Looking for high viz vest to wear over my armored jackets
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Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:04 pm quote
After getting hit a few weeks ago, I decided to do whatever I can to increase my conspicuity. I looked at 10s of high viz jackets but every high viz jacket I looked at was textile and I want leather on the impact areas with mesh on the sleeves, chest and back for warm weather riding. I couldn't find an acceptable one. There are a lot of leather jackets with high viz accents but I want one that screams motorcycle. BTW, the most conspicuous textile jacket I found was the Joe Rocket Phoenix 5.0. So I changed focus.

I started looking a high-vis vests to wear over my armored leather jackets. There are many high viz vests but some really stood out. Again, I really wanted one that screamed motorcycle. Like jackets, there are many vests with high viz accents and I ignored them. I ultimately decided to try four vests. I ordered all four and will return the ones that don't work out. One thing I was worried about on the vest was flapping in the wind but there are vests designed to minimize flapping. The vests I order all have pretty high user reviews.

I'll get them next Monday and will report back my finding.

Anyone have any strong recommendations for other vests I should consider.

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Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:48 am quote
Rev'It
I have been wearing the Rev'It on all my bikes for years. I felt it had the best combination of Hiviz and reflective front and rear. It absolutely does make a difference here in NY-NNJ traffic.
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Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:37 am quote
I’d been wearing an Icon Mil-spec HiViz for years. Good reflectivity, a couple useful pockets, didn’t flap, all the best points for me. I however broke the zipper but no biggie, it still worked and to get it replaced would be no great expense.
I stopped wearing it last season out of frustration because I had four incidents within three days where’d I almost been hit and they all said “I didn’t see you”
Two incidents were the same driver!!

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Tractor supply or walmart!
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Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:11 am quote
Any place that sells safety equipment. Menards, Home Depot ... visibility is visibility. If you already have the armor, you can pick up a vest for a few bucks.

I wear a safety yellow mesh vest over my Speed and Strength armor or my Wilson’s leather. You could probably even pick up a multi pack for very little.
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Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:51 am quote
I use the ICON pictured above. I got the Super Size one for going over jackets in the cold and loose fitting in the heat. Currently have the green color. Yes, people will still say they didnt see you but every little bit will help. I run my high beam during the day also.
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:18 am quote
If you are wearing it over a jacket, a hunting vest is a compact, easy to store, inexpensive solution. Get one that is snug over your jacket, so that it won’t flap around.
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:57 am quote
I might be interested in a high viz vest if it was mesh; is there such a thing? I think a solid vest would probably defeat the whole purpose of a mesh jacket in the warm weather.
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:23 pm quote
I remember when I passed my test I bought a Sam Brown reflective belt. It was certainly reflective but I found it a little embarrassing to wear to be honest. I suspect how you ride makes you more visible than what you ride in though.
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:53 pm quote
robinm wrote:
I remember when I passed my test I bought a Sam Brown reflective belt. It was certainly reflective but I found it a little embarrassing to wear to be honest. I suspect how you ride makes you more visible than what you ride in though.
Yes, I would feel silly too and do not wear reflective neon/bright gear. My gear does have reflective stripes on it but that's it. However to each their own and if someone wants to wear a neon vest on a Vespa and they feel the better for it, good for them.
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:54 pm quote
Hard to believe this discussion, i thought everyone knew of the value of mesh florescent, reflective vests. Just about the best safety item available.
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:38 pm quote
zigzagguzzi wrote:
Hard to believe this discussion, i thought everyone knew of the value of mesh florescent, reflective vests. Just about the best safety item available.
Yes, because you see them all over the place on the roads. Sure, OK.. construction sites. Sorry but I am just vain enough to not wear one riding around the city. I do wear armoured jackets most of the time which is WAY more than most riders in Toronto.

For urban riding in a scooter it seems like overkill. I do see people wearing them but I'd say the ratio is about 60-1 and for the most part BMW riders when I do see them. On a Vespa? Maybe once or twice and my guess it was probably the same person. Again if you want to rock a neon mesh vest, I get it, I really do. That however is a choice and not TBH what the majority of us wear.
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:59 pm quote
Fogie wrote:
I might be interested in a high viz vest if it was mesh; is there such a thing? I think a solid vest would probably defeat the whole purpose of a mesh jacket in the warm weather.
Yes! there are mesh hi viz vests. Plenty of them. Go shopping at a big sporting goods store,. or AMAZON or ebay.
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:25 pm quote
I'm thinking in California you need one of these Or as close as you can get to the right colour



And paint your helmet like this



If you were walking in Africa a you might notice a guy in a yellow jacket but your attention would be fixed on the lion you just saw.
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:25 pm quote
How about one of these? would that get you noticed?



More modern ones look like this.

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Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 pm quote
Re: Vest
This will flap like a lot in the wind as will any of the construction vests and they are not what I'm looking for.. Motorcycle vests likely not (I hope). We'll see next week.
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Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:44 pm quote
Harbinger wrote:
robinm wrote:
I remember when I passed my test I bought a Sam Brown reflective belt. It was certainly reflective but I found it a little embarrassing to wear to be honest. I suspect how you ride makes you more visible than what you ride in though.
Yes, I would feel silly too and do not wear reflective neon/bright gear. My gear does have reflective stripes on it but that's it. However to each their own and if someone wants to wear a neon vest on a Vespa and they feel the better for it, good for them.
Personally, I ride almost exclusively during the day and almost never at night so reflective stripes on riding gear are are relatively invisible. I'm looking for increased daytime visibility, hence the vest.

Even good friends hardly recognize me on my bikes so it doesn't really matter who I am under the helmet or vest.

And I'm am pretty vain so I didn't make this decision lightly. I have to say getting hit a few weeks ago has had a radical shift in my riding style and priorities. And you remove it once you stop.

Some people think wearing any motorcycle gear on a Vespa is not required and looks stupid.

I was really looking for opinions on specific vests, not whether or not I should wear one.


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Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:36 pm quote
I picked up this a few months ago for the winter riding. Just enough yellow for visibility I think.

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Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:32 am quote
I have been using my GT200 quite regularly in early morning traffic and decided it was time for a hi-viz to go over my protective jacket. I looked at the motorcycle specific styles and was a little shocked at the prices. I decided to go to the local PPE supplier and see if they had a hi-viz that fitted nicely over the existing gear. I got the most helpful assistant and we discussed my requirements. She suggested a size and I tried on the size she suggested. It’s a nice snug fit and stays on the jacket when I take it off. Despite my ample frame I am like Miguel, I want the best chance of being seen in traffic in the less than perfect light. Seems to be working so far. If it rains I have an awesomely bright Rev’it rain suit, can be seen a block away.
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Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:36 am quote
znomit wrote:
I picked up this a few months ago for the winter riding. Just enough yellow for visibility I think.
Nice, love the jacket and that is high viz tastefully done .
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Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:41 am quote
I have the Revit, where I live all motorcycle drivers must wear a hiviz vest with two vertical and two horizontal 2” reflective stripes, initially orange was mandatory, now yellow is acceptable. I had to add the additional reflective stripes to comply.

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Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:58 am quote
jimc wrote:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Equisafety-Air-Adjustable-Polite-Waistcoat/dp/B00H48KLWS
A twist on Police vests/jackets I assume. Clever!

Those are unavailable on the US Amazon site.

Jim, Do you purchase from Amazon UK. What's that experience like? Any issues?

THanks. Miguel
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Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:01 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
znomit wrote:
I picked up this a few months ago for the winter riding. Just enough yellow for visibility I think.
Nice, love the jacket and that is high viz tastefully done .
I agree, that is a nice looking jacket. The cost of replace my three current jackets is prohibitive, hence the vest interest. And I really want leather contact areas rather than textile.

Thanks for the recommendation!

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Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:27 am quote
Miguel wrote:
jimc wrote:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Equisafety-Air-Adjustable-Polite-Waistcoat/dp/B00H48KLWS
A twist on Police vests/jackets I assume. Clever!

Those are unavailable on the US Amazon site.

Jim, Do you purchase from Amazon UK. What's that experience like? Any issues?

THanks. Miguel
Only when I'm in the UK, which I am at the moment! However it also means I have to pay VAT of 20%, but that is always included in the advertised price.

I haven't ever tried buying from Amazon UK while in the US.
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Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:38 am quote
I have a sleeveless, full-length zipper, bright yellow cycling jersey I've worn over my jacket. It's lightweight, breathable and has those handy pockets in the rear.
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Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:14 pm quote
I have a Richa high viz vest - it fits very well, not flappy at all, but it does not breath as well as it should. It does have a mesh structure, but it still blocks a bit too much air and harms the otherwise good ventilation of my leather jacket.

So this is also a factor to pay attention to.
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Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:41 pm quote
jimc wrote:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Equisafety-Air-Adjustable-Polite-Waistcoat/dp/B00H48KLWS
The POLITE vest...
I wear this....because the only armored leather jacket in my size only comes in black. I want hi viz when I'm riding - so this is my vest of choice, over the black.
Frankly, this color yellow is much more visible than any orange....especially on cloudy days or low light riding times.
Purchased direct from the UK company.



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Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:31 pm quote
RRider wrote:
I have a Richa high viz vest - it fits very well, not flappy at all, but it does not breath as well as it should. It does have a mesh structure, but it still blocks a bit too much air and harms the otherwise good ventilation of my leather jacket.

So this is also a factor to pay attention to.
THanks RRider. Is the color a bight yellow or neon green?

Based on you feedback, I'll probably pass on it. I do want a vest that breathable. Also, what makes is so expensive? I thought you might have one of these. IIRC, you bought one of their winter jackets, right?

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Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:35 pm quote
OldSchooot wrote:
jimc wrote:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Equisafety-Air-Adjustable-Polite-Waistcoat/dp/B00H48KLWS
The POLITE vest...
I wear this....because the only armored leather jacket in my size only comes in black. I want hi viz when I'm riding - so this is my vest of choice, over the black.
Frankly, this color yellow is much more visible than any orange....especially on cloudy days or low light riding times.
Purchased direct from the UK company.



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Thanks OS. It looks great. Your picture makes it look neon green next to your yellow helmet. Is it really yellow? I agree with you on orange vs yellow incidentally.

Does it flap in the wind?

Is it mesh?

Cost?

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Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:21 am quote
Miguel wrote:
RRider wrote:
I have a Richa high viz vest - it fits very well, not flappy at all, but it does not breath as well as it should. It does have a mesh structure, but it still blocks a bit too much air and harms the otherwise good ventilation of my leather jacket.

So this is also a factor to pay attention to.
THanks RRider. Is the color a bight yellow or neon green?

Based on you feedback, I'll probably pass on it. I do want a vest that breathable. Also, what makes is so expensive? I thought you might have one of these. IIRC, you bought one of their winter jackets, right?

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Miguel
I think you got it wrong - mine is Richa, not Rukka...Richa is British brand, perhaps more focused on "good value for money" type of products than high end gear. It felt and looked good, so I thought to give it a try... but as said, the mesh structure does not work as well as I thought.

I do have quite a lot of gear from Rukka, but not a high viz vest. So far I've never been disappointed with the brand, but I have a feeling they are better the worse the environment gets - cold and rain they can handle, for hot weather other brands may have even better selection. I don't know anyone who would have this Rukka vest, so no experience there.

As for the color - I believe in yellow, it's hard to beat in visibility.
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:14 am quote
This is don't mind. Rev'it makes pretty good stuff and I have a lot of their gear. Also probably pretty available globally.

I'm not a fan of the fake police vest but that's just a personal opinion and a matter of respect. If you feel differently that is of course fine.

https://www.thevisorshop.com/Mobile/en/Revit-Vest-Connector-Hi-Vis-Vest/m-m-14915.aspx?PartnerID=16&gclid=CjwKCAjw7O_pBRA3EiwA_lmtfg1d7dLYS1S6r0PhgjOI5VDsI3YElE7NkQ1Von9b0gR9VUSsWzZ8XRoC9ikQAvD_BwE&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Canada
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:57 am quote
FWIW the $10 construction vest I bought at the hardware store fits quite snugly over my armored jackets and, especially behind a windscreen, doesn't flap around in the wind at all.
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:18 am quote
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I'm not a fan of the fake police vest but that's just a personal opinion and a matter of respect.
Harbinger. J hear you. I've Not seen a US LEO wearing such a vest so I don't think there's much confusion here. It sounds like there's considerable controversy in the UK tho, especially against those who ride white BMW bikes and wear the vests.

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Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:27 am quote
Miguel wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
I'm not a fan of the fake police vest but that's just a personal opinion and a matter of respect.
Harbinger. J hear you. I've Not seen a US LEO wearing such a vest so I don't think there's much confusion here. It sounds like there's considerable controversy in the UK tho, especially against those who ride white BMW bikes and wear the vests.

Miguel
True that. I think they look a bit pretentious, but I have always thought that anything that makes other road users pay a bit more attention to their riding/driving the better, and UK motorcycle Police friends of mine say the same.
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:44 am quote
jimc wrote:
Miguel wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
I'm not a fan of the fake police vest but that's just a personal opinion and a matter of respect.
Harbinger. J hear you. I've Not seen a US LEO wearing such a vest so I don't think there's much confusion here. It sounds like there's considerable controversy in the UK tho, especially against those who ride white BMW bikes and wear the vests.

Miguel
True that. I think they look a bit pretentious, but I have always thought that anything that makes other road users pay a bit more attention to their riding/driving the better, and UK motorcycle Police friends of mine say the same.
And according to what I read last night, UK Police have said that the vests aren't illegal since they don't say "Police" on them.

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Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:59 am quote
I ride with a long-sleeved Hi-Vis safety jacket that goes over any riding jacket I wear.
(Not in picture, which was taken to indicate effect of sleeves.!)
I find the sleeves assist in substantially increasing the visibility area.
I also only wear white helmets - with reflective patches for night visibility.

PS - The combination very similar to our Municipal Traffic Police, which also helps one to be noticed...!

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Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:34 am quote
Miguel wrote:
jimc wrote:
Miguel wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
I'm not a fan of the fake police vest but that's just a personal opinion and a matter of respect.
Harbinger. J hear you. I've Not seen a US LEO wearing such a vest so I don't think there's much confusion here. It sounds like there's considerable controversy in the UK tho, especially against those who ride white BMW bikes and wear the vests.

Miguel
True that. I think they look a bit pretentious, but I have always thought that anything that makes other road users pay a bit more attention to their riding/driving the better, and UK motorcycle Police friends of mine say the same.
And according to what I read last night, UK Police have said that the vests aren't illegal since they don't say "Police" on them.

Miguel
I don't think anyone was doubting the legality. If you feel looking like a LEO helps you and you have no problem with it I say go for it. I just personally would choose not to.
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Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:29 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
Miguel wrote:
jimc wrote:
Miguel wrote:
Harbinger wrote:
I'm not a fan of the fake police vest but that's just a personal opinion and a matter of respect.
Harbinger. J hear you. I've Not seen a US LEO wearing such a vest so I don't think there's much confusion here. It sounds like there's considerable controversy in the UK tho, especially against those who ride white BMW bikes and wear the vests.

Miguel
True that. I think they look a bit pretentious, but I have always thought that anything that makes other road users pay a bit more attention to their riding/driving the better, and UK motorcycle Police friends of mine say the same.
And according to what I read last night, UK Police have said that the vests aren't illegal since they don't say "Police" on them.

Miguel
I don't think anyone was doubting the legality. If you feel looking like a LEO helps you and you have no problem with it I say go for it. I just personally would choose not to.
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