how to tie down a scooter
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Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:05 pm quote
My wife and I decided to purchase a 5x8 utility (landscape) trailer to haul our two Vespa's. I installed a plywood floor and added large eye bolts (4) to the front of the trailer for tie downs. I can't seem to get them tied down as secure as I think they should be. Any suggestions? I'd prefer not to spend more cash on commercialy produced chocks such as the Condor. Grazie!
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Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:11 pm quote
Re: how to tie down a scooter
italianstallion wrote:
My wife and I decided to purchase a 5x8 utility (landscape) trailer to haul our two Vespa's. I installed a plywood floor and added large eye bolts (4) to the front of the trailer for tie downs. I can't seem to get them tied down as secure as I think they should be. Any suggestions? I'd prefer not to spend more cash on commercialy produced chocks such as the Condor. Grazie!
The eye-bolts should be in line with and under the handgrips, so it is pretty much a straight down pull when the front shock and spring are compressed.
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Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:19 pm quote
more eyebolts !
i had atleast 20 on my trailer
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Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:52 pm quote
You ARE using ratcheting tie-downs, right? You should set them so the forks are somewhat compressed and they are working in tension against the straps. Might also want to screw a 2x4 or 4x4 into the floor for the front tires to press against.

And it might not hurt to put a couple more eyelets in the rear of the trailer and use tie-downs there just to keep the rear ends from bouncing on big bumps.

Check out this thread for some advice: http://www.modernvespa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15855&highlight=

Good luck!
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Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:55 pm quote
eye bolts should not be directly under the handle bars...

they should be slightly in front of the bars to pull forward and down...


you need the following...

2 wheel chocks
4 eye bolts
4 tie downs
2 canyon dancer bar harness'

if you dont know what any of that is.... google...

those 12 items will tie down 2 scooters in a matter of minutes... and they won't move an inch...

canyon dancer bar harness = greatest invention of all time...
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Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:10 pm quote
face mechanic wrote:
eye bolts should not be directly under the handle bars...

they should be slightly in front of the bars to pull forward and down...


you need the following...

2 wheel chocks
4 eye bolts
4 tie downs
2 canyon dancer bar harness'

if you dont know what any of that is.... google...

those 12 items will tie down 2 scooters in a matter of minutes... and they won't move an inch...

canyon dancer bar harness = greatest invention of all time...
I neglected the qualifier "slightly" and wondered if someone wouldn't catch it. Yes, slightly ahead. The original poster said his bolts were in the front of the trailer and I imagined he might have them right in the front.

Here is a pic of the setup I have now which is very secure. Not my scoot and not the same model carrier, but almost identical.

50cc-Carrier-10.jpg

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Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:29 am quote
I would recommend using CycleCynch instead of Canyon Dancer. The Canyon Dancer may press against your switches on the handle bars. The CycleCynch does not.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:05 am quote
canyon dances all the way.

there are fairly inexpensive chocks you can get. got to any motorcycle shop and look at their catalogs they have, they usually can order what's in there. we ordered some from parts unlimited that fit scooters and they were only about $50 each. if you don't want to buy them you could make some out of plywood too.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:09 am quote
Tieing down a scooter?

With photos?!

Damn, I didn't know you guys featured scooter porn threads here.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:09 am quote
Ah the tie down thread. I have a fool proof technique for using the Pee Pee room without passing gas, but I'd have a hard time explaining how I do it; I'd just have to show you.
Before this trailer gets too complex, look at how other trailers are set up. Oh, and I use canyon dancers and HATE ratchet tie downs.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:33 pm quote
Here's how I did mine. Of course I only had one scoot.
My trailer and my tri-fold ramp are for sale.

Trailer22.jpg

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Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:53 pm quote
Bwyn wrote:
Here's how I did mine. Of course I only had one scoot.
My trailer and my tri-fold ramp are for sale.
I recognize that scooter!
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:43 pm quote
The trick is to keep the headset from turning to one side or the other. If that happens, one of your straps will loosen and your scooter bites the dust.

The easiest way to do that with your set up, is to secure a 4x4 across the front of your trailer for the front tires to butt up against. Then screw two pairs of 2x4s (1 for each scooter) perpendicular to the 4x4 and spaced so that the front wheel can roll between them and be held fairly tightly. Once the front wheel is immobilized, you can use any sort of straps to compress the front shocks and hold the scooter securely. A couple of straps on the rear, to keep the back tire from dancing around will complete the package.
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Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:36 pm quote
The deluxe setup is a Condor scooter chock:

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Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:39 pm quote
Re: how to tie down a scooter
italianstallion wrote:
My wife and I decided to purchase a 5x8 utility (landscape) trailer to haul our two Vespa's. I installed a plywood floor and added large eye bolts (4) to the front of the trailer for tie downs. I can't seem to get them tied down as secure as I think they should be. Any suggestions? I'd prefer not to spend more cash on commercialy produced chocks such as the Condor. Grazie!
Here's a pic of my trailer with inexpensive chock that I got at a motorcycle shop.

trailer bed-1.jpg

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