Is there an epidemic of Vespa thefts in North London?
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:48 am quote
Finally, an active deterrent.

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Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:20 am quote
Yeah...brilliant tactic by the Met. Knock em off and be buggered!! Nasty little sods these moped/scooter riders...

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Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:48 am quote
These new tactics should certainly decrease the activity of the toe rags.

Cheers to the Police.
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:23 am quote
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These new tactics should certainly decrease the activity of the toe rags.

Cheers to the Police.
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:40 am quote
The articles seem to be saying that not only is it not against policy for police to chase a suspect fleeing on a moped (sic) without a helmet it never was. That's good to hear. I always thought that was ridiculous.

It reminds me of the myth that if you ask and undercover cop if the are an officer of the court they have to tell you. Good luck with that.
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:12 pm quote
vintage red matthew wrote:
The articles seem to be saying that not only is it not against policy for police to chase a suspect fleeing on a moped (sic) without a helmet it never was. That's good to hear. I always thought that was ridiculous.

It reminds me of the myth that if you ask and undercover cop if the are an officer of the court they have to tell you. Good luck with that.
It was never a totally black and white situation where a pursuit must be abandoned if they took off a crash helmet.

What was the case was that they were almost always ordered to discontinue because of the increased risk of injury. If the suspect was wanted for murder or other very serious offences, the roads were dry and free of traffic and speeds were low then they might be allowed to continue. For a less serious offence then it would be called off.

Now the range of circumstances where they can continue is much wider.
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:23 pm quote
I have to say, I watched those videos with great satisfaction. Can we have some more please!!!
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:33 pm quote
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I have to say, I watched those videos with great satisfaction. Can we have some more please!!!
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Most of them look painful, but not too serious. Thereís one just before the end that looks like they got punted under another car. Unfortunately the clip ends a bit too soon.
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Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:02 am quote
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tonymarchman wrote:
I have to say, I watched those videos with great satisfaction. Can we have some more please!!!
Tony in Tn
Most of them look painful, but not too serious. Thereís one just before the end that looks like they got punted under another car. Unfortunately the clip ends a bit too soon.
Maybe it's on the extended DVD directors cut
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Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:22 pm quote
Shouldnít laugh, but....

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Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:16 pm quote
At that rate, they'll run out of fender (wing) soon.

But a good way to keep score and is visible for all (including the toe rags) to see.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:56 am quote
Theyíve just done a Jeremy Vine phone in on this on Radio 2. I mean about the Polices new ram tactics.

So far in total there have been 63 bikes rammed.

Nobody so far seriously injured.

The knocks are only being done by specially trained current pursuit officers...... not any bobby.

They donít knock off simple bike thefts.

They do knock off vicous attackers who have either used the bike to rob other bikes or robbed say pedestrians.

All sounds extremely well organised and justified.
50% drop in London since, and 33% drop across the country.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:36 am quote
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Theyíve just done a Jeremy Vine phone in on this on Radio 2. I mean about the Polices new ram tactics.

So far in total there have been 63 bikes rammed.

Nobody so far seriously injured.

The knocks are only being done by specially trained current pursuit officers...... not any bobby.

They donít knock off simple bike thefts.

They do knock off vicous attackers who have either used the bike to rob other bikes or robbed say pedestrians.

All sounds extremely well organised and justified.
50% drop in London since, and 33% drop across the country.
Brilliant! I love it. Letís hope the UK stays vigilant and brings this rate much lower.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:38 am quote
And the scooter-kill decals on the the patrol cars is a great idea. Subtly letís the criminals know what waits ahead and the public know they are getting results!
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:58 pm quote
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50% drop in London since, and 33% drop across the country.
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:13 am quote
Things are getting out of hand
https://twitter.com/FSCKeswick/status/1070071651025543175

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Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:19 am quote
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https://twitter.com/FSCKeswick/status/1070071651025543175

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Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:40 am quote
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Happy to see he got her back even with "500" in damage. Wonder if he'll insure the next one.
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:52 am quote
Some good views of the suburban London
This guy has some cojones

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Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:56 am quote
bit confused...
Does anyone know the story behind the 14 year old scooter rider stabbed to death a couple of days ago in London? I assume, because of his age, that the the bike was stolen but the media hasn't given much info out.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:50 am quote
Judging from the little thatís come out, the scooter is probably little to do with it.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:57 am quote
Not that he should have been riding anything at 14, but I think it was a Honda SH300. I find it hard to believe it was a random attack and was very likely mixed in with gangs and crime.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:11 am quote
Re: bit confused...
robinm wrote:
Does anyone know the story behind the 14 year old scooter rider stabbed to death a couple of days ago in London? I assume, because of his age, that the the bike was stolen but the media hasn't given much info out.
On a positive note, one less in the gene pool.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:20 am quote
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robinm wrote:
Does anyone know the story behind the 14 year old scooter rider stabbed to death a couple of days ago in London? I assume, because of his age, that the the bike was stolen but the media hasn't given much info out.
On a positive note, one less in the gene pool.
Iím not sure that smiley faces about a 14 year old boy being stabbed to death are appropriate.

It doesnít look like he was an entirely innocent party here, but thereís nothing to suggest he deserved to die.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:23 am quote
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EN82pg wrote:
robinm wrote:
Does anyone know the story behind the 14 year old scooter rider stabbed to death a couple of days ago in London? I assume, because of his age, that the the bike was stolen but the media hasn't given much info out.
On a positive note, one less in the gene pool.
Iím not sure that smiley faces about a 14 year old boy being stabbed to death are appropriate.

It doesnít look like he was an entirely innocent party here, but thereís nothing to suggest he deserved to die.
Putting oneself in harms way and suffering the consequences is not the smart thing to do.
Being a "gangsta" in my teens, carrying a shiv, I made sure of never getting in harms way. As a result, never had to use the shiv. Thus my contribution to the gene pool was assured.
Smiley used simply to lighten the impact of the statement.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:16 am quote
Still, IMO inappropriate to put a smiley for a child's death. Even if he was a gang member, no one knows his level of involvement. Many times in many poorer locations, youth are forced to choose a gang to be 'affiliated' with. Just so a rival gang doesn't get to claim them. That doesn't automatically make them murderers, or even thieves, and neither should responsible adults automatically cheer their death.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:19 am quote
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Still, IMO inappropriate to put a smiley for a child's death. Even if he was a gang member, no one knows his level of involvement. Many times in many poorer locations, youth are forced to choose a gang to be 'affiliated' with. Just so a rival gang doesn't get to claim them. That doesn't automatically make them murderers, or even thieves, and neither should responsible adults automatically cheer their death.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:25 am quote
Vintage1 wrote:
Still, IMO inappropriate to put a smiley for a child's death. Even if he was a gang member, no one knows his level of involvement. Many times in many poorer locations, youth are forced to choose a gang to be 'affiliated' with. Just so a rival gang doesn't get to claim them. That doesn't automatically make them murderers, or even thieves, and neither should responsible adults automatically cheer their death.
I Know En82 well enough to know he wasn't trying to be malicious and I'm sure he regrets the post. Let's try and not now beat him down with constant bad karmas. Is that really a solution? Things can really get out of control here and users ganged up on. I almost NEVER use negative karma as a putative measure, discussion makes more sense.

Of course the true irony is I may get negative karma now even though I agree, it was not a good post. No kid should die because they make some mistakes. The problem that causes needs to be fixed, the gangs. Sad thing is that gang leaders were most likely the same kid when they were young. We discuss a lot of things on MV though and that's great. I just wish politics and came up less as well as societal issues. But it's what it is. If I was a mod I would consider shutting his thread won now or at least heavily editing it.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:42 am quote
Nevermind.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:46 am quote
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You quoted me before your comment. I just want to say I for the most part don't even use negative karma, and I didn't rate him negatively.
Not saying that at all Vintage, it's just your post was the last one speaking to the issue that what he said was not maybe the best comment. Some others certainly dinged him though and I just don't want the guy getting hammered for it. Things can snowball here easily enough and I know you know that.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:55 am quote
This thread minus a few comments and they are very few is a great thread, especially for us actually in the UK to keep informed on whatís going on.

And as above I too never use karma against anyone in a negative way just positive as itís not a nice thing to do on the quiet.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:56 am quote
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Vintage1 wrote:
You quoted me before your comment. I just want to say I for the most part don't even use negative karma, and I didn't rate him negatively.
Not saying that at all Vintage, it's just your post was the last one speaking to the issue that what he said was not maybe the best comment. Some others certainly dinged him though and I just don't want the guy getting hammered for it. Things can snowball here easily enough and I know you know that.
Agree!
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:07 pm quote
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This thread minus a few comments and they are very few is a great thread, especially for us actually in the UK to keep informed on whatís going on.

And as above I too never use karma against anyone in a negative way just positive as itís not a nice thing to do on the quiet.
Yeah I do think it's a good thread and would you prefer it not get locked. So I agree with you on that point it just needs to be kept in check so as not to spin out of control.

I'm starting to think MV may need a few more moderators as it may be some of the older mods are gone simply as a result of the passing of time. Jess checks in publicly maybe a couple of times a year and I'm not sure how involved he is in general. If he is the one that selects and manages moderators then it may have been a while since any have been added. As it is I can only think of 2 or 3 off the top of my head. Not saying they do a bad job, the complete opposite actually. Lord knows I'm no candidate but there may be a few here that are? It could be the moderators that are here would like some help. Still all in all this place is run well and is far from the being the wild wild west the internet can be.

*EDIT*

OK so in the realm of just plain creepy. I JUST submitted this post and all of a sudden when I backed out of a video on my Apple TV on YouTube this showed up. If you can't make it out the middle video is about the fall of the Wild West - go figure.

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Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:41 pm quote
Sorry if this link doesnít work for whatever computing reason, but another video of people fighting back.

https://www.facebook.com/PistonAddictz/videos/295244247904419/
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:05 am quote
gosh
It works a treat thank you.

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Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:27 am quote
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Sorry if this link doesnít work for whatever computing reason, but another video of people fighting back.

https://www.facebook.com/PistonAddictz/videos/295244247904419/
All I can say is too bad they didn't show more of the action.
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:54 am quote
Re: Hello from you
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https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/17445248.victims-of-motorbike-theft-share-their-stories/
That's a good read Bitza and BTW how're you doing?

Nice to see recoveries of bikes by concerned groups. Don"t imagine the local constabulary is too thrilled by the competition.
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Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:19 am quote
I live in the same town. The police are under staffed and over stretched.

They clearly say they call the police when they catch them so not exactly pitch forks and candles.

Iíve asked to join the Facebook page mentioned, as I sometimes see the helmetless kids wizz past on bikes.
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