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Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:38 am quote
koenig blues wrote:
Thanks guys, today i escort the senior rider on a turing from bogor to banten around 150km, been a while since i ride in big group (21 vespa) and it sure does fun and lots of smile

Hope everyone have a nice weekend and cheer



I am too focus eating the durian so no big smile



This exotic and infamous fruit has fascinated me for a long time and I really wanna try some. If E beth likes it, WCGW?

Google wrote:
Does durian taste good?
Durian is a strange combination of savory, sweet, and creamy all at once. A durian is supposed to have subtle hints of chives mixed with powdered sugar. It's supposed to taste like diced garlic and caramel poured into whipped cream. ... Durian is different (in a good way).

Why is the durian fruit banned?
Due to its overpowering smell, durian has been banned on many types of public transport across Thailand, Japan and Hong Kong. In Singapore, the fruit is banned across all types of public transportation and even taxis have signs to let you know they refuse to carry passengers transporting the smelly fruit.

What does durian smell like?
its odor is best described as pig-shit, turpentine and onions, garnished with a gym sock. It can be smelled from yards away. ... The wide range of descriptions for the odour of durian may have a great deal to do with the variability of durian odour itself.
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Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:19 am quote
Looks a lot like jackfruit, that I knew from South Florida growing up.
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Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:43 pm quote
It taste sweet but expensive and more like a strawbery gambel sometime u get sweet some were plain and some were like wine (u can tell from my serious mimic) the fruit itself can cause a high blood tension if u eat alot, some folks can get drunk for eating to many even i can only taste 1 zip of the fruit itself as i have to stay focus to escort the pack

Durian result, one member fall out of his vespa on a straight empty road but no furher damage to the vespa nor the rider beside lil pride from a 69yo cause everyone laugh that he was drunk for eating too many durian

Now everyone is sleeping after resting in a local hot spring

Ps: Brother Mike aka Wasp, some of the senior rider from portugis (petualang tua gila skuter aka old adventure crazy scooter) said hi to you

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The destination

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The durian victims

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Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:14 pm quote
Durian has a ‘distinctive’ smell... there’s a (supposedly true) story where a village got all their durian and mashed them up and laid it outside to ward of an invading army (and it worked).

Durian chips are ridiculous good if you can find them. It is very custardy and intense.
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Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:44 am quote
The smell is what make folks get drunk i suppose

Just reach home and my wife suprise seeing me bulking up a bit of muscle, since the mountain road is bumpy and i have a very stiff bike guess it make my body work out before i know it, another bonus point from the trip

Here's some pics when we wrap things up and head home, hope it encourage everyone, have a nice march and cheer

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Wrap things up

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I have to admit that this black px is well build, my pink is nothing compare to it, and the red one is so speedy

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Bulking up ebeth aka stiff mucles :lol:

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Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:17 pm quote
The red bike
Its hard to tell but is that a headlight in the horncast?
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Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:10 pm quote
Great pics!
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Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:08 pm quote
Durian is delicious! Different than any fruit us westerners are familiar with.
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Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:02 am quote
if possible i would like to see some more closeup pictures of the black one.

that front wheel is intriguing, i wonder what the back looks like
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Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:03 am quote
Re: The red bike
Roliver1972 wrote:
Its hard to tell but is that a headlight in the horncast?
it is, its a old trend here, using the p200 horncast and open up the horn and replace with a small headlight from a car foglamp
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Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:09 am quote
Gravelrash2004 wrote:
if possible i would like to see some more closeup pictures of the black one.

that front wheel is intriguing, i wonder what the back looks like
the black px using a local adaptor similar like sip sold and using a auto vespa rims, thats why i said he built it much much better then me

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Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:19 pm quote
Re: The red bike
koenig blues wrote:
Roliver1972 wrote:
Its hard to tell but is that a headlight in the horncast?
it is, its a old trend here, using the p200 horncast and open up the horn and replace with a small headlight from a car foglamp
Kindacool! But what's going on w/ the headset? Is it a fat beak, like a bird? Do you have a view from the side?

Not sure I'm a fan.

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Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:19 am quote
im going to use that little mod with the foglight - which are the best or easiest to fit?
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:27 am quote
I blew up my Stella motor yesterday afternoon

Was testing the fuel pump flow, revved it out on the stand to see if it would get fuel-startved, and while it didn't lean out, it did hard seize.

I'll open it up sometime over the next few days and figure out what's up, but right now, I'm guessing the top end will be a total writeoff.



Of note:
fuel flow with the pump was 10oz in 40 seconds. without, it was 10oz in 60 seconds.

The knowledge was not worth the price.
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:59 am quote
That is terrible news Chandlerman. Sucks it happened now. I just placed an order with SIP which is on its way, so at least for now parts supply is still available. Hopefully you don't need a ton of stuff and scooterworks has what you need. Sip still shipping also.
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:07 am quote
Yeah, I'm pretty irritated with myself right now.

It uses a BGM-177, which comes from ScooterCenter, or sometimes ScooterWest will have them in stock.

I might look at other to end options, but I've been really happy with the BGM when I'm not messing it up.

Even worse, the testing was getting ready to fit my PM Tuning pipe over the weekend.

Now, I guess I'll pull the motor and give it a power wash and a full once-over, pressure test, etc.
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:09 am quote
All hope is not lost...

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Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:30 am quote
Strike that, at least for NY. State just locked down mandated 100% non essential work force stay home. FedEx I doubt is essential. Sip box in limbo for the foreseeable future.
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:32 am quote
Gravelrash2004 wrote:
im going to use that little mod with the foglight - which are the best or easiest to fit?
A Baja Designs S2 LED fit darn near perfectly in the PX 150 horn cast grill. I'll have to post of some pictures.

https://www.bajadesigns.com/products/S2-Pro.asp Their "PRO" version uses 21 watts, and their "SPORT" version uses 12 watts. Even their Sport version is super bright.
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:51 am quote
It's really, most sincerely dead.

I cleaned off the smeared aluminum with muriatic acid and there were several spots where the nicasil was gone.

Also, some detonation, so need to retard the timing a few more degrees. It was revved out to 11,700 RPM's when I killed it.

New BGM-177 on order. We'll see when it shows up.

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Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:14 am quote
chandlerman wrote:
It's really, most sincerely dead.

I cleaned off the smeared aluminum with muriatic acid and there were several spots where the nicasil was gone.

Also, some detonation, so need to retard the timing a few more degrees. It was revved out to 11,700 RPM's when I killed it.

New BGM-177 on order. We'll see when it shows up.
Darn it too bad dang those BGM's have a large exhaust port it seems. Hope the new one arrives soon.
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:21 am quote
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Darn it too bad dang those BGM's have a large exhaust port it seems. Hope the new one arrives soon.
I just hope it gets here before the end of the world. Scooter-Center was closed for the day by the time I ordered, so no confirmation number until at least Monday, I expect. Who know how UPS will do once it's ready to ship, either.
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:47 am quote
Re: The red bike
V oodoo wrote:
koenig blues wrote:
Roliver1972 wrote:
Its hard to tell but is that a headlight in the horncast?
it is, its a old trend here, using the p200 horncast and open up the horn and replace with a small headlight from a car foglamp
Kindacool! But what's going on w/ the headset? Is it a fat beak, like a bird? Do you have a view from the side?

Not sure I'm a fan.
nope, but i seen it alot in early 2000, they bend and put some cover just the way they want it
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:49 am quote
whodatschrome wrote:
Gravelrash2004 wrote:
im going to use that little mod with the foglight - which are the best or easiest to fit?
A Baja Designs S2 LED fit darn near perfectly in the PX 150 horn cast grill. I'll have to post of some pictures.

https://www.bajadesigns.com/products/S2-Pro.asp Their "PRO" version uses 21 watts, and their "SPORT" version uses 12 watts. Even their Sport version is super bright.
yup, this is one will do the trick although folks here just use a car foglamp that happen to have the same size with the horn cover
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:54 am quote
chandlerman wrote:
It's really, most sincerely dead.

I cleaned off the smeared aluminum with muriatic acid and there were several spots where the nicasil was gone.

Also, some detonation, so need to retard the timing a few more degrees. It was revved out to 11,700 RPM's when I killed it.

New BGM-177 on order. We'll see when it shows up.
sorry to hear this Brother C, i am fond for bgm as its just a plug and play but with the curse of nikasil (hell yeah like i am a genius in this ) can u try to put a diesel cylinder sleeves in there? i was thinking for several weeks about how to fix a dead cylinder, but never try though it will applied to a aluminuim nicasil cylinder, still i will try it if i have the stuff cheaper then buying new cylinder

until then good luck on fixing the stella and cheer
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:32 pm quote
chandlerman wrote:
It's really, most sincerely dead.

I cleaned off the smeared aluminum with muriatic acid and there were several spots where the nicasil was gone.

Also, some detonation, so need to retard the timing a few more degrees. It was revved out to 11,700 RPM's when I killed it.

New BGM-177 on order. We'll see when it shows up.
Ahrrghh!! That sucks so much! Sorry to hear that Chandlerman. When you are fanging it up a mountain perhaps you kind of justify the seize to yourself, but on the stand! It's a bit harder to take well...

Do you think perhaps the nicasil was already worn to some extent and you simply tipped it over the edge with your

11,700!!!

rpms?

That is very impressive! What sort of revs are (were) you able to get to on the street? Have you done a (GSF) dyno test recently you can show?
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:20 pm quote
Quote:
I blew up my Stella motor yesterday afternoon

Was testing the fuel pump flow, revved it out on the stand to see if it would get fuel-startved, and while it didn't lean out, it did hard seize.
That sucks.
Having recently been on a blow up your motor buy a new cylinder binge - I know where one is new in stock - state side.
PM me if you wanna - I can probably help make sure its at a good price.
Reputable shop.

-CM

*edit - scratch that - didn't see you had already ordered.
Seize on wall above exhaust - will bet you will fine a matching scar if not a bit smaller - on the other side above boost port.

Experienced similar - heat related oblong expansion - piston expands perpendicular to the piston pin (piston pin direction is more stable). Would say not related to ex. port width tho. One man's post mortem opinion.

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Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:27 pm quote
How many miles was on that motor chandler? So clean you still see the laser etched exhaust arrow on the piston.
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:50 am quote
The piston was relatively new. I replaced it after the crank failed and nuked the piston along with it back in September, so six months, but not a ton of miles because I mostly ride the Winter Scooter (Stella w/ lap blanket, snow tires, milder tune) while the weather is crap.

It would make about 10,600 RPM's on the street. I never got it to that in 4th gear because I'd get spooked going that fast, but it could run that fast in 3rd and I'd seen 75 on the GPS in 4th and still pulling strong a couple times when I got off the throttle.

The cylinder itself was a couple years old, I think. That was actually the third piston. I blew the first one up once when I misread the stamping on a main jet and went 10 points too small when I needed to go two. That was also when I bought a magnifying glass for the garage.

I was able to clean the smeared aluminum off the cylinder with muriatic acid that time and there was a tiny bit of damage to the nicasil below the exhaust port, but I ran with that without issue.

I've been digging around for the better part of half an hour trying to find the dyno's I generated for it without luck .

It was about 26HP, though, with a nice wide power band. Last summer, we had a little meet-up and I was a little faster than a PX there with a Malossi MHR on it that'd been dyno'ed like two weeks before at 24HP.

So a sad day at Casa Chandlerman, but neither the first nor the last day like that in my life, I expect.
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:27 pm quote
After putting it off for 5 years, started the job of swapping out the shift cable housings on the GS

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Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:07 pm quote
I thought I'd broken everything that could be broken on a Vespa. I was proved wrong yesterday of course...
oopsclunkthud wrote:
After putting it off for 5 years, started the job of swapping out the shift cable housings on the GS
Like the 2002!

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Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:42 am quote
Rang my favourite scooter shop to see if he was being abandoned by his clientelle in this time of pandemic...... said you would have thought so, but everyone seems to be taking the opportunity to complete there builds

so not all bad news out there
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:15 am quote
Full steam ahead, capt’n!
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:21 am quote
Kick myself for not shooting a picture every time I've been here, framing it, and lining my office or garage wall with it in a seasonal order.

Any chance this pic is familiar to anyone else...?

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Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:27 am quote
Not to me - I wrestle the scoot up in my truck by myself. But I'm not riding nearly as much as I used to.
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:56 am quote
charlieman22 wrote:
Kick myself for not shooting a picture every time I've been here, framing it, and lining my office or garage wall with it in a seasonal order.

Any chance this pic is familiar to anyone else...?
dear lord, so many times... Once back in the late 90's i couldn't quite fit my Honda Elite 50 in the back of my Ford Escort 2 door hunchback, so i just lifted the front tire just over the rear bumber, and into the back of the hatch. While my sister drove the car, i was stitting on the scooter's seat hanging onto the handle of the hatchback. The rear tire of the scooter was still rollling on the pavement! We probably drove for about 5 miles like that. We got up to about 35mph. Anything over that and the rear tire would start to get speed wobbles!

Most of the time instead of calling AAA, i resort to a tow strap first. I pulled a friends klr650 with my ktm950 at 60mph for about 30 miles down a highway once (and once was enough)! A friend and i have "linked" our pant's belts together in order to flat tow his P125 for quite a few miles.

There's also sitting waaaaay forwards on the seat and "stiff leg" your leg way out in front of you to push the scooter in front of you. Done that for miles and miles as well. I ended up doing that techniqe to a little MG roadster in downtown PDX some years back with my P2. The MG broke down, and it was 2 miles back into their shop. The passenger started pushing the car to get momentum (while i was pushing on the rear bumper with my foot), once we got up to about 5mph, i yelled at the passenger to hop back in the car. Soon i got the car up to about 20mph! I kept that up for about 2 miles (my leg felt dead after 1 miles). Luckily the road was straight, and with one last power shove of my leg, the car coasted around a corner and into the guys shop! The guys were super stoked on the whole Italian situation.

The point is, where there's a will, there's a way!
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:24 pm quote
Whodat!!

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Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:49 pm quote
whodatschrome wrote:
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There's also sitting waaaaay forwards on the seat and "stiff leg" your leg way out in front of you to push the scooter in front of you. ...
The point is, where there's a will, there's a way!


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My pal Kosta doing same a couple weeks ago, but a huge Triumph and he's on a little motorbike.
This is pretty much on the level, but it was slight uphill at first and fun to get it all rolling together.

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Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:29 pm quote
Quote:
Most of the time instead of calling AAA, i resort to a tow strap first. I pulled a friends klr650 with my ktm950 at 60mph for about 30 miles down a highway once (and once was enough)! A friend and i have "linked" our pant's belts together in order to flat tow his P125 for quite a few miles.
Yep, MJ towed me a couple of miles water-ski style on a narrow gravel shoulder of a highway up in Santa Barbara. Tied about 10' of rope to the rack of his Rally. Hairy, but do-able.
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:27 pm quote
Dont forget about me when there a scooter in trouble i lemd them my left legs

Today i am bored like hell, doing self isolation by cleaning the house, fix the smallie front suspention, tighting the exhaust manifold bolt, clean the bikes, and now i got nothing to do

Want to wrap the smallie but have to focusing the coins on surviving till the end of may, since no one want to buy my writing due to campus been shut down to eliminate the covid 19 spreading..

Here's my routine if u all curious

Hope everyone have a better routine then me and maybe finish the vespa project

Stay safe and cheer guys.. I love you all

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Force my wife to have a sunbath so she will have a good imunity

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Fixing what i can

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