rut-roh, might have to ditch the BV for this Honda beast..
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Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:11 pm quote
745cc, 54hp, 50tq.. twin radial front disc, alumi swing arm... monster scoot:
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/honda-x-adv-adventure-scooter-coming/

i mean, if it gets 65mpg and will take side bags, etc., there's reason no reason to stick with a lower cc'd scooter?

previous thread here: What you'll get when you mixed a scrambler and a scooter?

looks like it's really coming.
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Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:20 pm quote
Re: rut-roh, might have to ditch the BV for this Honda beast
tonyc wrote:
745cc, 54hp, 50tq.. twin radial front disc, alumi swing arm... monster scoot:
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/honda-x-adv-adventure-scooter-coming/

i mean, if it gets 65mpg and will take side bags, etc., there's reason no reason to stick with a lower cc'd scooter?

previous thread here: What you'll get when you mixed a scrambler and a scooter?

looks like it's really coming.
Oh, my!
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Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:22 pm quote
I wonder if Honda is planning on bringing those to the US. (probably not)
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Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:24 pm quote
You can bet the US will never see this scooter, so don't go selling your BV just yet
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Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:25 pm quote
WEB-Tech wrote:
You can bet the US will never see this scooter.
UGH nevermind. Just noticed the Integra never made it into the U.S. either..

I was sooo friggin excited for a second. my female friends would've never laughed at my "Scooter" again.
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Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:13 pm quote


That is an awesome scoot. Please, please, please bring it to the U.S. (Wishful thinking...)
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Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:20 pm quote
Looks a lot more comfortable then the NC.
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Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:56 pm quote
Considering that the Navi never left India (think dual-sport Grom with a CVT), the Integra never crossed the pond, and tons of other Honda products have never seen these shores. TBH, I don't think it would sell well here. I wish it were otherwise.
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Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:27 pm quote
Looks like they are taking the lead from BMW C600. Wonder where the sticker is going to fall.
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Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:39 pm quote
Skunkhome wrote:
Looks like they are taking the lead from BMW C600. Wonder where the sticker is going to fall.
Up.
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:47 am quote
Re: rut-roh, might have to ditch the BV for this Honda beast
tonyc wrote:
i mean, if it gets 65mpg and will take side bags, etc., there's reason no reason to stick with a lower cc'd scooter?

Yes, there is. Much lower weight, no chain to take care of. The BV can already speed enough to lose one's driver's licence, so what would more HP help with?
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:12 am quote
After pushing the NC750 around my garage for a couple weeks I can say it's not the HP, but the lb that matters.
Still love the NC, but there's definite trade-offs
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:30 am quote
Re: rut-roh, might have to ditch the BV for this Honda beast
Michael B. wrote:
tonyc wrote:
i mean, if it gets 65mpg and will take side bags, etc., there's reason no reason to stick with a lower cc'd scooter?

Yes, there is. Much lower weight, no chain to take care of. The BV can already speed enough to lose one's driver's licence, so what would more HP help with?
At my age it's called compensation.
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:24 am quote
breaknwind wrote:
Looks a lot more comfortable then the NC.
I believe the new 2016 NC750X is far more comfortable than the old NC. I might be looking for a new bike later on this year and the new NC750X is near the top of my list. I'd love to see the new Honda Bulldog but I'm starting to give up waiting and I suspect it will be too small for me anyway. The Triumph street twin is also quite tempting.

Weirdly all these bikes have bigger engines and go faster than the GTS but they all return better MPG??? They also have longer tank ranges and have much longer service intervals. The real benefit to me though is that I can park it in London and not have to worry about some spotty kids stealing it.

Of course most of these bikes are more expensive too
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:02 am quote
really excited for this bike. Time to convince the other half that its not a motorcycle!
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Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:39 am quote
looks like the passenger seat to foot peg position would work for my wife. thats all it would take for me to switch from the gts.
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:13 am quote
I'm strangely attracted to this thing.... perhaps I should be worried. It would need a top box for sure, but I like it.

I treat my BV as regular transport, weather permitting, so a more capable, more comfortable scoot has appeal.

Availability and price notwithstanding. I hope north america does get it too.
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Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:08 pm quote
Visordown say's.

"The Integra, with the same engine and frame, costs £8,149 and the City Adventure (or ADV or X-ADV, whatever the final name turns out to be) has a higher spec and more toys. Could it be the world’s first £10k scooter? Don’t bet against it."

Isn't that about $13,000-$14,000. I'd have to buy a Zero instead.
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Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:07 am quote
The £10k scooter has been around for ages. TMax, BMW,....
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Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:04 am quote
Here’s an interesting vid from Japan. It’s long, but gives lots of close up component views.

After watching this, is it a scooter or a motorcycle? Think Honda may have nailed this one with a true crossover.

Yes, I want one! (No, not the girl)

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Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:38 am quote
I'd argue that at 750cc and not step through, it's clearly a motorcycle (even though a scooter is a motorcycle). Wikipedia says "A scooter or motor scooter is a motorcycle with step-through frame and a platform for the rider's feet. " I don't know what the largest displacement scooter is (maybe 650?) but it seems like this Honda is a bit too big to be called a scooter. Still...the feet do have a platform but so do some Harleys.
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Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:46 am quote
Looks interesting. Looks like a lot of $$$.

DCT or CVT??

DCT, it's a disguised NC750. CVT, why bother??
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Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:48 pm quote
EN82pg wrote:
DCT or CVT??
DCT. In other words, yes it is an NC750 with some cosmetic changes. If you can't get it in the US, and you are dying for an auto adventure bike - get the NC750. Though, I hope you are fairly tall because the high sitting position will make it a difficult ride for those who are vertically challenged.
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Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:10 pm quote
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I'd argue that at 750cc and not step through, it's clearly a motorcycle (even though a scooter is a motorcycle). Wikipedia says "A scooter or motor scooter is a motorcycle with step-through frame and a platform for the rider's feet. " I don't know what the largest displacement scooter is (maybe 650?) but it seems like this Honda is a bit too big to be called a scooter. Still...the feet do have a platform but so do some Harleys.
harley made a scooter back in the 60's with a step thru frame but todays parleys are not step thru frames so they are motorcycles. this Honda meets the step thru frame design to be call a scooter. Its just a Maxi class, like a Burgman or a BV500 or Tmax or the Aprilia SRV 850 and the Gilera GP800 and lets not forget the BMW 650's
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Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:59 pm quote
I want to like some version of the Honda 700/750 DCT platform. However, I just don't care for them - for a bike that size, I want something with more storage and a way to have a feet forward riding position.
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Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:59 pm quote
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this Honda meets the step thru frame design to be call a scooter. Its just a Maxi class, like a Burgman or a BV500 or Tmax or the Aprilia SRV 850 and the Gilera GP800 and lets not forget the BMW 650's
Except the photo makes it appear as though it has the highest step through ever. I realize all maxi scoots have something of a tunnel for the backbone of the frame, but the "tunnel" of this Honda comes clear up to the seat. Wouldn't it be easier to throw your leg over the back than to awkwardly lift your foot that high in front of you?
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Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:02 pm quote
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old as dirt wrote:
this Honda meets the step thru frame design to be call a scooter. Its just a Maxi class, like a Burgman or a BV500 or Tmax or the Aprilia SRV 850 and the Gilera GP800 and lets not forget the BMW 650's
Except the photo makes it appear as though it has the highest step through ever. I realize all maxi scoots have something of a tunnel for the backbone of the frame, but the "tunnel" of this Honda comes clear up to the seat. Wouldn't it be easier to throw your leg over the back than to awkwardly lift your foot that high in front of you?
Yeah...more like step OVER.
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Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:08 pm quote
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old as dirt wrote:
this Honda meets the step thru frame design to be call a scooter. Its just a Maxi class, like a Burgman or a BV500 or Tmax or the Aprilia SRV 850 and the Gilera GP800 and lets not forget the BMW 650's
Except the photo makes it appear as though it has the highest step through ever. I realize all maxi scoots have something of a tunnel for the backbone of the frame, but the "tunnel" of this Honda comes clear up to the seat. Wouldn't it be easier to throw your leg over the back than to awkwardly lift your foot that high in front of you?
no different then the Aprilia, Gilera, BMW or the Tmax.
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Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:04 pm quote
I like it, but.....

It has to have enough storage for emergency supply's and lunch B4 I think about replacing my commuter scooter.
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Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:52 pm quote
flordian wrote:
Here’s an interesting vid from Japan. It’s long, but gives lots of close up component views.

After watching this, is it a scooter or a motorcycle? Think Honda may have nailed this one with a true crossover.

Yes, I want one! (No, not the girl)

Like it very much, question - What is the 2nd cable operated calliper on the rear disc at 3 min 19 sec? Parking brake?
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Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:17 pm quote
It will be about as affordable as the DN01.
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Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:26 am quote
Re: rut-roh, might have to ditch the BV for this Honda beast
flordian wrote:
Michael B. wrote:
tonyc wrote:
i mean, if it gets 65mpg and will take side bags, etc., there's reason no reason to stick with a lower cc'd scooter?

Yes, there is. Much lower weight, no chain to take care of. The BV can already speed enough to lose one's driver's licence, so what would more HP help with?
At my age it's called compensation.
Do you not fancy the Africa Twin?

This bike that will actually be able to do the off road stuff instead of looking like it. DCT and 95hp. Yes please.
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Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:59 am quote
Look at that seat, and how sloped that is. I hope they fix that.
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Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:26 am quote
Hmm. Secondhand ones should be coming on to the market just about when I'm ready to replace the Integra...
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Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:53 am quote
Until another manufacturer comes up with something even better then this is a definate bike for me.
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Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:09 pm quote
The seat looks GREAT !

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Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:44 am quote
If the NC 700 had enough room between the seat and pegs I'd own one already. If this "scooter" has the leg room, which it looks like it does and a DCT, my Vespa is up for sale.

But then I live in the US, so I won't hold my breath.
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Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:00 pm quote
TN_Sooner wrote:
I want to like some version of the Honda 700/750 DCT platform. However, I just don't care for them - for a bike that size, I want something with more storage and a way to have a feet forward riding position.
The CTX700 has a forward foot position, low seat height and can have saddle bags attached.

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Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:38 pm quote
old as dirt wrote:
Paddlenround wrote:
I'd argue that at 750cc and not step through, it's clearly a motorcycle (even though a scooter is a motorcycle). Wikipedia says "A scooter or motor scooter is a motorcycle with step-through frame and a platform for the rider's feet. " I don't know what the largest displacement scooter is (maybe 650?) but it seems like this Honda is a bit too big to be called a scooter. Still...the feet do have a platform but so do some Harleys.
harley made a scooter back in the 60's with a step thru frame but todays parleys are not step thru frames so they are motorcycles. this Honda meets the step thru frame design to be call a scooter. Its just a Maxi class, like a Burgman or a BV500 or Tmax or the Aprilia SRV 850 and the Gilera GP800 and lets not forget the BMW 650's
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