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Ossessionato
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Location: Tega Cay, SC
Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:11 am quote
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but at what temperature do you decide not to ride - icy roads aside. For me (a South Florida boy), it's 50. Used to be 60, but I have been up here for ten years and have gotten a little used to colder temps (but I still don't like it - I'm happy at 85 and rising).
Ossessionato
MP3 500, MP3 250, GTS 250
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:28 am quote
I'll ride in the teens if the roads are clear.
And on the high side, I have ridden in upper 90s on long rides. Highway for the most part; the worst thing about heat is stopping or going slow.
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2013 GTS 300ie
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Location: Asheville, NC (-ish.)
Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:39 am quote
It's not a purely temperature thing for me. It's how I'm feeling, how far I'm going, condition of my gear, traffic conditions, etc.
My record is 16 miles at 9F. I've done a 4 hour/150 mile round trip in a snow storm that started at 25F and ended at 18F. I've also had 50F clear days that had me scrabbling for the car keys.

I have noticed that one of my biggest motivator killers is waking up cold. Worse than a cat and water.
Grumpy Biker
1980 Vespa P200e (sold), 2002 Vespa ET4 (sold), 1949 Harley-Davidson FL
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Location: Chandler, Arizona, USA
Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:43 am quote
When I didn't have a car, I would ride no matter how cold it got. Most years, in this part of AZ, that meant only a few mornings a year below 32F. We've only had a couple days below 40F so far this year. Coldest I've ridden in is 17F.

-Craig
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Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:50 am quote
Salt and slippery stuff is my main deterrent. I'd say otherwise, 25F is getting a bit chilly, though depends on my mood and other miscellany. I've got a 5 mile commute, so distance matters too.

Still kicking myself for not doing a short ride for Aviator yesterday. Was barely in the teens, if that, but only had to go around the block....
Ossessionato
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:23 am quote
I was thinking about this after a chilly ride the other day. I've ridden in temps as low as 15F and as high as 108F. 15 was more pleasant than 108
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:49 am quote
I am now a fair weather driver. anything under the 40's is a no go.
Ossessionato
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Location: Springboro, OH
Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:48 pm quote
25F is my realistic cutoff. By the time you get up to reasonable speed, the wind chill would be near zero. And I do not ride in snowy/icy conditions.

Once it gets over 100F, I can't really tell. Hottest I rode in was Amerivespa in Memphis (about 105F). But when moving, I was generally fine.
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:09 pm quote
i ride to work every day, luckily its only a mile down the road. the coldest i have rode in is -5*F. its hard just to get a scooter started in those temps. i am glad that is not a common occurrence. i do regularly ride in the teens and single digits in the winter. i break out the jacket when it gets below 60, and gloves below 50. when it gets below freezing i do layers and start wearing a scarf. having a wind screen is a huge advantage.

come summer temp really isn't an issue. 100+ no discomfort even on long rides with little shade. so long as i keep moving
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:10 pm quote
The worst I've done was about 100 miles in a blizzard. It wasn't very sensible to ride but the thought of stopping and erecting a tent in the snow wasn't too appealing either. I was on a long ride through the mountains so I couldn't go home and I was too much of a cheapskate to even think of a hotel
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79' p125x
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Location: greece
Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:26 pm quote
I try to be a fair weather biker these days, like caschnd1, when i didn't have a car, all weather all year, don't like cold or wet that much any more. trying to decide if i should go out on my p in 3" of snow tomorrow morning...... I once took my gsxr 750 from venice to cortina, big mistake, venice was plus something and Cortina was minus 25c in the shade, kept stopping at gas stations to shove newspapers down my top and de-freeze my fingers, and I just remembered, the carbs kept icing up and jamming the throttle, just to think it i also toasted a my front disks that day. totally warped, was trying to ride in the 12 inches of un-frozen road in the shade....and get home fast.. stupid youth....
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79' p125x
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:34 pm quote
on metzeler rennsports..
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:42 pm quote
At 66, I generally won't go when the temp is under 40F. As far as heat -- if I know I can keep moving, there really isn't too hot. Although once I got stuck in traffic in DC on a 90F+ day. That was the only time my radiator fan kicked on and stayed on most of the time. Just awful.
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79' p125x
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:51 pm quote
stupid question, but how do you get stuck in traffic on a vespa?
Grumpy Biker
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:52 pm quote
Filtering is not allowed in the USA except in California.
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79' p125x
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Location: greece
Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:54 pm quote
not allowed? whats the penalty? sorry, didn't realise.
Grumpy Biker
1980 Vespa P200e (sold), 2002 Vespa ET4 (sold), 1949 Harley-Davidson FL
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:57 pm quote
I imagine the fines vary widely. But it could easily cost you $200. Worse though... other drivers are not expecting you to filter (since it's not legal or practiced) so they are not watching for it and are likely to run you over by switching lanes unexpectedly.
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79' p125x
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Location: greece
Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:58 pm quote
I cant imagine a world without filtering, just cannot get my head around it why they would make it illegal? wouldn't you be incredibly vulnerable at the back of a large que of traffic if it backs up fast?
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:58 pm quote
caschnd1 wrote:
Filtering is not allowed in the USA except in California.
This. I've had to make a rule for myself to not watch any of my favorite motovloggers before riding because most of them live where filtering (schloofling) is the norm. It just makes too much sense and I might forget that it's not legal or expected here!
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79' p125x
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Location: greece
Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:00 pm quote
no body ever here seems to expect anything but it all works out ok ish, most of the time.. (although we do have Europe's worst road traffic accident rate)
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79' p125x
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Location: greece
Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:03 pm quote
actually i do see quite a few people on the road every week come to think of it..
Grumpy Biker
1980 Vespa P200e (sold), 2002 Vespa ET4 (sold), 1949 Harley-Davidson FL
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Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:05 pm quote
kyvelis wrote:
I cant imagine a world without filtering, just cannot get my head around it why they would make it illegal? wouldn't you be incredibly vulnerable at the back of a large que of traffic if it backs up fast?
It's a mind-set problem with most drivers in the US. PTWs are not used for everyday commuting very frequently here. The other drivers don't like the PTWs cutting to the front of the line (the "if I can't do it, you can't do it" mentality). It is very dangerous. There was a big pile up her in Arizona a few years ago. A 15 ton dump truck plowed into a pack of motorcycle riders waiting at the back of a backup at a traffic light. Killed 5 or 6 of them. The state legislature introduced a bill within a few months to make filtering legal. The bill was vetoed by our brilliant Governor.

-Craig
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Location: Asheville, NC (-ish.)
Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:20 pm quote
Back to OT, I did my first snow ride of the season today! Three "firsts" with the GTS that turned out wonderfully.

- Temperature controller for the gloves: OMG that's a night/day difference!! As soon as the engine cools and the body warms up, I'm mounting the controller to the legshield with industrial velcro.
- Heidenau K58 "blocky tread" tires. I was aiming for something akin to a 70/30 dualsport tire because I was tired of spinning and sliding down the dirt/grass/gravel driveway to the garage...especially in the snow. This works great! It's not good for higher speeds, but it's perfect for winter.
- Midsize windshield. Why didn't I do this sooner? The only downside is that my glasses and visor fog up more frequently until the temperature of everything equalizes. The upside of that is I don't freeze my face off when I crack the visor. I can live with it.

30-35F ride, probably around 20 miles. Oh, and I found my insulated boots. Fingers, toes, and nose are safe!
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79' p125x
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Location: greece
Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:27 am quote
I got the mind set thing really bad going from france to uk one time, police waving bikers to the front of the que for the ferry, ticket booths waving bikes on, car drivers going apeshit nuts... full on trying to fight bikers.. twas 35'c though so i did feel a little sorry for them as we sailed away drinking a beer...

I hate getting spooked if it all backs up quick and i find myself stopped at the back of a line of traffic, specially if its after a bend or a hill.... i did my first snow ride this year yesterday! it was pants changingly stressfull. on top of the snow, everyone was out making heating oil deliveries and outside every gas station was a diesel slick, today i did a nice ball marinating torrential freezing rain ride to pick up a set of plugs..... I don't like winter.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:37 am quote
I wont do freezing rain, I would rather ride in the bitter cold. high winds are horrible no matter what the temps are. nothing like leaning 15 degrees to go straight. on the plus side though if you have a windscreen and a strong tail wind you don't need to use the throttle
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79' p125x
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Posts: 488
Location: greece
Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:42 am quote
after today i'm thinking of looking into one of those granny blankets for my p, any recommendations?
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79' p125x
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Location: greece
Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:44 am quote
and it wasn't raining when i left.......
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