mp3 500 belts again
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:35 am quote
hi,guys

whats is the latest update for the transmission belt?

832738 or 849090

i have try to order from AF1/scooter west.
849090 seems to be the latest but is so much more expensive!
Pls advise.
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:16 am quote
In the UK, 832738 is considered to have superseded 849090, for all Master engines. Our US cousins disagree.
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:49 am quote
Holy cow, $100 difference! Whenever it comes time to replace mine would it be safe to use the 832738 instead of the much more expensive 849090?
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:52 am quote
71Brent wrote:
Holy cow, $100 difference! Whenever it comes time to replace mine would it be safe to use the 832738 instead of the much more expensive 849090?
Is metric a good way to measure distance?

(Kidding, but sort of serious. Personally I use the 849090 but that's just me. The rest of the world uses 832738 so it should be/must be fine. I go 10,000 miles on belts, and frequently go 2-up and/or 70-75 MPH.)
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:47 am quote
Madison Sully wrote:
Is metric a good way to measure distance?

(Kidding, but sort of serious. Personally I use the 849090 but that's just me. The rest of the world uses 832738 so it should be/must be fine. I go 10,000 miles on belts, and frequently go 2-up and/or 70-75 MPH.)
I've got almost 4,300 miles on mine now hopefully I don't have to worry about it for a while. I always ride by myself but I do a fair amount of 55-75 MPH riding. Just seems crazy that the prices would be different.
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Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:30 pm quote
i have bought a 2016 model at 2017.its almost 12k km now.going to have its first belt change.cannot see wats the belt number and measuredit at 27mm.its way below the minimum.
mostly 2 ups city riding ,daily transport!
anyone tried molossi belt?xk belt?
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:31 am quote
the 849090 is +/-1mm thicker on the newer ABS version piaggio installed a thicker washer in between the vario then the older 400/500

You can use both belts the 83 and 84 but the 83 is a lot cheaper and you will experience a fuzzy washer

its not a good idea to leave the belt longer then the recommeded 6000miles its will eat up your vario and then you have to buy an new one and that is more expensive then a belt change
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:49 pm quote
jimc wrote:
In the UK, 832738 is considered to have superseded 849090, for all Master engines. Our US cousins disagree.
why does piaggio continue to install the 849090 into new 2018 500's if the 832738 is superseding it?
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Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:37 pm quote
old as dirt wrote:
jimc wrote:
In the UK, 832738 is considered to have superseded 849090, for all Master engines. Our US cousins disagree.
why does piaggio continue to install the 849090 into new 2018 500's if the 832738 is superseding it?
No idea. As the longevity of the cheaper one is just as good as the more expensive (at least in my experience) your guess is as good as mine. Certainly the parts list for the X9 Evo (same engine as the Fuoco/MP3) showed it as superseded - we all took our cue from that. There's as much continuous rubber on both, just the expensive one has taller outer teeth, but less of them. If you want to use a Fuzzy washer, the cheaper one doesn't grind the transmission case...
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Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:22 am quote
I have both in my inventory.
The OEM 849090 looks to be a little bit "Wider" then 832738.
I have always considered the 832738 as a MP3/400 Belt.

Ive been using the Malossi equivalent to the 849090 which is similar and cheaper.

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Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:10 pm quote
The Malossi is about 1mm smaller then the 83
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Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:01 am quote
Maksor wrote:
The Malossi is about 1mm smaller then the 83
If the OP takes the time to search.
We had a long discussion on belts some time back.
I remember posting pictures.

The Malossi's I have are similar to the OEM 849090 purchased from Scooterpartsco.com. It could be a location of Manufacture thing ???
My 2016 500 Sport has the 849090, and I am sticking with OEM or the Malossi.

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Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:03 am quote
Re: mp3 500 belts again
echris108 wrote:
hi,guys

whats is the latest update for the transmission belt?

832738 or 849090

i have try to order from AF1/scooter west.
849090 seems to be the latest but is so much more expensive!
Pls advise.
Order from Scooterpartsco.com
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Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:00 pm quote
Piaggio sells 3 types of belts

827826 for the older M27460cc its 135.- euro resell
832738 for the 400/500 M34 master till the M64 99.- euro resell
849090 for the newer 500 from M643 and higher 115.- euro resell
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Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:17 pm quote
Has anyone tried a Dayco belt? It looks like they make a belt that fits but I haven't seen them mentioned in this thread or any of the old threads.
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Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:05 pm quote
When it rains, it pours....

This year, we weren't able to get OEM parts out of Piaggio right at the end of August from our usual suppliers, so we ordered from a bunch of different companies, then waited, and waited..... As luck would have it, everything we ordered before August and what we ordered right Italy went back to work, came in at once, more is coming in this week, and we now have a surfeit of Piaggio MP3 belts.
So we are going to sell off a bunch of them.

849090 $80
832738 $75

Buy any two or one and some other stuff, and the shipping will be free.
We also have way too many OEM 150 belts, and will probably be trying to get rid of a bunch of them too.
This is only until we get down to reasonable inventory levels, and not a forever price.
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Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:13 am quote
Motovista wrote:
When it rains, it pours....

This year, we weren't able to get OEM parts out of Piaggio right at the end of August from our usual suppliers, so we ordered from a bunch of different companies, then waited, and waited..... As luck would have it, everything we ordered before August and what we ordered right Italy went back to work, came in at once, more is coming in this week, and we now have a surfeit of Piaggio MP3 belts.
So we are going to sell off a bunch of them.

849090 $80
832738 $75

Buy any two or one and some other stuff, and the shipping will be free.
We also have way too many OEM 150 belts, and will probably be trying to get rid of a bunch of them too.
This is only until we get down to reasonable inventory levels, and not a forever price.
Wow, Great Price...
Wish I needed some.

Keith,
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Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:55 pm quote
klaborde wrote:
Wish I needed some.

Keith,
Marietta, GA
I have no idea why the 849090 belt is so expensive in the US. They are significantly cheaper to me than the Malossi belt (we are the largest Malossi distributor in the US, by a lot), and the difference in cost between the two Piaggio belts is less than $4.
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:50 am quote
Motovista wrote:
When it rains, it pours....

This year, we weren't able to get OEM parts out of Piaggio right at the end of August from our usual suppliers, so we ordered from a bunch of different companies, then waited, and waited..... As luck would have it, everything we ordered before August and what we ordered right Italy went back to work, came in at once, more is coming in this week, and we now have a surfeit of Piaggio MP3 belts.
So we are going to sell off a bunch of them.

849090 $80
832738 $75

Buy any two or one and some other stuff, and the shipping will be free.
We also have way too many OEM 150 belts, and will probably be trying to get rid of a bunch of them too.
This is only until we get down to reasonable inventory levels, and not a forever price.
Well, I just bought it from scooter parts but it runs at $90 and not $80.

1 x Piaggio Belt for Piaggio 400 and 500 Scooters and MP3 849090 (849090) = $89.98
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Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:57 am quote
Thank you scooter-part for the refund of the price difference. 👍
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