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Ossessionato
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:04 am quote
https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/yamaha-niken-is-ridiculous-and-awesome

It looks like Yamaha's going back to the 3 wheel well at the motorcycle shows this fall/winter again. So, what do you think the chances are that this one is actually going to reach the market?

Mark
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:53 am quote
I would like to ride one but I am not holding my breath it will EVER be produced and sold in the USA.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:38 pm quote
No suspension lock!

Would not want to try pushing this around
Looks fantastic though and chain drive
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:46 pm quote
Damn, you beat me to it! I saw it when I was at work and was going to post it when I got home and completely spaced.

I'm really excited about this. I can understand OAD's skepticism, but I feel kinda good about this. The fact that it looks like a slight refinement of the MWT-9 they showed off a couple years ago suggests to me that they're kinda serious about it this time. I'll be watching it closely, I'd love to graduate up to one of these.

And can we just take a moment to talk about how batcrap insane the mishmash concept that is the announcement trailer is? I couldn't stop laughing up until they showed the actual bike.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:41 pm quote
Having been riding a Fuoco for almost a decade I'm interested in the concept, but the front end looks a bit too massive for my taste. Still the proof of the pudding....

May not be all that quick though; did anyone else notice that at 1.25 of the video the speedo appeared to show '43'? K's or Miles isn't clear but it's not as quick as it appears on screen IMHO
Ossessionato
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:24 pm quote
I'm curious but might find it's weight a real turnoff. Now that I see it only has a side stand, not interested in it any more. If any leaning trike doesn't have a lock upright feature comparable to the MP3s, I'm not interested in it.
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:19 pm quote
Going from 30.5" to 34.8" wide isn't a deal breaker to me, but the lack of a center stand is a little concerning. I can only assume the front fork locks, but I need a reliable fallback in case that fails.

Also, the Niken is already listed on the Yamaha Motorsports website with a signup to test drive when they come. It looks like they're pretty committed at this point to both releasing it and bringing it stateside.
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:49 pm quote
link to sign up for a test ride, if it comes to the USA.
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-touring/pages/ride-the-revolution
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:11 am quote
It leans pretty well.

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Ossessionato
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:16 pm quote
Are those pics you took yourself? Guess that would explain where you saw the Tri-city...
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:13 pm quote
CubsKing99 wrote:
Are those pics you took yourself? Guess that would explain where you saw the Tri-city...
I saw the tri-city on the street, and thought it had a tilt lock, then I saw one here and took this photo. I realized soon after that the front wheels were clamped upright to the floor. Duuuh....

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Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:46 pm quote
If you have to ask the price ...
It will supposedly be on sale in the fall of 2018 in the USA as a 2019 model. Yamaha refuses to give even a hint of the retail price. They say they will not release the price until just before they go on sale here. I would guess it would have to run at least $16,000.00 and maybe a lot more.
That makes buying a new MP3 500 a more attractive option to me.
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:22 am quote
More photos of the Niken.

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Ossessionato
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:25 am quote
According to Cycle World, it's not a concept but a preview of a 2019 bike coming to the US sometime mid 2018. They give some specs, too.

847cc 3-cylinder
6 Speed standard transmission with electronic quick shifter
45 degree lean angle
15 in. front wheels
Traction control
Ride modes
ABS
Cruise control

I will be very interested to take that test ride, if they bother to get any of them at nearby dealers...
Hooked
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Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:43 am quote
When is it coming to the UK ?

Does it count as a trike ?

where can I sign up ??

oh no its all over !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Importantly, Yamaha says that the bike’s front track – the distance between the centrelines of the two front wheels – is 410mm. That means it won’t fall into the same loophole as the Piaggio MP3 LT, which can be ridden on a car driving licence in some European countries, including the UK, as long as the rider is over 21. The law specifies that if the front track is less than 460mm (the MP3 LT’s is 465mm), then the wheels are considered to be ‘twinned’ and legally considered as one wheel. That means, despite the clear evidence to the contrary, the law sees the NIKEN as having only two wheels… And riders will therefore need a full motorcycle licence to operate it.
Hooked
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Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:39 am quote
I have emailed Yamaha my disapointment on this oversight for the EU market and will post any response on this post.
Hooked
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:38 am quote
Not completely sure, but I believe that within EU there is also a requirement for a foot brake. But I know what you mean Brasseye, would be great if Yamaha would create a car licence sportbike. Considering their Tricity FAIL, it would not surprise me though if they don't dare to do this...
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:01 am quote
Yes good point Yoss seems like its going to be another missed opportunity by Yammaha.
Not seen anything about a foot brake apart from the usuall right foor rear brake.
Ossessionato
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Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:16 am quote
I happen to see a Youtube Video this morning on Motorcycle Updates for 2018. The 3 Wheel Yamaha is supposed to be in the US in April 2018.
I can't wait to check it out.

Keith,
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Hooked
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Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:31 am quote
Still no ansa from Yamaha. Maybe they are not bothered ?
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:02 am quote
Brasseye wrote:
Still no ansa from Yamaha. Maybe they are not bothered ?
Are you asking a dealer or Yamaha? A salesman at a dealership isn't going to have clue what coming in next year.
Hooked
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Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:18 am quote
WEB-Tech wrote:
Brasseye wrote:
Still no ansa from Yamaha. Maybe they are not bothered ?
Are you asking a dealer or Yamaha? A salesman at a dealership isn't going to have clue what coming in next year.
Sent to yamaha UK after a phone call to them. to be forwarded to yamaha Japan
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:21 am quote
I dig it especially the front end design.
Ossessionato
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:59 am quote
Yamaha made the choice not to enter it as a trike for the EU they didn't it for the Tricity its also classed as L3e motorcycle

but in germany there is a manufactorer that build kits for rebuild to L5e trike for the tricity
Hooked
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:52 am quote
No reply yet from Yamaha. They are not bothered about selling this in the EU maybe the US market will create some sales ?

Shame really a missed opportunity.
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:28 am quote
i'm working on a Tricity with atleast a 250cc got a majesty 250 to brake down in parts and when i can find a wreckt T-Max 530 with a 530 in it

Registered as a L5E Trike
Hooked
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Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:44 am quote
Maksor wrote:
i'm working on a Tricity with atleast a 250cc got a majesty 250 to brake down in parts and when i can find a wreckt T-Max 530 with a 530 in it

Registered as a L5E Trike
Wow sounds a blast. What do you calculate the weight to be with a T-max 530 fitted ?
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Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:32 pm quote
Maksor wrote:
i'm working on a Tricity with atleast a 250cc got a majesty 250 to brake down in parts and when i can find a wreckt T-Max 530 with a 530 in it

Registered as a L5E Trike
That's my kind of crazy....
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Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:50 am quote
Wow would love one
Ossessionato
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Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:28 am quote
Just got an email from Yamaha with a link to their "information" page for the Niken:

https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-touring/pages/lmw-leaning-multi-wheeler

Of course, the only info I could find on there are the YouTube videos...

The banner at the bottom of the email says "Available 2nd Half of 2018", so they're apparently targeting release sometime in the next 3 to 9 months.

Mark
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Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:08 am quote
I received that email too.
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Mon May 07, 2018 3:50 pm quote
Looks brill shame can’t ride on car license
Hooked
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Thu May 31, 2018 8:03 pm quote
There is a video from that article on youtube.

Upon reviewing the front track specs, it is 16.1" or 40.9cm wide, therefore requiring a motorcycle license in Europe

I really like that though and since I am working towards getting my motorcycle license, got something to look forward to.

Starting price around 16k is quite steep though but you do get a lot of bike.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:53 am quote
now hoping Yamaha will bring it out with a 1300AS instead of the 800cc MT-09 engine
Ossessionato
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:03 am quote
for every rider who wants to use these vehicles with their car licence, i'll show you a rider who has a bike licence and doesn't want to pay trike road tax, trike insurance and trike mot
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:18 am quote
Thats only in Britian I pay motorcycle road tax 8.- euro and car insuriance (cheaper) as a second car 35.- a month all risked, no MOT below 450kg no mot requared

My X9 500 road tax 8.- insureance cheapest 65.- a year alllrisk is 660 no mot
Molto Verboso
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:32 am quote
CubsKing99 wrote:
Just got an email from Yamaha with a link to their "information" page for the Niken:

https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-touring/pages/lmw-leaning-multi-wheeler

Of course, the only info I could find on there are the YouTube videos...

The banner at the bottom of the email says "Available 2nd Half of 2018", so they're apparently targeting release sometime in the next 3 to 9 months.

Mark
Yamaha's website now says "Dealer inventory available November 2018"
And to contact your local dealer to check for availability.
Ossessionato
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:03 am quote
Vintage1 wrote:
Yamaha's website now says "Dealer inventory available November 2018"
And to contact your local dealer to check for availability.
<sarcasm> Gee, while 1/2 the country is preparing for (or already experiencing) winter sounds like a GREAT time of the year for a bike to drop!</sarcasm>

(And yes, the pun was intentional.)

Mark
Molto Verboso
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:21 am quote
Yeah, I thought the same. Notice they say it'll be available for dealers in November and to contact your local dealer for their inventory. I don't think many dealers put in orders for scooters in October/November in most USA locations. I wonder if the real availability will be next spring?!

I also think that a November availability wasn't intentional. I wonder how many ppl got fired over this?
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