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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:35 am quote
bual wrote:
tupelosue wrote:
Now what???
You know...
A month of sleep, depression, rehab... Then 2018!!!
Probably for most riders, but I know of at one nice red haired lady that will be riding her scooter home. Congrats to all and thanks for the entertainment.

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:55 am quote
Congratulations and total respect to each and everyone of you.

I enjoyed that if only from my laptop.

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:51 pm quote
Farthest total miles for a cannonball is Mike Smith since leaving California he picked up his son in Arkansas and will return to California via Arkansas to keep his son company for a total of approximately 11,000 miles. Others who left California with Mike are riding Mir or less straight back. Steve Hess started and will finish on Tulsa. I left Houston 2 weeks, 2 days and almost 6,000 miles ago. After a few days of rest I'll head back to Breck where I will meet my husband and be able to trailer the scooter the rest of the way. That lets me skip riding through Kansas or West Texas in July.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:05 pm quote
THANK YOU CBR SUPPORT TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!

You really can't run the CBR without support. A big thanks to Capt. Gary and Team Snail, Wendell and Team Hawaii, and my own Bocette and Kelly of Team Scooter Trash
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:01 pm quote
Congrats everyone! it was great following along and reading the blogs! Cheers!
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:15 pm quote
Good thing I decided the belt should be changed since these fell out and flatspots were found on the rollers.

Update now that I'm on my computer not phoneI had noticed something seemed not quite right occasionally on Friday and as I rode down to Andiamo Let's Go Vroom Vroom in Tacoma I had pretty much decided that it was a belt issue so figured that instead of just fluid change, tire swap and installing the new Malossi exhaust we should crack the case and swap belt/rollers. Knew as soon as it was opened there was a problem seeing the bits of the belt fall out. Didn't know it was the variator until Jason took it apart. You don't know how thankful I have been that I decided not to push it the last day or I expect I'd have had an explosion on my hands along with a DNF. Thought I might be stuck in Seattle waiting for a new variator to arrive but Jason had one in his shop - yeah. Everything other than the mirror is fixed. Since the stripped mirror is a reverse thread we weren't able to tap it. So zip ties, aka modern bailing wire is holding so far. I'll have to order both new mirrors and the part that they screw into for a complete repair but in the meantime I'm going to stop at Lowes or Home Depot and replenish my supply of zip ties. I knew if left the brackets for the DOT turn signals on the scooter for a reason when we replaced them with the European version.

A trip to the hardware store and another to Cycle Gear for a warmer pair of gloves to keep my hands warm on those mountain passes and I'll be ready to head home to Breckenridge tomorrow.

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:31 pm quote
Congratulations to everyone! It is my second cannonball in a manner of speaking helping from home. #58 AbsurdRuse (Gonzo). I was involved in the build of his cannonball scooters. The one he rode this year was originally built for 2012 but the frame was twisted jut enough not to notice until we test rode it, and too soon to the start to repair. It's been a fun couple of months building, testing, and ultimately seeing him on the road. It was a tumultuous race for Gonzo and his club mates at home. Many nights spent on facetime, millions of texts, and 4 overnighted care packages of parts I think, one overnighted package from an MV member too! Thanks to the folks over in NSM who helped us figure out what the hell was wrong too! The days that he ran his times were good, its too bad he spent 3 days on the trailer. Looking forward to hearing the stories, and seeing his frankenscoot come home. Also looking forward to 2018!
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:40 pm quote
Well looks like I was short distance from complete variator failure. Fortunately Jason had a new one in stock.

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:10 pm quote
cdwise wrote:
Good thing I decided the belt should be changed since these fell out and flatspots were found on the rollers
Yes, good call. Some riders changed belts en route as a matter of maintenance? Was yours relatively new at start?
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:15 pm quote
JoeP wrote:
Congratulations to everyone! It is my second cannonball in a manner of speaking helping from home. #58 AbsurdRuse (Gonzo). I was involved in the build of his cannonball scooters. The one he rode this year was originally built for 2012 but the frame was twisted jut enough not to notice until we test rode it, and too soon to the start to repair. It's been a fun couple of months building, testing, and ultimately seeing him on the road. It was a tumultuous race for Gonzo and his club mates at home. Many nights spent on facetime, millions of texts, and 4 overnighted care packages of parts I think, one overnighted package from an MV member too! Thanks to the folks over in NSM who helped us figure out what the hell was wrong too! The days that he ran his times were good, its too bad he spent 3 days on the trailer. Looking forward to hearing the stories, and seeing his frankenscoot come home. Also looking forward to 2018!
I wondered where the care packages were coming from. Job well done! The blogs about Gonzos trials were a bit of a heartbreaker. Do you guys have a place where you post all your recaps and lessons learned? I put SCB on my bucket list, so I'm officially in info gathering mode.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:21 pm quote
ScooterRaton wrote:
THANK YOU CBR SUPPORT TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!

You really can't run the CBR without support. A big thanks to Capt. Gary and Team Snail, Wendell and Team Hawaii, and my own Bocette and Kelly of Team Scooter Trash
Absolutely! Do most people have personal support? Wondering how a future CBR participant would go about being picked up by a supported team. Is there an official draft process? Support for hire? I once was on a support team in an across-state bicycle ride and it was quite exhilarating. We were happy to help keep the teams going.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:22 pm quote
PrimaBlanco1 wrote:
JoeP wrote:
Congratulations to everyone! It is my second cannonball in a manner of speaking helping from home. #58 AbsurdRuse (Gonzo). I was involved in the build of his cannonball scooters. The one he rode this year was originally built for 2012 but the frame was twisted jut enough not to notice until we test rode it, and too soon to the start to repair. It's been a fun couple of months building, testing, and ultimately seeing him on the road. It was a tumultuous race for Gonzo and his club mates at home. Many nights spent on facetime, millions of texts, and 4 overnighted care packages of parts I think, one overnighted package from an MV member too! Thanks to the folks over in NSM who helped us figure out what the hell was wrong too! The days that he ran his times were good, its too bad he spent 3 days on the trailer. Looking forward to hearing the stories, and seeing his frankenscoot come home. Also looking forward to 2018!
I wondered where the care packages were coming from. Job well done! The blogs about Gonzos trials were a bit of a heartbreaker. Do you guys have a place where you post all your recaps and lessons learned? I put SCB on my bucket list, so I'm officially in info gathering mode. :lol:
We just post to our club FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/NOLAScootCoop/
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:14 pm quote
JoeP wrote:
PrimaBlanco1 wrote:
JoeP wrote:
Congratulations to everyone! It is my second cannonball in a manner of speaking helping from home. #58 AbsurdRuse (Gonzo). I was involved in the build of his cannonball scooters. The one he rode this year was originally built for 2012 but the frame was twisted jut enough not to notice until we test rode it, and too soon to the start to repair. It's been a fun couple of months building, testing, and ultimately seeing him on the road. It was a tumultuous race for Gonzo and his club mates at home. Many nights spent on facetime, millions of texts, and 4 overnighted care packages of parts I think, one overnighted package from an MV member too! Thanks to the folks over in NSM who helped us figure out what the hell was wrong too! The days that he ran his times were good, its too bad he spent 3 days on the trailer. Looking forward to hearing the stories, and seeing his frankenscoot come home. Also looking forward to 2018!
I wondered where the care packages were coming from. Job well done! The blogs about Gonzos trials were a bit of a heartbreaker. Do you guys have a place where you post all your recaps and lessons learned? I put SCB on my bucket list, so I'm officially in info gathering mode.
We just post to our club FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/NOLAScootCoop/
Thanks! Yes, that was one of the pages I was following thru a link on the SCB page.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:23 pm quote
I have followed every Scooter Cannonball since the first one in 2004. I am a huge fan and in total awe of those who have what it takes to prepare, plan, finance, compete, enjoy, and especially do it more than once. Congratulations to all who completed and supported this epic event.

I really want to thank all that took the time to blog and post so we could get our daily Cannonball fix. Now how long must we wait to find out the final scores?
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:01 pm quote
And after a bit of delay and chasing down riders we finally have the final results.

Pretty remarkable the number of scooters that made the trip without issue, or at the very least were able to be repaired on the side of the road.

Job well done to all the riders and the support teams, this was certainly the longest cannonball ever.

As a group we rode over 112,000 miles. That is awesome, no scooter slackers here.

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:42 pm quote
PrimaBlanco1 wrote:
cdwise wrote:
Good thing I decided the belt should be changed since these fell out and flatspots were found on the rollers
Yes, good call. Some riders changed belts en route as a matter of maintenance? Was yours relatively new at start?
Not new at all but as far as I know the original but it was checked when the belt and rollers were changed prior to departure for Florida and there were no discernable issues then.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:55 pm quote
cdwise wrote:
Good thing I decided the belt should be changed since these fell out and flatspots were found on the rollers
Good thing and seems amazing you made it like that, bet you were surprised .
I don't even want to think about you heading back to Colorado like that.

I took the liberty of grabbing a screenshot of the results.
Could somebody please add a column listing the scooter each rider was on?
Thanks!

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:00 pm quote
Maroy is the only one who has the complete accurate list of who rode what but if you look at the updates page on http://scootercannonball.com the scooter are basically accurate.
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Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:08 pm quote
Thank you!

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Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:35 pm quote
ctoper is riding a Helix but I don't know what yaar
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Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:05 pm quote
I was riding a 2009 GTS 250 Super, dunno what that asterisk is about.
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Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:26 pm quote
BigKart was on a 1986 Helix wasn't he? Listed as Reflex?
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Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:30 pm quote
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BigKart was on a 1986 Helix wasn't he? Listed as Reflex?
Correct, he was one of several who showed up on different scoots than the originally registered with. You can switch all the way up to the start as long as it meets the definition of an allowed cannonball scooter.
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:04 am quote
So who won? Lowest number or highest? Congrats to everybody. Well done.
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:22 am quote
judy wrote:
So who won? Lowest number or highest? Congrats to everybody. Well done.
See Voodoo's post (Sun July 17, 1:55AM) a few posts upthread. The finishing order is on the far left. Highest points on the right side column wins the rally. This recap is ordered from best to last.
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:56 am quote
Initial riders list . . final results.
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Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:08 am quote
Cool. Thanks guys.
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Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:31 am quote
The FollowRide primary map has been updated to plot all of the past Cannonball routes since 2008!

http://followride.com

(If anyone has a GPS file for 2006, please PM me)
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Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:36 am quote
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The FollowRide primary map has been updated to plot all of the past Cannonball routes since 2008!

http://followride.com

(If anyone has a GPS file for 2006, please PM me)
That is cool. Thanks. I know what routes for the last three years. What year was blue and what was yellow?
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Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:35 am quote
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feb31st wrote:
The FollowRide primary map has been updated to plot all of the past Cannonball routes since 2008!

http://followride.com

(If anyone has a GPS file for 2006, please PM me)
That is cool. Thanks. I know what routes for the last three years. What year was blue and what was yellow?
Yellow = 2008
Blue = 2010

And 2006 was Pacific City, OR to Allentown, PA (Scooters Originali)
And 2004 was Virginia Beach, VA to Hollywood, CA (NoHo Scooters)
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Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:21 am quote
mrmoi2000 wrote:
stickyfrog wrote:
feb31st wrote:
The FollowRide primary map has been updated to plot all of the past Cannonball routes since 2008!

http://followride.com

(If anyone has a GPS file for 2006, please PM me)
That is cool. Thanks. I know what routes for the last three years. What year was blue and what was yellow?
Yellow = 2008
Blue = 2010

And 2006 was Pacific City, OR to Allentown, PA (Scooters Originali)
And 2004 was Virginia Beach, VA to Hollywood, CA (NoHo Scooters)
If someone could even recreate 2004 and 2006 on a google map and send the link I can back that into a GPX -> lat/long track
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Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:03 pm quote
Can you piece 2006 from this?:
http://cannonballblog2006.blogspot.com
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Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:07 pm quote
Well I've arrived safely home to Breckenridge. Scoot is in the garage with its siblings and I'm getting to deal with the after effects of a lightening hit while I was gone. Surge protectors for refrigerator died so it didn't recycle back on so now I have one stinky mess, a UPS gave its life protecting a TV, cable box and Roku. While the other TV will power up but with a black screen though everything else on the UPS continues to work as does the computer stuff.

Now to figure out if I can get the stink out of the frig. Was told by the repairman who lives just a couple blocks from me that bears have been particularly aggressive lately breaking into garages and causing some of the camp sites to be closed. Been wetter than usual so maybe their more typical food sources are lagging behind, who knows.

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I avoided dirt almost completely on the cannonball only to get 47 miles of it today courtesy of my GPS - despite being set to avoid off-road conditions, grr.

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Then more of it with road construction on Colorado 9.

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Debated about stopping for lunch at one of my favorite semi-local cafes with this cloud hanging around. I did and it was a good thing since it started hailing while I ate but was done by the time I finished.

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Tucked up with siblings.

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Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:22 pm quote
Sounds like a LOOONNNGGG trip. Welcome home! Congrats on you successful ride.

Best
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Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:52 pm quote
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Sounds like a LOOONNNGGG trip. Welcome home! Congrats on you successful ride.
It was but won't the longest ride by a cannonball rider. That "honor" goes to Mike Smith who left from southern California went to Florida by way of Arkansas to pick up his son ( ctoper) and is riding back from the finish to Arkansas with his son before retuning to California. So I think his total will be something like 11,000 miles this cannonball trip.
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Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:51 am quote
A couple of basic graphs which show the effects of the Handicap system. Also shown are the Raw Average Speeds and the Corrected Average Speeds and the Points earned for the day.

If A Red data point is above a corresponding Blue i.e. Rider 58, 14, or 9 then the rider is probably on a Vintage Scooter with a handicap less than 100. If the Blue data point is way above the Red Data point then the rider is probably on a modern 250 with a handicap around 120 i.e. Rider 3 and 12

In general the points line (Green) should follow Corrected MPH line but this is not always the case. Consider rider 56 on day 1. The rider only averaged 29 MPH and yet received the same amount of points as somebody that averaged about 44 MPH (Corrected) The reason for this is that Rider 56 did extremely well on 3 out of the 4 legs on day one. One Leg the rider broke down and it took about 401 minutes to get moving again. So the corrected average speed is low and the overall performance for three legs is hidden. Doing badly or breaking down on one leg will not put a rider out of the competitions which is by design.

The other anomaly for the points line is that no matter how long a rider stays in the field, they are always guaranteed to get half the points if they hit all the checkpoints. This is best seen on day 1 where many riders scored 171 points.

(Rider number is along the bottom of each graph)

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Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:14 pm quote
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another great cannonball for all. loved following everyone this year and saying hi at day 2 check 2.
Way past fashionably late

It kills me that by the time I passed through CP2 you and everybody else were long gone. Any way we can complete a sticker transaction via USPS?
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:37 am quote
If you had meat in the fridge, just throw it out. You will never get the smell out, the liquid drips into the insulation and you can't get to it.

When traveling, if you leave meat in the freezer put it in sealed containers so if you do have a power outage no liquid will get into the insulation.
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:01 am quote
Raw Times
If anyone is still interested, raw times were posted a few days ago.
Bigkart should have finished on top but a belt break and not knowing that he could simply restart cost him more than the final difference.
But I will take it.

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Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:42 am quote
FWIW, if you are interested in 2018 suggested routes are being posted at http://www.scootercannonball.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=45
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