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Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:26 am quote
I am starting a cutdown project.
Actually it's more like I finally decided to 'rescue' an abandoned cutdown project gone bad.
I had given an unloved, but straight and rustfree Stella frame to a friend who wanted to build a sexy chopped scooter with the theme being a fierce striking Cobra...

We shaved the ass then he started cutting it. Hmmm... interesting, but not my cup of tea.
Long story short, he got married and got into boating while the sad Cobra gathered dust in my shed.


Here's what I got. What to do....


I will probably reattach parts of the original floor where he took it all off.


Full cut out for back tire, he was gonna go with no cowls.

So, I have a basic plan but please post up pics of your favorite cutdowns so I can get some more ideas.
Thanks.
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Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:15 am quote
shite
carry in that cut from the bottom taking out the indicators ...... youve cut the spare off so id put a hanger where the toolbox would be ..... its gonna look odd with no spare n all the lump stuck out one side so id fix an amo box where the spare would be ....
do you need indicators by law?
are you having a bike tank? thatll stop the spare option
have a look at me bitza for the best cutdown ever to grace tarmac

id slash cut the panels n fit em then put the spare back n run a bike tank
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Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:39 am quote
Now you're talking, let's see some old pics of that beauty - I was hoping you'd chip in!

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here's the old floor as cut
new cut on top will be inside the line about middle of indicator hole
then old edge will be welded back on corner like you see below

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and the new line removing most of the indicator hole and going back to a more traditional shape but narrower

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I'm trying 'half cowls' made from half a trailer fender, just tacked on here
similar on other side w/ spare tire or maybe ammo box inside(I do have one)

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Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:28 am quote
l/c it and put a rad that side.
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Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:32 am quote
next time your over i'll fab you a fairing with a NACA duct on in, it'll be great. or fab a jerry can up that has the rad in it with with louvers cut into it.........
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Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:35 am quote
Cool project Voo!

Not a cutdown but a cutout...

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Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:00 pm quote
PureDrivenSnow wrote:
Cool project Voo!

Not a cutdown but a cutout...
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Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:11 pm quote
Here's one something like what I'm doing, but he's running a full cowl on the other side that's been made narrower and welded on. The whole build is detailed here, pretty nice work : http://oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/33452-hmmmnzs-150cc-un-cut-down-vespa/







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Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:38 pm quote
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prob dont really need to put all the floor back, just cut straight up the edges of leggy and round off the top after.
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Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:43 am quote
HEY!

Let's see some fresh pics of yours! You were one of my inspirations, so cough 'm up.

NO^^^!
Sorry, I just didn't like this shape, even if I narrowed the top more.
Only part of the floor is going back on, it's over an 1 1/2" narrower on each side but using the original cut off pieces so it's deceiving.

Just about got the front end done. It's different, more pics coming soon...

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you can see here how much narrower it is

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Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:24 am quote
bored of seein it







wait till ya see its new incarnation from the bull



ya know the bull is what was left of the bitza after it wa written off n shoved in a full frame
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Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:02 pm quote
are you thinking of making a wide rim and offset case for the back?
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Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:08 am quote
V oodoo wrote:
Here's one something like what I'm doing, but he's running a full cowl on the other side that's been made narrower and welded on. The whole build is detailed here, pretty nice work : http://oldschool.co.nz/index.php?/topic/33452-hmmmnzs-150cc-un-cut-down-vespa/




That looks awesome, like a smallframe from a largeframe!
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Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:15 pm quote
Yeah, there are some nice cutdowns out there and I found an old folder w/ lots of pics, so here's a photobomb of some of the ones that still caught my eye starting out w/ another shot of one of my favorites:

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Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:35 pm quote
And lots of smallies

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Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:36 pm quote
more

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Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:14 am quote
2nd
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Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:36 pm quote
Nice, but those handlebars are rather tiny for my taste.

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Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:57 am quote
Cutdown
Heat

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Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:22 pm quote
Interesting, VOodoo! I always liked the cutdown that Pirate upholstery did, let me see if I can find a pic.

Found a link to some photos:

http://motorcycle-74.blogspot.com/2012/06/military-vespa-sidecar.html?m=1
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Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:44 pm quote


Nice! Except for that fat sidecar(I know you have a thing for them) , that's a pretty skinny machine and I actually like how he's preserved the blinkers. I'm jealous of his mudguard and I am trying to make mine more like that.
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:36 pm quote
I have finally been getting the body work done and in primer ready to paint. I've got all the dozens of little jobs done on the frame, on the motor and on the fork & mudguard fitment so I can put it together the way it's gonna be so I can see what the motor can do off the test stand.

The self etching primer is OK for now while I try to pick a color & wring out the mechanicals. I'm thinking battleship gray, but am still open to ideas - flat or eggshell semi gloss because the bodywork won't handle hi gloss w/ all the flaws highlighted.

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P200 motor all done and busted headset perch fixed,
fork & mudguard mated up nicely, w/extension welded to mudguard mount to align w/ wheel

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popped right in easy peasy while it was still laid on its side
nose up, ready for fork next

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new kickstart tucks in just right
still waiting for original old style thick leggy trim to arrive

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this thing is skinny, but looks sort of 'normal'
a largeframe leggy/floor is about 18 1/2", smallie is 16 1/2" and this 14 1/2"

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Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:03 pm quote
Show us the left side, what are your plans wrt cowls.
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:21 pm quote
Here's the other side w/ just the motor in there and it looks kind of hollow. With the spare tire in place it looks more balanced.
I have no plans to change the 'cowls', my motor & spare tire are pretty and I want to show them off.

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Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:40 pm quote
That works well. What will you do paint-wise?
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Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:52 pm quote
This belongs to a friend of mine -

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Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:13 am quote
V oodoo - That thing is classy. I saw bits of it in the Bollox thread, but haven't seen it's origin until now.
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Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:55 am quote
Bazziemoto wrote:
This belongs to a friend of mine -
This has got to be my favorite!!! I just love it - it has a lot of whimsy and also a serious looking side!!! Most excellent!
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Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:41 am quote
missed
i really wanna build another ..... i have it in me head already .... itll be a take on the bitza .... I've got 3seats n t5 casings don't need much more 😀
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Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:35 am quote
Re: missed
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i really wanna build another ..... i have it in me head already .... itll be a take on the bitza .... I've got 3seats n t5 casings don't need much more 😀
Well I for one can't wait to see it Bitza ....
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Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:44 am quote
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Bazziemoto wrote:
This belongs to a friend of mine -
This has got to be my favorite!!! I just love it - it has a lot of whimsy and also a serious looking side!!! Most excellent!
Right? This thing is sick. I love it! Haven't seen it in person yet, but I'm sure I will at some point. This guy is the only reason my primmy made it back on the road! He's a smallframe whiz.
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Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:20 am quote
my heart will go off
also found some bare bars i might get if price dont go too high .... or i have an idea for some made from t5 bars n fibreglass
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Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:08 pm quote
Oh boy, can't wait for the latest from Bitz! Good to see cutdowns are still alive, even in America. I saw 2 really well done cutdowns at Amerivespa, but didn't have camera with me . One of them was pretty much Show Quality - anybody that was there get any pics?

And this latest little honey from Boston(?) is just delicious, cut rat smallie cooked up just right and served hot.
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Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:12 pm quote
Here are the cutdown shots I took at Amerivespa. The third is more of a rat but I figured it was worth including. I also took a bunch of shots at the auction. Mostly close ups of old dealer badges/stickers, logos, and other random unique things. I'd be happy to put together a post of them if you like.

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Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:32 am quote
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And this latest little honey from Boston(?) is just delicious, cut rat smallie cooked up just right and served hot.
Yep! From the Boston area. Just posted that one a couple days ago. If it wasn't for the owner of that bike, mine wouldn't be on the road right now!
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Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:23 pm quote
More pics of that one^^^please, and what's the backstory? Motor?

Meanwhile I need help picking my seat. Opinions?

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this one is racy, in new condition, fits the lines of the bike well but no passengers

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this one is smaller, sexy, scruffy, covered w/ real leather that could be refurbished and could carry a passenger if you were very good friends but needs new foam.

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this Primavera seat looks more like stock, more under the radar, even says Piaggio on the back and no problem fitting a passenger.

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Primmy seat looks great from this angle

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Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:30 pm quote
1st one fits the lines so nice...
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Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:34 pm quote
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More pics of that one^^^please, and what's the backstory? Motor?
Are you asking about the Boston bike?
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Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:38 pm quote
Yeah first seat is very nice, even suits the rack!

I wish you would go for a legshield trim that is less dominating... I think it spoils the look.
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Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:57 am quote
Nice work on this! It came together really well.

I'm leaning ever so slightly towards the third seat. Although the first one really compliments what you've done with the bike.

Like that Corvair, too.
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