PLEASE READ: A Note About ScooterBBS and Civility
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Petty Tyrant
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:20 pm quote
We're all entitled to our opinions, but I want to ask each of you to please respect everyone else's opinions about scooters, even Chinese ones.

There's a thread on the International New Scooter BBS right now about Modern Vespa, and it's turned antagonistic. While SE's response to the original post included less than complimentary opinions about Vespa scooters, I choose to take the high road, and I'd like to ask each of you to consider doing the same or at least avoid commenting.

Please, please, please, everyone... be civil. I started this forum to remove the country-of-origin conflict, and I'd really rather not replace it by creating a rivalry between this forum and ScooterBBS. Let's keep the focus on scooters and scootering.

Thanks,
Jess

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Ossessionato
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:26 pm quote
Agreed, let's take the high road ladies and gentlemen
Oh, tea time, Ta-ta
Addicted
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:47 pm quote
Sounds Good
Sounds good to me, I joined this group because I know that comments made will be useful and that hopefully no one is bashing anyone else's scooter. I am glad for anyone who rides, and whatever they ride.
Ossessionato
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:55 pm quote
I just read the aforementioned thread. Jeez, what hate.
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:03 pm quote
Nothing but love! Hope it wasn't read that way. I was just pointing out both sides, and hair loss prevention.

Sorry if my comment seemed like hate, it was really to point out there are merits to both forums.
Ossessionato
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:58 pm quote
phr3d wrote:
Nothing but love! Hope it wasn't read that way. I was just pointing out both sides, and hair loss prevention.

Sorry if my comment seemed like hate, it was really to point out there are merits to both forums.
I didn't see any hate from you, only sarcasm.

Unless you were serious about hairloss. I feel your pain.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:35 pm quote
I haven't even read the other forum after joining this one. It wasn't helping me with my scooter, or my attitude.
Hooked
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:32 pm quote
Karmas going to get ya! Nuff said!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Reprehensible Misinformant
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:51 pm quote
OK, but....
Can we STOP talking about hairloss already....it's bringing me down!
Ossessionato
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:56 pm quote
Re: OK, but....
mattgordon wrote:
Can we STOP talking about hairloss already....it's bringing me down!
I checked the link. It is real! (Hey, I'm mostly bald. I was curious. It doesn't hurt to just wanna see what they do does it? )

They seem oblivious to the fact that millions of scooterists on Italian and Chinese scooters are peeking over the fence at them...

And now that the eyes of the other forums are on us here (OK, who spilled the beans?) lets be extra careful not to step on anyone's toes. Not only over on the BBS, but here as well. We've all been on forums long enough to know that what you write doesn't always translate into what you mean. If you've got even a hint that you're quickly composed reply might be misread, don't hit that submit button! Read it again and either edit it, or don't send it.

Sometimes biting your tongue is better than speaking your mind.

Thanks guys, and keep it cool!
Steve
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:28 pm quote
Re: What can we do to support the MV?
Hey Jess,

Thanks for the reminder. I feel like a BBS refugee, but it's not so bad because, thanks to you guys, we now have a place to go and ModernVespa is getting better by the hour. I can't thank you enough for setting this up. So, what can we do to support the MV?
Sir Frets-A-Lot
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:20 pm quote
Wow, that went from 0 to angry in 1 post.

Scary stuff man. You'd think people'd be able to get along if they share the same hobbies.
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:25 pm quote
fuck getting along !
hows your clutch OZ ?
Sir Frets-A-Lot
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:29 pm quote
NapaCoach wrote:
fuck getting along !
hows your clutch OZ ?
Working, which is both amazing and confusing!

Hopefully it'll last!!! I wanted to take her out to point reyes this past weekend but it was c-r-a-p-p-y weather this sunday. Depressing. Maybe this sunday. I'd say come along, but it's the wrong direction for you!
Petty Tyrant
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:03 pm quote
TheO.Z. wrote:
I'd say come along, but it's the wrong direction for you!
He's crazy enough to do it, just you wait and see...
Ossessionato
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:11 am quote
Hey Jess, about that PM I sent you... Maybe skip the idea. It just further propegates that which we are trying to avoid.
Sir Frets-A-Lot
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:58 am quote
jess wrote:
TheO.Z. wrote:
I'd say come along, but it's the wrong direction for you!
He's crazy enough to do it, just you wait and see...
Hell man, you can do it too Come on, richmond bridge We can meet up in corte madera!
Petty Tyrant
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:19 am quote
TheO.Z. wrote:
Hell man, you can do it too Come on, richmond bridge We can meet up in corte madera!
If the weather's not miserable, I'll seriously consider it.
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:56 am quote
Hi-I'm new to this forum, but I was a lurker then a member of International Scooterist BBS for some time. I was glad to see this new forum for Vespa riders. Though I got a lot of good and useful information on scootering in general and my GT in particular on the other forum, it seems to have gradually gone down hill. There also seemed to be a lot of dealer promotion from time to time.

I hope we all can use this forum for useful tips, and generally improving our riding experience.
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:58 am quote
BernieB,
welcome to the club
Hooked
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:56 am quote
Re: PLEASE READ: A Note About ScooterBBS and Civility
[quote="jess"] Let's keep the focus on scooters and scootering.

Word jess! that's what we all love to do and that's why we're here in the forum!

Cheers!
CUCO
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:05 pm quote
Thanks..
ScooterBBS and Civility? That's an inherernt contradiction if I've ever heard one!

BTW thanks for putting this up, nice to see that we have a choice.
Member
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:55 pm quote
I found this site through ScooterBBS and doubt I'll be going back. Sure we ride ours, they ride theirs, but that site was getting beyond a joke with some of the posts (and subsequent flaming).

I hope this site remains, Vespa focussed and friendly 'cos we all need someweb to call "home"
Enthusiast
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:37 pm quote
Thanks to Jess for setting up this fantastic site. Not only does it seem like it's run by professionals, the look-and-feel is completely user-friendly. I can read this site and not have a massive migraine like I did from the white-text-on-black-background at ScooterBBS (which is a horrible violation of usability). Thumbs up!
Member
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:06 pm quote
scootermonkey wrote:
Thanks to Jess for setting up this fantastic site. Not only does it seem like it's run by professionals, the look-and-feel is completely user-friendly. I can read this site and not have a massive migraine like I did from the white-text-on-black-background at ScooterBBS (which is a horrible violation of usability). Thumbs up!
The white on black text was perhaps but a small part of the site that was creating mini-migraines for me. Thankfully everyone here just flat out ignores my few dumb posts rather than goes into disparaging comment mode.

As an aside - Jess, I did read your sticky about civility and suggestion to refrain from commenting on the ISBBS regarding the anti-vespa thread, but I felt it was important for me to say something there in spite of my apparent lack of credibility. No, I'm not an old-skool scooterist nor am I a new-skooler. I don't know when I may get a scoot of my own (maybe it turns out to be never - there are a lot of other priorities that come before such an indulgence) but I have been smitten with Vespas for somewhere around 10-12 years now, and that is basically the only make I have even considered. I just got tired of the developments taking place on the ISBBS... I hope that the 'positivity' of this site continues even as it attracts more members!
Enthusiast
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:39 am quote
JNV
For whatever it is worth, I like reading and posting on this forum more than the scooter bbs. People here seem friendlier and more open to discussion not just badmouthing anyone who thinks differently or know less about scooters. I like it here more even though I do not even own a modern vespa.
Petty Tyrant
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:25 am quote
JNV - And we're glad to have you.

I noted with some amusement that the vintage crowd at ScooterBBS has also taken the stance that Ps aren't worthy of their club, manual shift or not. We will draw no such line here.
Enthusiast
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:32 am quote
Jelous
damn...im jellous of you bay area riders...i wanna ride to point reyes too!
damn Bend Oregon and its snow...
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:40 am quote
Having lived in the Bay Area, I would think that you'd have to ride at a 45 degree angle (into the wind) to get across the Richmond Bridge. I've sailed all round the bay and the knowledge of the wind conditions could come in handy if I ever get my scooter back there. And I do want to acknowledge as others have done here, that BBS was responsible in part for my getting connected with Modern Vespa and for that I'm thankful.
MarkD
Petty Tyrant
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:42 am quote
gotsand wrote:
Having lived in the Bay Area, I would think that you'd have to ride at a 45 degree angle (into the wind) to get across the Richmond Bridge.
Yeah, I had that thought too. I haven't actually crossed the Richmond bridge myself (although I think NapaCoach must have done it). I would most likely cross the Bay Bridge and then the Golden Gate. Those two together would be much preferable to the Richmond bridge.
Sir Frets-A-Lot
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:15 am quote
jess wrote:
gotsand wrote:
Having lived in the Bay Area, I would think that you'd have to ride at a 45 degree angle (into the wind) to get across the Richmond Bridge.
Yeah, I had that thought too. I haven't actually crossed the Richmond bridge myself (although I think NapaCoach must have done it). I would most likely cross the Bay Bridge and then the Golden Gate. Those two together would be much preferable to the Richmond bridge.
Well, if ya come, I can meet you by the GG bridge, since I'll need to come through that to get to Marin...
Petty Tyrant
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:25 am quote
TheO.Z. wrote:
Well, if ya come, I can meet you by the GG bridge, since I'll need to come through that to get to Marin...
The forecast for Sunday is clear so far... What kinda timeframe are you thinking of?

And why hasn't NapaCoach jumped in yet?
Sir Frets-A-Lot
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:28 am quote
jess wrote:
TheO.Z. wrote:
Well, if ya come, I can meet you by the GG bridge, since I'll need to come through that to get to Marin...
The forecast for Sunday is clear so far... What kinda timeframe are you thinking of?

And why hasn't NapaCoach jumped in yet?
I was thinkin' leave SF at about 1 or so... have you ever taken the GG bridge? if you're worried about freeways, we can hop off right at sausalito. it's also a nice ride. If you've never been through the area I"ll lead.
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:02 pm quote
Oz - Sent you a PM about it.
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