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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:46 pm quote
iggydaybreaker wrote:
nooooooooooooooo
What? You thought that was the piston?

Nice tool, makes it look easy. I use one of those tough square shank Craftsman screwdrivers that fits the slots well & it's still a battle
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Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:48 pm quote
V oodoo wrote:
iggydaybreaker wrote:
nooooooooooooooo
What? You thought that was the piston?

Nice tool, makes it look easy. I use one of those tough square shank Craftsman screwdrivers that fits the slots well & it's still a battle
I guess it kinda does look like a piston. Kinda on parr with all of the cylinder rebuild threads that are happening right now.

I made the tool quite a few years ago. I took an extra socket that I had, and then made a wide notch in it (canít remember how wide...1/4Ē, 5/16Ē, or 3/8?) Then I welded in a piece of however thick flat bar that was needed to match the notch in the cylinder stub. It makes it VERY easy to remove the stub.

Iíve been trying to upload the rest of the pictures, but my phone wonít let me. I keep getting a ďUnable to upload file. The given source has not been uploaded.Ē every time I try to upload a pic.
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Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:28 pm quote
I cut the neck off of the Sito as close to the weld as possible.

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Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:35 pm quote
Hereís a pic of the Sito mounted back up with the neck cut off and the GS stub screwed in.

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Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:40 pm quote
And a pic of the new neck thatís set up for an O ring.

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Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:42 pm quote
And finally the Sito with it slipped inside of it.

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Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:49 pm quote
I fired up the MiG welder and zapped the two together. I also added two holes for the exhaust springs. I used a ball tipped carbide bit on my die grinder to create the holes.

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Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:52 pm quote
I tack welded two exhaust spring hangers to the Sito.

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Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:06 am quote
I squirted it with some high temp exhaust paint, and then remounted it all back together.

I went out for an 80 mile ride the next day to test it out....and zero exhaust leaks!

Is this mod really needs for a Sito exhaust on a cast iron cylinder? Probably not?...unless you have a a leak that you canít get rid of. Where this mod does come into play is when you have an aluminum cylinder. Itís not good to clamp down an exhaust to an aluminum stub. Over time it can damage the stub. I did this same exact mod on my Pinasco 215 kit a few weeks ago, and I have zero leaks on that scooter as well. I figured Iíd be the one to spend the money to be the beta tester on these parts. I give it two thumbs up.

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Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:35 am quote
Nice mod whodat!
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:48 am quote
all you need to do know, is buy a batch of exhausts and sell them on modified....
i would but one thats for sure
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:56 pm quote
Great work as always!
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:13 pm quote
First class design and first class workmanship!

Another good idea filed for the future...
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Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:35 pm quote
Thank you guys! The modification was one that I have been interested in doing for a few years, but I was hoping someone else would do it first so I could see if it was worth it. I think it might be a little over a little too over the top for most box exhaust systems that are mounted on a cast iron cylinder. All the parts rounded up probably costs more than most would want to spend on something so trivial....But if you have a persistent exhaust leak, then this might be the ticket.

I think the weld on O ring neck was about $35, the GS exhaust stub was about $40, springs are about $4 each, and the big pack of weld on spring hooks were about $12 (all USD). That adds up to one expensive Sito!...but it doesnít leak, so Iím happy! Iíd definitely do it again.
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:26 am quote
Hi Whodat,

I remember back when this was started and being excited, and i was then offline for awhile and today got to burn feverishly through the pages of this thread, very much worth the wait.

Great stuff,

Thanks for providing such an entertaining build
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:09 pm quote
jackson85 wrote:
Hi Whodat,

I remember back when this was started and being excited, and i was then offline for awhile and today got to burn feverishly through the pages of this thread, very much worth the wait.

Great stuff,

Thanks for providing such an entertaining build
Well thank you for following along Jackson! Thereís still a few more little things to add. You know it goes, a project is really never finished.
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:22 pm quote
Since warm weather riding is pretty much a thing of the past in the Pacific Northwest now, itís time to fit a flyscreen on the PK. Looks are always debatable with screens, but no one can deny the functionality of them when it get wet and cold out!

I had an extra flyscreen from one of my Pís, but it was black acrylic, and I wanted white. I found a NOS upper and lower screen that was white on (thanks!)Scoot.net. The older screens were bettter quality than the newer ones. I also search around for transparent pink plastic surplus to make the upper screen out of, but I couldnít find a tint that I liked. Then I took a closer look at the extra black screen that I had...and duh, it had the perfect rose colored tint. After all these years of using it (close to 20 years!). I guess I never paid much attention to what color it actually was . I had to get a bit creative making my own flyscreen mounting, but when I finish it was strong enough that it didnít vibrate.

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Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:24 pm quote
Another angle

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Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:31 pm quote
I ordered up some Cycra brand handguard shields in a white (dirtbike specific parts). The shields are a different tone of white than the flyscreen, but I donít care. The reason for the shields is to help keep my hands warm and dry. Since the PK has grip heaters, I should be good to go for the rest of the fall and some winter ridding.

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Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:35 pm quote
I pealed the stickers off the shields, and bolted them to my flyscreen.

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Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:36 pm quote
With it mounting the scooter.

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Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:39 pm quote
double post

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Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:43 pm quote
And a glamour shot of it. I think the white lower portion and the rose tint upper is spot on for this build.

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Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:48 pm quote
I also got a key ring holder from eBay. When I saw it, i knew I just had to have it!!!

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Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:03 am quote
thats great Brother W, i really like ur flyscreen and the guard
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Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:20 am quote
Do you have a link for those mirrors?
whodatschrome wrote:
I actually bought the legshield mirrors at the tail end of last summer, but I couldnít figure out the best way to mount them. I consider the Halcyon Staduim legshield mirrors the best out there.
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Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:52 am quote
Gravelrash2004 wrote:
Do you have a link for those mirrors?
whodatschrome wrote:
I actually bought the legshield mirrors at the tail end of last summer, but I couldnít figure out the best way to mount them. I consider the Halcyon Staduim legshield mirrors the best out there.
I consider Halcyon the best of the best, but if you buy more than one it adds up fast! https://www.amazon.com/s?k=halcyon+stadium+mirror&dc&qid=1569599296&ref=aw_s_fkmr0

https://classicpartsltd.com/classic-scooter-products.html?manufacturer=62
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Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:34 am quote
Thanks!
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