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Has anyone tried the new Pirelli Diablo Tyres on their MP3. The only size available In Aus for a 12 inch rim is 130/70. Will this fit on a Fuoco or will it foul the mudguards? The rear 140/70 - 14 is available. Anyone care to compare with hte Michelin City Grips??
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I have not personally but when i owned my previous scooter people in the forum were not happy with them.
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Stick with the City Grips. Had Pirellis on mine for 1 day. Got rid of them. Less sidewall on City, leans easier.
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14perry wrote: Stick with the City Grips. Had Pirellis on mine for 1 day. Got rid of them. Less sidewall on City, leans easier. Now they do make a Winter Version as well that looks very good. Not sure they are available in the US. Keith |
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I dont know about MP3 but I've diablos on my 300gts...
Ive been riding for years and city grips were one of the worst tires I've ever tried !! Here the streets are really bad in terms of grip and was so dangerous to ride with those michelin (and am taking about new ones..) With diablos, it takes a lil to get warm but after it, they're pretty good. I recommended diablos every day |
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Pirelli Diablo Tyres
I like the Diablos and the City Grips.
When it comes to performance, I trust them both the same, but they do have a different feel. We just had record rain fall in Baton Rouge, and I was in it with my MP3 500 every day. The two front Diablos performed superbly. There was one time that I hit a body of water at about 45 to 50 MPH and became a water tunnel. The tires did not falter. Did break a bottom plastic foot part though. Can not say about the 130/12. Always used 120/12 |
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what are you looking for?
grip longivity wet dry costs ect, ect knowing this helps in determining which way to point you. I have tried pretty much them all diablos city grips power pure The old pirelli gts avon's (hate those the were the worst feeling and like riding on rocks, took them off and threw them away before I could even get a 1000 miles on them. Wouldn't even give them away to someone they were that bad) |
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old as dirt wrote: what are you looking for? grip longivity wet dry costs ect, ect personally, now that I have tried the Metzeler Feel Free I don't want any other |
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Fair Point OAD. I have the original Pirelli GTS's that are now 8 years old and, although they have tread on them they are getting a bit crusty and so are ready for retirement.
95% of my riding is stop-start commuting at up to 50mph. Roads are reasonable but often damp in the (Southern Hemisphere) winter. Luckily price and wear rate are not an issue for me, but stability and predictable grip in both wet and dry conditions are the most important factors. I can get Metzler ME 7 Teen here but can't find anything from Continental. So far the vote seems to be the City's but all opinions are welcome. |
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Diver3284 wrote: Fair Point OAD. I have the original Pirelli GTS's that are now 8 years old and, although they have tread on them they are getting a bit crusty and so are ready for retirement. 95% of my riding is stop-start commuting at up to 50mph. Roads are reasonable but often damp in the (Southern Hemisphere) winter. Luckily price and wear rate are not an issue for me, but stability and predictable grip in both wet and dry conditions are the most important factors. I can get Metzler ME 7 Teen here but can't find anything from Continental. So far the vote seems to be the City's but all opinions are welcome. I do suggest you up size the rear to a 150/70-14, it gives you a lot more clearance when corning and less likely to drag the center stand. I also find it gives you a better planted feel thru the corners. Now if your height challenged stick with the 140/70-14. some have even gone to the 160/60-14 so it lowers the seat height even more but you do lower the back end so that the center stand hits even sooner. So you can't be as aggressive thru the corners. |
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I got the Michelin Power Pure for the rear. After only 3000 miles, the center profile is flat already. What do you recommend with a harder center that does not wear out so easily?
Thanks for your help. Regards. |
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I'm running Michelin City Grip on the rear and Power Pures on the front. I'm very happy with them and would replace with like. Riding conditions similar to yours - when commuting, now retired, was mix of main arterial roads, motorway, suburban streets and back streets with surfaces varying from smooth hot-mix asphalt to smooth tarseal or chip-surfaced tar. Never felt the tyres slide on wet surfaces, even when dash temp gauge was warning of "freezing temps". I ride more cautiously on wet roads than I do on dry, so that may account for no wet road issues.
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Mark99 wrote: I got the Michelin Power Pure for the rear. After only 3000 miles, the center profile is flat already. What do you recommend with a harder center that does not wear out so easily? Thanks for your help. Regards. City grips would do better for you. |
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There have been other threads on the Diablos.
Worst wearing tire I had on mine - half the mileage of the next in line. Also they have a strange peaked sidewall that rubbed on my shocks. Smoked so bad I turned around and came home because I thought something was wrong. Rotating the shock spring helped clear what was left. Anyway - not a fan and the City Grips are pert near a perfect all around tire. |
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After a bit over 20,000 miles up front, I am about to swap out my City Grips for another pair. Rears have averaged 9,000 miles.
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I realize this is an old thread and hope I don't get in the penalty box for a reply. I just recently went thru this scenario and maybe it will help others. I had the first Diablo, really quick to turn in and lean with terrific feedback. When it wore out I wanted to get another but Pirelli discontinued it and made the updated Diablo Rosso, I took a chance. It feels very different than the 1st Diablo. Harder to lean over and less road feel completely, too much sidewall and Pirelli made too stiff. I rode for 3k miles on it and while it had plenty of tread left I dumped it early because it was not fun to ride on.
So I found city grips on clearance prices with the the city grip 2 coming out. These feel just as good as the 1st Diablo. Sporty, great road feel, easy to make tight turns due to its smaller size. 150 70 13 CG vs 150 70 13 Diablo Rosso you could see and touch it and tell Michelin made the smaller tire, so its more agile. I am hoping the city grip 2 does not stray too far from the city grip 1. ⚠️ Last edited by 87112 on UTC; edited 1 time
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On my Yourban I had as first tire City Grip, not bad but I want to try something different to compare them whit and now I'm riding City Grip 2, feel much more grip specially on wet streets.
Next time I'll try Diablo that from what I've heard are much better than City Grip (first version) but also a bit more expensive. |
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Had City grip and they made from plastic comparing with Diablo. For usual owner I recommend Angel.
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Pirelli Angels +
City Grip - City Grips only stick when new - after a while they will only suck. Noticed the same effect with another type of tyre from Michelin in the past, so I don't trust these guys anymore. Just my experience... Don't know about the characteristics of the Pirelli Angels after more than a year or so, but I really like their grip and steering so far. Steering is even better than with the previous Diablo series. My choice would be the Pirelli Angels, rather than having oversized Diablo's at the front. |
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frcx94 wrote: old as dirt wrote: what are you looking for? grip longivity wet dry costs ect, ect personally, now that I have tried the Metzeler Feel Free I don't want any other |
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