Rider's average speed exceptionally good especially for carb'd vintage. John has been having an amazing cannonball so far.

Matt 4in6iscool decided he wanted to see Devil's Tower so he headed out after his final cannonball checkin. He's leaving his spot on so you should see him way off the route on followride.
Oh that explains it. I didn't think Matt would make that kind of navigation error.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:01 pm quote
So it seems that #58 Absurd Ruse is taking a side visit to Sturgis.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:14 pm quote
Enjoyed meeting the Cannonball 2016 riders and teams- hope you didn't run into as many gravel roads as we did riding down from Kansas City. Lots of closed roads. It was worth it to see everyone, Capt Gary most of all!

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Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:16 pm quote
The Seattle team- really great guys!

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Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:41 pm quote
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Ohhhhh how much do I miss Capt Gary.

He is my favourite Captain.

He is my only Captain.

Bill xxx
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:51 pm quote
Re: Voice
Bill Dog wrote:
Ohhhhh how much do I miss Capt Gary.

He is my favourite Captain.

He is my only Captain.

Bill xxx
I just had the pleasure of meeting Capt Gary over the last few days.
And I agree, he's tops.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:08 pm quote
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The Seattle team- really great guys!
https://www.facebook.com/highwaytohealride/ is lacking significant information about any Zuma 125 issues they have experienced. One post did reference "one very close call after a serious mechanical issue" . . but no context.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:22 pm quote
Turning in scores
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:23 pm quote
Missing photo last time.

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Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:56 pm quote
Gaff
Two more of my favourite people right there.

I'd like to tell you how kind they are.

1 Mark offered to organise a ride for me for this years Cannonball that I sadly had to decline.

2 Matt, who after he'd finished the Cannonball 2014 joined me for an Ironbutt to Dave's place then rode on New York, to then turn a round to pick me up from Pennsylvania to take me back to Newark Airport.

Amazing People.

Bill xxx
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:06 pm quote
day 8's ride has one hell of a climb. from 4000 to 9500 feet. this should really show case the bigger cc's. coming down hill be careful and don't heat those brakes up.
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:52 pm quote
Here are the daily results, sorted highest to lowest this time. Tomorrow another high milage day!

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Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:41 pm quote
Madison Sully wrote:
Just wait for HWY 14 through the Bighorn Mountains.
Hope the riders don't run into snow!
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Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:01 pm quote
WLeuthold wrote:
Bigkart got stopped by a state trooper one block from the hotel. He and that helix are a perfect pair.
that is where he made his mistake, should of rode all the way to the hotel then stop for the trooper. Would of saved at least 15minutes which is about 15pts.
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:19 am quote
Day 7 Blog Posts
Top 6 Riders:
Bigkart          2042
flyguy2          2011
Wleuthold        1994
Classic Rider    1939
Motovista        1867
cdwise           1822
Mister Big Kart... hoo dew think yew arrrrr.... Mister Big Kart.... Mister Big Kart catapulted himself into 1st while Bill/Wleuthold and Walt/Flyguy scrap today for 2nd. Neither FlyGuy or BigKart are using FollowRide or SPOTWalla so it's hard to follow the top three in near real time! As FlyGuy posted on Facebook "the 4 elements [that make the cannonball] are machine, driver, navigation and luck" -- all 4 of these elements are in play with the top 3 contenders. We'll just have to wait and see!

Leigh Rau had a great picture on Facebook of the dirt road section from yesterday @ http://bit.ly/29y0Wo1 - not sure how many riders took it but there is another dirt road section tomorrow on day 9.

Today is the longest day - 380 miles with a climb to 9000ft between checkpoints 1 and 2. More specifically the climb is between Ranchester, WY and Lovell, WY - https://goo.gl/maps/rZz56PR1Mam The weather forecast at the peak calls for light winds but temperatures 44'F at 9AM with a high of 54'F at 3PM. Winds increasing slightly to mid/lower teens towards the finish.

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Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:21 am quote
Did you see anything strange last night
I see you spend the night by Sleepy Hollow, did you see anything strange?

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Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:08 am quote
You guys and gals are racking up the miles.

I can't go 90 miles without my lower back and butt hurting me. I think the most I did in one day was 150 miles (lightweight!).

Anyone got some recommendations regarding how to NOT cripple yourself as you do this? ie. Back support, or how you ride?

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