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Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:04 am quote
Just bought this 80s P200 time warp scooter looks like it was a stalled project, anyone got any information on how the disc conversion goes together. P.S check out the awesome stereo setup

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Last edited by ricky cantley on Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:24 pm; edited 2 times in total
Molto Verboso
2005 PX150 In a Love-Hate Relationship with a 2-Stroke Vespa Since 2007
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:50 am quote
Is that a square wheel hub? Is the wheel square, too?
Seriously, I didn't know wheel hubs ever looked like that.
Hooked
Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:15 am quote
Think it may be an optical illusion it's like a weird lambretta hub, check out the gearbox

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Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:52 am quote
Was it used as a boat anchor?
Molto Verboso
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:54 am quote
Was this pulled up by a trawler? Those look like old marine engine bits.
Hooked
Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:14 am quote
Stored in a leaky shed in plastic buckets, bags of new in the box old stock Vespa bits rusted away, cable sets, stator plate, kick start quadrant, p200 cases
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:21 am quote
Is that a cassette player? Awesome. Imagine trying to eject the tape to flip it over while driving.
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Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:39 am quote
Check out the side panels

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:49 am quote




You could use a grimeca disc and use the Yamaha master cylinder.


Side panels and stereo are great
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Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:57 am quote
Is that this bit ?

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:21 pm quote
greedy
that looks like a remote for a cable to hydraulic. ..... seems like you have the beginnings of another disc setup
Molto Verboso
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:06 pm quote
That's a grimeca hub. Looks like home brewed master cyl set up
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:45 pm quote
the early grimeca kit has a thiner disk and the caliper has 25mm pistons compared to 30mm in the p98 and newer grimeca kits. I think the grimeca caliper on these early kits is one of the best looking ever made.

Before the P98 master was an option, it was common to weld, bolt, or otherwise modify a motorcycle master to fit.
Mr. Clean
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:56 pm quote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
before the P98 master was an option, it was common to weld, bolt, or otherwise modify a motorcycle master to fit.
Ooops is right.. I had a similar Yamaha master cylinder fit to my '90's P... clamp on type.. the welded mount you have is much nicer.. That's a well done headset you have.

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Hooked
Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:42 am quote
That's no way to treat a p200 lump

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Hooked
Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Location: Kent
Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:49 am quote
This scooter was never on the road after paint, I had to dremmel out the paint to get the engine bolt through. Well pleased with this find the DVLA say registered 1989 last taxed 1990 so I think off the road for at least 25 years

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:08 am quote
I wonder why it has flat floor mats like a T5
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Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:09 am quote
Yes must have been the look the builder wanted it has the original holes in the floorboard for the runners and a set was in with all the parts

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:19 am quote
Love it
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Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:24 pm quote
Project porky
I think the original builder intended to convert the semi hydraulic grimeca system to a fully hydraulic using the yammy lever, will it work?

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Ossessionato
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:40 pm quote
The rubber mats are probably just for the 80s look. Needs the turbo flywheel cover
Mr. Clean
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:52 pm quote
IIWY, I'd ditch the semi-hydraulic, remote master cylinder (the previous ownder did a great job of welding that Yamaha master-c to the headset)..

Get one of these brake lines:http://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/~/products/brake+hose+spiegler+modular+_30055100

and if you need to, SIP still sell the Grimeca "classic" rotor (looks like you have that, as opposed to the newer NT model)

http://www.sip-scootershop.com/main/base/Details.aspx?ProductNumber=30090000

That's what I ran w/ the Yamaha master-c for about 18 years.. I'm glad they still produce it.

You may be wise to consider a caliper re-build kit (seals) easy to do... OR just buy a new caliper.. after you've cleaned up the Grimeca hub / caliper holder.

I think the PO did a very nice job on that headset..
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:22 pm quote
Didn't know the old style disk was still available. that's cool!

If you can find a local shop does custom brake lines, you can run it through the fork, just like the cable did.

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Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:32 pm quote
^^

that anti-dive!

holy shit! i have one of those kicking around my shop!
Mr. Clean
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:36 pm quote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
If you can find a local shop does custom brake lines, you can run it through the fork, just like the cable did.
This is what I'm using these days.. DIY.. totally easy and THIN!

https://revivalcycles.com/collections/braking-hydraulic-lines-and-fittings
Hooked
Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Location: Kent
Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:47 pm quote
Vader19 wrote:
IIWY, I'd ditch the semi-hydraulic, remote master cylinder (the previous ownder did a great job of welding that Yamaha master-c to the headset)..

Get one of these brake lines:http://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/~/products/brake+hose+spiegler+modular+_30055100

and if you need to, SIP still sell the Grimeca "classic" rotor (looks like you have that, as opposed to the newer NT model)

http://www.sip-scootershop.com/main/base/Details.aspx?ProductNumber=30090000

That's what I ran w/ the Yamaha master-c for about 18 years.. I'm glad they still produce it.

You may be wise to consider a caliper re-build kit (seals) easy to do... OR just buy a new caliper.. after you've cleaned up the Grimeca hub / caliper holder.

I think the PO did a very nice job on that headset..


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That's the plan Vader , a line and new pads needed , the new condition old ones are rusted but the rest of the calliper and the rotor look good .

Molto Verboso
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:12 pm quote
Awesome scoot man!
Mr. Clean
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Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:27 pm quote
ricky cantley wrote:
That's what I ran w/ the Yamaha master-c for about 18 years.. I'm glad they still produce it.

You may be wise to consider a caliper re-build kit (seals) easy to do... OR just buy a new caliper.. after you've cleaned up the Grimeca hub / caliper holder.

I think the PO did a very nice job on that headset..
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Cool.. make sure and get some disc brake caliper piston grease (it's special) for the pistons.. This is what I use:

https://www.zoro.com/crc-brake-caliper-synthetic-grease-12-oz-05353/i/G3202202/?gclid=COXf09qUws4CFURrfgodKzgLsQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

looking forward to updates ricky.
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Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:21 am quote
Moved to project reports at OP's request.
Hooked
Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:41 am quote
stickyfrog wrote:
Moved to project reports at OP's request.
Thanks Stickyfrog
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Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Location: Kent
Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:10 am quote
So the list of stuff to do

1. Good clean to get rid of all the spiders
2. Fit new cable set as they all are brand new but years old and never greased
3. Centre stand
4. Electrics need hooking up and it needs the clear piaggio indicators and a CD player as I have no tapes left
5. Front break calliper rebuild and new line to fit from the yammy master to the grimeca calliper, new pads
6. Lock set
7. Fit rear break
8. Tank install and seat done properly
9. Remove the rubber floor mats and sort out the paint beneath, some sort of underseal that is flaking off the same with the underside of the floor.

Progress so far

T5 engine fitted
Side panel levers and rubbers fitted
New front and rear suspension fitted
New wheels and tyres fitted
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Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Location: Kent
Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:56 am quote
ricky cantley wrote:
That's no way to treat a p200 lump
I have a very good vapour blasting service near me going to see if he can save this will post after pictures.
Ossessionato
1980 P200E, 1974 Primavera, 04 Ninja 250
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Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:54 am quote
Awesome time warp scooter. You can use the old cassette to headphone cable adapter and play an ipod through that tape deck to keep it OG if you like.
Hooked
Vespa 2012 GTS Super 300
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Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:00 am quote
Quote:
You can use the old cassette to headphone cable adapter and play an ipod through that tape deck
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

Your going to find an old tape deck and make your own riding mix tapes. *Bonus: you can make you significant other sweet Mix Tapes to show how much you care.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:53 am quote
I've got about 150 cassettes and about 1000 vinyl records ,I don't mind sending you a couple of mix tapes to get you started.

Otherwise I'd recommend using a cheap Bluetooth player instead of CDs.
Ossessionato
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Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:14 am quote
okcgravity wrote:
Quote:
You can use the old cassette to headphone cable adapter and play an ipod through that tape deck
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

Your going to find an old tape deck and make your own riding mix tapes. *Bonus: you can make you significant other sweet Mix Tapes to show how much you care.
I suppose you are correct. I should have said - go visit some garage sales .
Hooked
Vespa 2012 GTS Super 300
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Location: dallas
Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:20 am quote
I was a little Harsh, its your bike and you can do whatever you want. Personally, I would love the added throwback style in old school mixtapes.

Just imagine the names.

Not a Moped #4
F your Harley #7
No one rides for free #2
Braap Braap #9
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Vespa 125GTR p125x p200
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Location: Kent
Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:01 pm quote
Gathering the parts
New lock set , cables , clear indicators and sip breaded hose delivered while I was on holiday. I am sure that I ordered some other bit and bobs as I was sitting by the pool.

Will try to get running, changing gear and stoping this weekend.

I have decided that I can't live with the airbrushed pigs on the side panels any suggestions on a easy cover up ?

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Addicted
79' p125x
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Location: greece
Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:11 pm quote
Cool scoot, you might offend someone with those side panels these days..

Here's a cheap idea to remove the airbrushed graphics.....

1000 grit wet and dry used wet, then T cut it to restore gloss. 3m do some good scratch remover kits, treat the same as getting rid of runs/drips or light scratches. should come out nice.

Hope this helps.
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Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:58 am quote
leave
how can 2 pigs gettin pissed offend ..... if it does the peeps need sending back to mummy in bubble wrap .... id ride it
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