GTS 250 instrument LCD display dimmed
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gts250ie
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:00 pm quote
Hi,
Has anyone changed a polarizing film on LCD display? I have a GTS 2006 250ie and the LCD display for the instrument is now hard to read. Especially during the daytime. The picture looks much better than I can see actually.
I tried to find out how to fix this issue, but I couldn't find any DIY except replacing an entire speedometer. So, now I am thinking that replacing a polarizing film on the LCD display may fix this issue. But, I want to know it can really fix this issue before I starting this.
So, has anyone tried to change a polarizing film? or Any suggestion or advice?
Thank you.

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Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:23 pm quote
I've tried to repair many an LCD, with very little success. If it comes to taking them apart the chance of fixing them is nil. 🙁

I've read that heating them with a hair dryer sometimes works. If you've got nothing to lose, give it a try. 🤔
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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:25 pm quote
The problem was probably brought on by heat - especially if the scoot has a windscreen and it was parked at the 'wrong' angle w.r.t. the sun.
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gts250ie
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:36 pm quote
Thank you for replying.
Jimc:
I don't have a windscreen.. I think I left my vespa too long under the sun (above 5 years).

JKJ-FZ6:
It's hard to see in the picture, the polarizing film on the LCD display is torn. So I'm not sure a hair dryer can help even this case. But thank you for the tip. By the way, could you advice me what I need to be careful to repair an LCD?

Thanks.
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:22 pm quote
Well, if you can get a piece of polarizing film you could give it a try. All I can advise is don't get fingerprints on it and don't allow air bubbles or dust under the film. Avoid disconnecting the electrical connections to the LCD. Good luck!
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:32 pm quote
If you find a solution let me know because my 2006 is also hard to see with the same sort of hazy section.
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Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:10 am quote
Suns a bitch. My Vespa logo on my cluster used to black, it's now gray. Sun's destroyed the black paint on it. My scooter isn't in the sun that much. I keep it in my RubberMaid shed or under the house (on stilts) when it's cooling down after a ride. Can't imagine what it would look like if it wasn't.
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GTS250ie
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:50 pm quote
I had similar dimmed lcd making hard to read at sunlight - did anyone fix this issue other that changing the whole block ?
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GTS250ie
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:32 pm quote
Had similar issue with dimmed LCD screen on a GTS250ie - advices welcome if it could be fixed other than buying a new Blick
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GTS250ie
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:52 pm quote
kitotof wrote:
I had similar dimmed lcd making hard to read at sunlight - did anyone fix this issue other that changing the whole block ?
This is what I found - is this can be done on a Vespa ?

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Vespa GTS250, PX125
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Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:28 pm quote
I've been frustrated with my faded panel on my 250 GTS for quite a while and finally took the time to do something about it. Came across this thread and got inspired by the last video posted on replacing the polarizing film on the LCD.

I bought an adhesive polarizing film and opened the dash panel and took out the LCD. I also had similar line cracks to the OP and was worried. Happened that those were cracks on a clear protective sheet on the bottom as well as a diffusor sheet behind the bottom polarizing sheet. I peeled off the polarizing sheet from top and bottom (as well as connected diffusor). Throughly cleaned the LCD. With a new polarizing sheet on top it was like I had a completely new LCD.

The polarizing sheet I have is not big enough to cut for both top and bottom, so I am waiting on a second sheet that I have ordered online. Once I have the second sheet I will put my headset back together and write a comprehensive post about my whole process with pictures and video.

Since my speedometer needle has also been faded I will also try to paint a fresh coat of reflective paint on it while the panel is open.
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2009 Vespa gts250 Super
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Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:44 pm quote
Cluster
This is my 09 Gts250ie

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I have a used unit on the way, but would like to fix this one.

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Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:04 pm quote
I fixed mine. You will need to make 2 polarizers and a reflector. I used anti glare polarizers from ebay ~$8, and mirrored privacy film also from ebay $2. the proces is pretty simple. peel off both old films, clean glass, spray both the new film and glass with iso alcohol, then squeegie on the new film. finally apply the mirror to the back of the screen. I tried also using a red tinted film (red with black lettering) and reversing the polarizer orientation (black with clear lettering), however both were too hard to read in the sun.

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2008 GTS 250
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:42 pm quote
Regular config

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GTS250
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:59 pm quote
raceratb, your instrument cluster looks great!! Mind sharing links to the items you purchased to make this repair? I'm about to repair my screen as well. Thanks in advance!!
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2008 GTS 250
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Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:55 pm quote
For the front polarizer:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282887844888
Search: polarizing film lcd matte

This should be better for the rear:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282518253190

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F303166064073
Search term: LCD polarizer back

I used 90 degree, the originals are 45 degree, but it doesn't matter since the film is oversized, and the alignment is relative to each other film.

Be sure to use lots of alcohol spray when applying the new films
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GTS250
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:21 am quote
Thanks for the parts list. Will tackle this project shortly!
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2008 GTS 250
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:56 pm quote
Just a tip, wait several days before you reinstall or trim the edges, so you don't lift the edges. Also, make sure you fully trim back the edges or the pressure from the sides and clips will lift it. This is what the old polarizers looked like.

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GTS250
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:22 am quote
Completed this repair today and it worked like a charm. The old polarization filters were damaged due to excessive UV exposure. Photos of before and after included below. Now I can see the display in bright sunlight

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Before Repair.

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After Repair :)

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2008 GTS 250
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:32 am quote
Did you end up going with the rear polarizer with the silver or the reflective film
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GTS250
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:53 am quote
If I'm not mistaken, I believe I ordered the exact parts you mentioned which included the rear film with mirror/reflective backing. I used the rear film with the reflective backing, but I will say that it was still a bit transparent unlike the original rear film. Under bright light it has a bit of a yellow hue to it and not grey. I'll try to snap a photo of it when I'm outside.

Also if your interested, PM me your address and I would gladly mail you a film for you to use/try since I had to order a few as part of the minimum order.
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