New Zealand assembled 180SS
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Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:02 am quote
So here it is in September and I havenít posted on this thread since April. So much has happened, but slowly. The scooter has been at the panel beater, then had some bead blasting done to it in Cambridge then back to the panel beater and a bill about $2000 bigger than planned due to unforeseen rust. Again, I decided that scrimping now would only upset me later so the work was done. I took a little consolation from looking at a project they are working on to restore an old (1960s) Austin ice cream truck like Mr. Whippy for a local artisan ice cream company. If they havenít spent $40,000 they havenít spent a cent! I look forward to enjoying an ice cream this summer.
The panel work is all complete and the painter has everything as of today. He expects to get onto the job next week and hopefully I will have a million pieces to reconstruct soon.
Discussion with my local Vespa 🛵 dealer suggested that winter isnít the best time for them to be doing restoration work as many clients have their maintenance done while itís wet and a bit cool. We donít get extremes of weather in Hamilton, frost is about as bad as it gets here, and being dairy country the farmers think we are in full drought conditions if it doesnít rain in a 7 day period. We have had a wet winter so plenty of bikes and scooters passed through the workshop.
I will update with photos when I get all the bits back from the painter.
Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:08 pm quote
Yesterday, Friday 1 February I visited my painter as I hadnít heard anything. He wasnít there but his team showed me the body in primer and asked me about which bits in the container were to be painted silver. Thatís one of the dangers of the painter doing it as a filler between car work. With that sorted, and me giving them the paint code for the silver, they showed me what has been painted red. The glovebox and door are done as are both pods and the top of the fuel tank. They look great, and if the body comes out that well I will be very happy. Photos when all is done.
Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Sat May 11, 2019 6:37 pm quote
It seems so long since I last reported on how Gina was coming along, and it has been. However, I was talking to the painter last week and it appears that I will be able to pick up all the bits tomorrow, Monday 13 May. When/if I get her home I will get photos and post a few here. Can't wait.
Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Tue May 14, 2019 2:32 am quote
So; I didn't get everything back as the painter was not satisfied with his own work where some paint had come through holes from the underside and left little runs. Maybe tomorrow, Wednesday, but we will see. I did bring home the glovebox, the glovebox door, the fuel tank, the fuel tank lid and cross piece along with all the rims and other silver parts. Still need to get the body, side pods and headset along with the fork. More information as it comes to hand, and photos once I have it all.
Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Thu May 16, 2019 3:14 am quote
Finally got a call from the painter to say that everything was finished. He was happy to have me pick it all up and will send me a bill. That bit is a little scary; I will worry about it when it arrives.
We loaded the cowls and mudguard into the boot (trunk) and the fork behind the front seats, then realised we had the headset so back to the boot and it found room, then the body had to go into the car. We debated whether it would fit on the back seat (Alfa Romeo 156) and decided it would. Initially it looked like the door wouldn't close but a careful lift of the rear put it up on the armrest and a bit of a twist and the left door closed. Phew.
I unloaded it all at home by myself and I took a few photos to continue the record. In case anyone isn't sure, the area inside the body where the tank fits is finished in the original primer as they were in their day.

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The body.

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Left Pod

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Right side pod.

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Fri May 17, 2019 10:28 am quote
Very nice. Is that single stage or base + clear?
Molto Verboso
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Fri May 17, 2019 10:10 pm quote
It's a 2K paint (I don't recall the brand, but will post when I get the leftover back from the painter) with clear that has been buffed by the painter. The colour was matched to the original unfaded NZ red that the paint supplier inside the body.
He usually uses Sikkens 2K with clear. His specialty is hot rods but his bread and butter work is tidying up cars for car yards.

Today I spent a couple of hours in the garage, initially trying to fit new studs to one of the brake drums, then I fitted the chrome leg shield trim. Slow steps to avoid rushing the job.
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Fri May 17, 2019 11:16 pm quote
Thats looking great Mr Piggy
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Sat May 18, 2019 8:02 pm quote
Look nice looking forward to seeing it come together
Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Mon May 20, 2019 2:37 am quote
Well; the process has begun! A few hours in the garage have meant there are a few pieces in place.
I started by attempting to fit the new studs into the bub that had been repaired. All the wheel studs on that one were damaged and removed when the repair to the fins was being done. I had 5 new studs from SIP and started to wind them in. My reading suggested that the old trick of winding 2 nuts together wasn't wise. I need to know what is wise now as only one stud was keen to wind anywhere near to the bottom of the hole so it's back to the drawing board on that one.
Next I added the chrome leg shield trim. The body and trim had been dry fitted prior to painting so it was just incumbent on me to fit it without scratching the paint. The panelbeater had put masking tape on the chrome to protect it and I have left it there in the meantime. After the initial placement of the trim I used a small tie down strap to gently pull in on the trim at each of the three screw levels down the side. As I did the uppermost the top pulled together and I gently tightened the two screws on the horizontal part of the trim and did the same with the top screws, then moved down to the next screws then down to the bottom. I have a terrible propensity to scratching new paint with screwdrivers so I was extremely cautious as I tightened the screws. Somehow I managed to get them all done without any extraneous scratches.
This afternoon I fitted the intake pipe from the body to the rubber bellows. The gasket is the original, as are the nuts and bits which I had cadmium plated at a local aircraft manufacturer. They are not shiny and I believe that this is how they started their life. I have had to add some new washers as they had gone missing since 1965. Then, I put the Vespa SS badge onto the leg shield using the SIP riveting tool. Initially I was a little confused by the tool but putting it together made it clear how it works and it did the job well.
More as I get more done.

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Intake 1

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Intake 2

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Legshield badge.

Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Sun May 26, 2019 10:41 pm quote
More time in the garage and a bit of progress. I also realised that I hadn't ordered cables or a wiring loom so I did that last night and delivery is expected in 3 - 5 days. We shall see.
I pulled out the floor runners and rivets, end pieces etc. and fitted those. That wasn't without drama as the centre one on each side was too long and the top hole (where it was too long) was also not in the correct location. This was disappointing considering that the panelbeater had both the body and the runners while he worked on it. Shortening the runners was easy, adjusting the hole location was carried out by elongating the existing hole. On opening the packet of rivets there turned out to be two more of the longer 4mm rivets than needed and 1 too few of the small 3mm rivets. Interestingly (to me anyway) the 4mm rivets are longer than the gap in the SIP riveting tool. They needed to be cut so that they could be crushed into place. Only one needed to be longer and that was one of the 4mm ones that went through the crossmember - but only on one side. The joys of local production. A note last night on the local Vespa Club page located a rivet for the missing one so I spent today fitting the rear badge, fitting the rubber in all but one of the floor rails, and putting on the horncast badge. Feels good to get some visible progress.

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Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Wed May 29, 2019 2:49 am quote
A question.
So, while I wait for my bits from SIP (they have despatched it toady midday in Germany) I thought I would do some little jobs. I have a new glovebox gasket from SIP that has to be glued to the inside of the glovebox door. But what glue to use. I thought I would ask my crafty (that is, she does all sorts of crafts) wife what she recommends. After all, the made costumes for Starlight Express using the material that wet suits are made from and glued all sorts of bits and pieces to it. However, she was stumped. We sort of think a contact adhesive is the way to go, but aren't sure so;

What have people on this forum used successfully to glue the foam gasket to the inside of the glovebox door.

I look forward to your advice.
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Wed May 29, 2019 8:27 am quote
Looking great so far!
Molto Verboso
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Thu May 30, 2019 2:44 am quote
And the final rivet (with spares) arrived today and I fitted it tonight. A photo of the rubbers fitted is below.

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Thu May 30, 2019 1:31 pm quote
Satisfying isnít it?
Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:57 pm quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Satisfying isnít it?
It certainly is. I find I have to curb a tendency to want to do things too quickly. Fitting the rear badge took over an hour as I cajoled the shape into it gently with thumbs and fingers being VERY careful not to overdo it. The satisfaction is worth the effort.
Now I am impatient for my cables and wiring loom etc. to arrive from SIP. I noticed my credit card has been charged
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Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:48 am quote
pigletpilot wrote:
SoCalGuy wrote:
Satisfying isnít it?
It certainly is. I find I have to curb a tendency to want to do things too quickly. Fitting the rear badge took over an hour as I cajoled the shape into it gently with thumbs and fingers being VERY careful not to overdo it. The satisfaction is worth the effort.
Now I am impatient for my cables and wiring loom etc. to arrive from SIP. I noticed my credit card has been charged
The"wiring diagram" provided with the SIP loom will temper your enthusiasm!
Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:43 pm quote
Ginch wrote:
The"wiring diagram" provided with the SIP loom will temper your enthusiasm!
I have heard that, but the one that came with the scooter was a very sad collection of old copper wires inside dodgy old plastic surrounds with plenty of cracks in the plastic to let the electricity out. I will come back here for comfort if it all gets too much at any stage.
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Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:58 am quote
In case you havenít already seen it, take a look at mr.10ís Rally build. His gallery of 200+ quality pics are a priceless, step-by-step that will inspire and help as you proceed with yours.

https://gallery.vespresso.nl/mr10/Rally200
Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:43 pm quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
In case you havenít already seen it, take a look at mr.10ís Rally build. His gallery of 200+ quality pics are a priceless, step-by-step that will inspire and help as you proceed with yours.

https://gallery.vespresso.nl/mr10/Rally200
Thanks, that's this afternoon filled up on a cold miserable winters day.
Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:51 am quote
So I started by trying to get the new SIP wiring loom in place. I ran a pull string first, and, to cut a long story short, spent more than a few hours getting the guts of it under that tricky bulkhead. I kept reminding myself that I didn't have a deadline so if I felt frustration coming on I would cover her up and walk away. Then, as if by magic, early this week the first of the loom appeared without swearing of any tearing of the protective outer cover at the horn hole. I gently pushed from the spine and continued to pull from the front of the scoot until I had all the handlebar wires out the front and I then pulled the brake pedal switch wires through and fed the appropriate wires up the steering column area.
All I have to do now is get the three tail/stop light wires down the tube to the rear and I can look at running the cables.
It's a slow but satisfying job.

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Etch primed inner spine showing the bulkhead and lack of space.

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Horn wires at the horn hole

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Out through the steering column

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Brake switch wires with draw wire still attached.

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Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:34 am quote
Red Hot SS!
I'm happy to see your progress! Looks great so far, and good job getting the wiring through the tunnel. Rear badge fit looks nice. I have an '68 SS USA version, which will be put together some day in the future Following along with your progress
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:04 pm quote
Looking good. Nice job though.
Molto Verboso
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:11 am quote
There has been a little progress, and one sticking point. I have 2 of the 3 wires through the tube to the rear light, and the earth wire is close but I can't quite hook it to pull it through. After a couple of hours of pushing and poking and trying to remain patient I gave up and looked at fitting the trim to the mudguard and side pods. I had a new set of trim clips, and the replacement special bolts to hold the mudguard to the fork. I started with that trim piece and after a little tweaking of the curve of the right hand trim it was all on and nipped up. Then I went to the left side and that was much quicker. Then it was lining them up and tightening them down - successfully. I then moved to the engine side pod and fiddled with the curvature of the trim, wriggled the trim clips in and got them through the holes. A quick nip up has the trim held in place. Then I went to do the spare wheel pod and, horror of horror, only 2 trim clips when I needed three. I stopped!
I dropped into the local Vespa dealer today knowing he has a NZ assembled 180SS being restored and tried to steal a clip off him but he hasn't ordered them yet, so I will have to be patient and get another.
I also found out that the recently arrived glovebox lock doesn't fit through the hole, by about half a mm. Dremel tool and later protective paint will be needed methinks.
Molto Verboso
Gina, 1965 Vespa 180SS, Bella,1968 Vespa 150 Super, (Both NZ new Airco assembled), Francesca, 2006 Vespa LX150, Sofia, 2007 Vespa GT200
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:12 am quote
Re: Red Hot SS!
GeekLion wrote:
I'm happy to see your progress! Looks great so far, and good job getting the wiring through the tunnel. Rear badge fit looks nice. I have an '68 SS USA version, which will be put together some day in the future Following along with your progress
Thanks. I just have to curb my natural impatience.
Molto Verboso
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Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:12 am quote
leoleus92 wrote:
Looking good. Nice job though.
Thanks
Molto Verboso
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:19 am quote
Pictures Please
When Sofia arrived she didn't have either the speedo cable or the front brake cable in place. I would really appreciate it if anyone has a photo or photos of the cables at both the bottom and the top of the steering column, preferably without the mudguard (fender) in place. They don't need to be connected up to their respective ends, I'm really just looking to see how they come down and out of the column. I will also post this in the NSM forum. Thanks in anticipation.
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Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:32 am quote
A friend has one. I'll try to get you some pics. Your bike is looking sharp, almost makes me want me some new paint too.
Molto Verboso
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Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:13 pm quote
V oodoo wrote:
A friend has one. I'll try to get you some pics. Your bike is looking sharp, almost makes me want me some new paint too.
Thanks, I found one of my dismantling photos and the brake cable was in, but I still want to be sure I have it correct before I commit to putting the mudguard on etc.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:08 am quote
Time for another report and a few more photos.
I have fitted all the trims to the pods and front mudguard, and also put the rubbers on the pods and trimmed them to length. I have light tack masking tape on at the moment while the rubber gets a memory of the correct shape.
Having done that I decided it was time to reattach the front hub to the fork. I had a new axle kit for that, with all 36 individual rollers to be fitted. I had visions of getting them all set in properly then nudging them on assembly and having them escape on to the floor. So I started and did one side on an afternoon and with a few drops of grease on the inner washer left it all alone overnight. I knew I needed to be able to get the axle in one side to the edge of the washer, then pop the fork in, and . . . . . . what next? How do I keep everything in place on the other side? So I measured the axle diameter, and decided my long reach 10mm socket looked about the same so I measured that and bingo, it was within 0.01mm of the axle. So the following morning I put the axle and the socket in the freezer and gently put the second lot of 18 rollers in place on the second side. Again a few dabs of grease held the washer in place. I carefully measured the resulting gap and checked it against the width of the fork and it was again very similar so the time arrived to get it all together. I quietly slid the axle into one side until it reached the end of the washer, and did the same with the socket on the other side. Then the big test, slide the fork into place. A gentle tap or two had the axle on its way through the well greased fork, and out the other side forcing the socket out.

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Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:37 am quote
Nice to see youíre making progress. You might consider putting a blanket or towel down over the floor to protect that lovely paint from an accidentally dropped bolt or wrench. Ask me how I know.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:41 pm quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Nice to see youíre making progress. You might consider putting a blanket or towel down over the floor to protect that lovely paint from an accidentally dropped bolt or wrench. Ask me how I know.
You have just seen her unclothed, unless I am actually doing some work on her she is fully covered.
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Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:23 am quote
So outstanding, beautiful vespa. Congratulations
Molto Verboso
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Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:26 am quote
CORRADINO wrote:
So outstanding, beautiful vespa. Congratulations
Thanks, it's slow but satisfying. I have started putting the fork together, but my "part time casual" retirement job has kept me out of the garage lately. Perhaps a report again next week.
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