P200e - this time for real!
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Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
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Location: Florence, OR
Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:04 pm quote
Thanks to the MV family, and Voodoo in particular, Im getting a 1979 P200e!

So here is the story. You have probably read my earlier offer of a P200? The owners of that scooter changed their minds. BUT now I was pumped to get back to a shifting scooter. So Ive been looking for a P200, and trusting the vibe of the ad and timing of the universe to set things up. Which means I started checking a few places on a daily basis: scoot.net, craigslist in Seattle, Portland, SFbay, and the InlandEmpire. Ive seen a bunch of nice scooters, but nothing that said Call the seller!, until a red 79 P200 showed up in Seattle. I watched it for two weeks and almost called, then the ad timed out, and was reposted a couple of days later.

The issue with buying long distance is I cannot physically check it out and have to trust whoever is selling the bike. Now, I can read a person pretty good, but my wife does say Im a sucker for a good salesman. And this scooter looks good (in the two pictures posted!). Uh-oh, gotta listen to the wife.

In comes the MV community Im sitting there thinking who do I know in Seattle that can check this scooter out? and ding, V oodoo pops into my head. Have I ever met Terry no, but I feel like I know him through his posts. So I sent him a PM on the off-chance hed be willing to check it out for me.

Now everything starts to click I call the seller, the scooter sounds just what Im looking for: Original paint, low miles, not too abused, something that can use some polish and love. Then Terry gets back with me and says Sure, anything to help a fellow scooterist out, accruing good karma as a way of life.

So within a day, I called the seller, Terry checked it out (he tells me Buy it!), I transfer $$ via Paypal to Terry to be the broker, which he graciously agreed to do, and hes picking up the scooter tomorrow! Oh, and got my wife on board with me buying something instead of selling something!

Holp crap pinch me Im getting a P200! Woooohoooo! Super smooth when its meant to be, its meant to be.

Now, without the MV community, I wouldnt have felt comfortable enough to do this. Im very thankful for this community, and huge cudos to Voodoo! Thanks again!

Pretty good story huh? OK, I dont have the scooter yet, but when I do, Ill post pictures, cause I can hear it now (Im even saying it!) No Pictures, it didnt happen. Ha!

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 50s x2 78 P200 84 Cosa 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special + projects
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Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:27 pm quote
CL ad wrote:
Original condition, always garaged, 5600miles
new seat cover and tires, collector license plate
runs good
Well it wasn't perfect. There's a small scuff on the mudguard and that plastic bumper on the back has a crack in the corner. But other than that, it's what you would hope to find when you want a low mile original bike that was stared indoors being sold by a knowledgeable seller(several nice motorcycles) who just had it professionally serviced end to end.

One kick to start, shifts easily and brakes as it should on my test run around the block in light rain. Well worth the price and any hassle getting it down to Oregon. This one is gonna polish up real pretty! Here's the other pic again:

Hooked
Jet 200, P200E (x2), T5
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Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:11 pm quote
Great colorway! I've been looking for a burgundy P2 for a long time, and since those were only available in the late '70s (-early '80s maybe?), most of them have been repainted or retired since, it seems..

There was a beautiful picture published in Playboy (I was only reading it for the articles, honest ) in the early '80s, with a playmate straddling a burgundy P like yours. I think the plate was a California yellow on blue, but I can't be sure. I'd love to find it again, but a google image search turnout out fruitless
Molto Verboso
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Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:18 pm quote
Congratulations on getting a P2!...now that old timer will probably give you a call next week saying that he's ready to sell his.
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Location: Washington State
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:29 pm quote
I saw this one on CL and thought it looked like a reasonable deal. Unfortunately I have an agreement with the wife to sell my 82 Honda XL250r and use the proceeds to make my Vespa purchase. Waiting for tail light brackets to be delivered before I can put it up for sale. Patience, patience, patience.

Congrats on a great purchase.
Ossessionato
1979 P200e
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Location: Lock Haven, PA
Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:12 am quote
I've written it two times already this week, but that's a rider, not a trailer queen. After almost 40 years, you expect a few scuffs and whatnot.

The plastic bumper in the back most people remove anyway, it's where you balance the scoot on a milk crate when lifting it.

Your first project is the seat. Mine was worse than that, but the tape is gonna leave your pants sticky.... But it's probably only $75 worth of parts and an hour or so of time. And your ride will look sooooo slick!

Good luck. This is what the forum is for, for us to work together to help someone make their dream come true.

And way to go Voodoo!
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:19 am quote
Congratulations on the P! Post up your adventures on it when you get it.

Eric
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:10 am quote
Re: P200e - this time for real!
Awesome bike. I'd be stoked to find that!

My 2 cents:

Get the rubber for the kick start pedal (ouch!).

New tyres. I always buy new tyres regardless. Pirelli SL26 are good allrounders.

Choice one.
Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:32 am quote
Frank N. Stein wrote:
Great colorway! I've been looking for a burgundy P2 for a long time, and since those were only available in the late '70s (-early '80s maybe?), most of them have been repainted or retired since, it seems..
Thanks Frank! There is one in San Francisco: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/d/vespa-200/6614612676.html I bid $1,000 but was rejected.
Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:42 am quote
whodatschrome wrote:
Congratulations on getting a P2!...now that old timer will probably give you a call next week saying that he's ready to sell his.
Thank you! You never know! It sounds like he contacted me before consulting his wife, and we all know what kind of hurt that brings!
Winesalot wrote:
I saw this one on CL and thought it looked like a reasonable deal. Unfortunately I have an agreement with the wife to sell my 82 Honda XL250r and use the proceeds to make my Vespa purchase. Waiting for tail light brackets to be delivered before I can put it up for sale. Patience, patience, patience.

Congrats on a great purchase.
Thank you! That Xl250r would make a great Trans America Trail (TAT) bike. I'm selling an 2002 KTM Duke II supermoto and I have the same deal with my wife. But this was something I just couldn't wait on, and the Duke is almost sold. I'm really proud of how calm my wife was when I shared with her what I was in the middle of doing. Thanks again
Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
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Location: Florence, OR
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:46 am quote
Larrytsg wrote:
I've written it two times already this week, but that's a rider, not a trailer queen. After almost 40 years, you expect a few scuffs and whatnot.

The plastic bumper in the back most people remove anyway, it's where you balance the scoot on a milk crate when lifting it.

Your first project is the seat. Mine was worse than that, but the tape is gonna leave your pants sticky.... But it's probably only $75 worth of parts and an hour or so of time. And your ride will look sooooo slick!

Good luck. This is what the forum is for, for us to work together to help someone make their dream come true.

And way to go Voodoo!
Thanks Larry. I've been looking for a rider, not a display piece. I ride year round here on the Oregon Coast, so I'll be waxing her up and riding. Apparently the seat is already fixed, as well as a full tune up, and new tires! I was planning on doing all that, and probably still will, just to familiarize myself with the scoot. Bonding time. And yes, this is an AWESOME community, and huge cudos to Voodoo!
Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 1206
Location: Florence, OR
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:50 am quote
Re: P200e - this time for real!
PC73 wrote:
Awesome bike. I'd be stoked to find that!

My 2 cents:
Get the rubber for the kick start pedal (ouch!).
New tyres. I always buy new tyres regardless. Pirelli SL26 are good allrounders.
Thank you, and thanks for the advice!
Ossessionato
1964 GS 160 MK II, 1967 Vespa GT, 1968 SS180, 1964 Vespa GL, 1964 Vespa VBB, 2006 Buddy 125, 2013 BMW C650GT
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:39 pm quote
That scooter will clean up real nice. congrats!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:54 pm quote
Yep! Terry is the long-distance scooter intermediary to have on your team, did me some huge favours!

There's a special kind of heaven waiting for Voodoo...
Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 50s x2 78 P200 84 Cosa 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special + projects
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:57 pm quote
Yeah, it is a sweetie and I think I am in love! Gonna be hard to ship this one out.

A few scratches in the LH cowl I missed when inspecting in light rain.


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The motor looks & runs great, first kick starts are easy

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Clean VIN

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Low, low miles

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the only scuff on the leggy trim

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should polish up like this
even has the underseat bag hooks

Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
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Location: Florence, OR
Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:36 pm quote
Wow - looks better than I could have imagined - thanks Voodoo - very cool.

Hooked
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:33 am quote
Frank N. Stein wrote:
Great colorway! I've been looking for a burgundy P2 for a long time, and since those were only available in the late '70s (-early '80s maybe?), most of them have been repainted or retired since, it seems..

There was a beautiful picture published in Playboy (I was only reading it for the articles, honest ) in the early '80s, with a playmate straddling a burgundy P like yours. I think the plate was a California yellow on blue, but I can't be sure. I'd love to find it again, but a google image search turnout out fruitless
Pics or it didn't happen.
Ossessionato
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Location: pacifica,ca.
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:21 am quote
nice scoot, and my favorite P color
Ossessionato
1976 Super (x 2), 1974 Primavera (x 2), 2006 Fly 150
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:44 am quote


Mighty nice!
Ossessionato
1979 P200e
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:10 am quote
Looks pretty clean for a 35+ year old scooter
Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
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Location: Florence, OR
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:31 am quote
Thanks Larry, SoCalGuy and VespaAuntie. I just lined up my nephew to pick it up on Monday and bring it down. Now I'm really excited!
Hooked
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Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:52 pm quote
That's a fine looking scoot, qascooter!

Looking forward to seeing some more pics after it's been polished up
Hooked
'66 Super 150
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Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:10 pm quote
Beautiful scoot! And beautiful story of how everything came together. Three cheers for Voodoo! Enjoy your P, qascooter I do love the burgundy color.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:15 pm quote
details
Agreed, it is just too lovely and really needs to leave here tomorrow on schedule, my scoots are getting rather jealous and crabby. But before it's gone, I was out in the sunshine secretly savoring its near perfection.

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even though it's faded where the sun hit it, there's lots of shiny original paint to admire

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more gleam and looks like the fragile plastic fuel lever has been discarded

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factory labels in place, check!
this one's perfect, like new

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and a mystery decal on the right

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I've seen similar inside the frame on a '74 smallframe, supposedly the paint code
but this one is on top of the paint

Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 50s x2 78 P200 84 Cosa 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special + projects
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:22 pm quote
more

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looks like the original sealed beam
both hi & low work

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Hmmm, lever for the DOT mandated kill switch is busted off like most of them I've seen
but no problem, the key is right there in front of you

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scuffed mudguard that I mentioned

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there, fixed it for you



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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 50s x2 78 P200 84 Cosa 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special + projects
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:34 pm quote
Here's some things you could do if/when you get the itch.

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wire brush & paint your muff, looks & sounds like it'll be OK until you get the bug for more power

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clean up that oil coming out from under the head
was probably retorqued when serviced but ride around for a couple days & inspect for new leakage
retorque if necessary or even may need to lap the head

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these wheels, paint them

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disassemble, wire brush, sand, prime, sand, topcoat x 2 or 3 times, clearcoat x 2 or times

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and PLEASE clean your damn motor!!!

Molto Verboso
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1987 T5, 1996 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:23 pm quote
What a beauty. Congrats!!!

Terry, the yellow sticker, matches the VIN number...
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:30 pm quote
Bingo!




Sometimes I am so damn slow.
But now we KNOW the bike is legit!
Anybody else ever see this kind of tag before?
Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
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Location: Florence, OR
Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:56 pm quote
Oh man - Voodoo - If I was salivating before now I'm just full on drooling all over myself! The scooter looks awesome! I'm definitely going to have a good summer cleaning her up bit by bit. And running around town. It's going to be hard to paint the rims because I'm going to want to ride, ride, ride....

So needless to say but it's probably a really good thing my nephew is picking up the bike tomorrow, lest you get too attached. I'd hate for him to bring me one of your parts bikes! Ha!

Oh, and thanks for fixing the front paint scrape-age. A perfect addition.

I cannot wait to start buffing, little by little, until it shines like a well cared for 39 year old scooter. And you can guarantee I'll be leaving the VIN tag inside the front legshield. That was probably supposed to come off at the dealers when prepping the vehicle for sale. Not anymore!

Thanks again for everything, and for all the pictures - hopefully I'll be able to get some sleep tonight!!!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:24 pm quote
qascooter wrote:
...

It's going to be hard to paint the rims because I'm going to want to ride, ride, ride....

...
Yeah, this scooter wants riding for sure!

But no problem, do them one at a time starting w/ the spare. Learn as you go if you haven't done this kind of thing before and you ought to get better and better at it so you can eventually put the prettiest one on the front, second place on the back and last one for your spare.

There are many different paints and colors you could choose just trying to stay 'stock'. There's silver, aluminum and even chrome all in various flavors. I like 'aluminum' for wheels. Choose one you like and test to verify how it looks on a metal panel, including clearcoat. Some clearcoats don't like some metallics and they turn grayish. Ask me how I know(& did not test first ).
Addicted
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:18 pm quote
good job voods!
everyone needs a voo doo close to them. hope to make it back up to the PNW soon and hang with the v-.man.
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1977 P200E
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:08 am quote
P200E...
Having trouble locating the rear brake light switch (pedal). They handle one lites the brake light, but not the pedal. My guess is bad switch?

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 50s x2 78 P200 84 Cosa 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special + projects
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:18 am quote
You need to remove the brake pedal assembly from underneath. Brake lite switch is mounted inside it.

Meanwhile....
I had to say goodbye to 'my' new favorite bike today.

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1977 P200E
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:24 am quote
brake pedal removal
I tried to pull the pedal down and out , but was afraid of damaging the cable. Do I remove the spring? Any tips for a novice mechanic?
Addicted
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:12 pm quote
Re: brake pedal removal
nedshaw wrote:
I tried to pull the pedal down and out , but was afraid of damaging the cable. Do I remove the spring? Any tips for a novice mechanic?
Start a new thread with your problem.

Good luck!
Molto Verboso
08 GTS 250, 79 P200E, 62 Allstate
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
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Location: Florence, OR
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:32 pm quote
The Eagle has Landed!
Tyler, my nephew, delivered the P200 this evening from Seattle. I took it for a quick spin and it's just what I was looking for! Its going to be a great summer project. It needs shocks, lots of polishing, rim painting, keys, and whatever else I run across. Oh, and I want to refurbish the seat base (vinegar and new paint). I'm beyond happy. Thanks to Voodoo for all his effort in checking this beauty out, and graciously playing broker and picking up the scooter from the seller. And thanks to my nephew Tyler for getting it here.

I'll be posting more on this thread while I get this baby cleaned up! Wooohooo!

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Can you tell I'm happy? :-)

Molto Verboso
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Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:42 pm quote
Special Delivery!

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Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:46 am quote

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:10 am quote
So, did it fire right up? And yeah, you look fairly pleased!
Hooked
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Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 am quote
Wonderful! ... when I get the funds im keeping my eye out for a P200E. I contemplated on one when I was looking for my 2nd Vespa but I got a 2005 PX150 which I love as well very much.

Next up a P200E, I'll slowly build a collection, Love the colour btw, its that and the baby blue I love.
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