Best shifty for sidecar
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Addicted
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Fri May 01, 2020 4:21 pm quote
I was watching a TV show about dogs that ride in sidecars. My wife suggested that I get a sidecar for my Vespa.
I won’t put a sidecar on my T5, but if I was to go that route with another model, which one would be best?
PX150?
Maybe I can figure out a way to buy another Vespa and my wife wouldn’t be mad at me!
Hooked
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Fri May 01, 2020 4:36 pm quote
If I were you I would go for a px 200. You will need the extra torque of that engine for pulling the side car.
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Fri May 01, 2020 4:50 pm quote
jocco wrote:
If I were you I would go for a px 200. You will need the extra torque of that engine for pulling the side car.
x2!
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Fri May 01, 2020 5:46 pm quote
Only problem is ruining a great bike 😁. Use an LML or other Indian or Chinese made bike.
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Fri May 01, 2020 6:05 pm quote
P200 with a California sidecar.
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Fri May 01, 2020 6:05 pm quote
I’ve got a line on this one, if I could get the price right, 9000 miles on it.

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Molto Verboso
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Fri May 01, 2020 9:58 pm quote
Vpfalcon - I'll avoid a dissertation on this - but here are a few highlights.
PX 150 is a great choice - as it has a disc brake already. That's half the battle. Grab it!

A few things to consider that would make it a bit better.
- 20 tooth clutch. I like the BGM superstrong - gives you both strength and lower gearing in combo. As long as top speed isn't critical - this is the cheapest means to prep it for a sidecar.
- The ability to adjust your toe in and lean out. You will want a touch of toe in from the side car wheel - and a few degrees of bike lean away from the side car - so that it pulls and pushes less. The Cali side car is a nice looking one - and light! - but its set up is a little rudimentary. a degree or two of lean out and toe in have an enormous effect on pull and tracking. You would be surprised how much that effects joy of ride. You might consider the Cozy sidecar for its ability to adjust - or if you are handy - you can make it happen with the Cali sidecar also.
- A 177 cylinder would be a nice upgrade - not essential - but no one is ever unhappy with more HP... with or without a sidecar.
- Box exhaust of course is also a nice upgrade - and it bolts on.
- A steering damper will improve the driving experience as well.

Those are all fairly straight forward. The strong clutch with smaller gears will make a huge difference. That and the ability to adjust your toe in and lean out are the only must haves in my view.

Sidecar with a dog will bring a ton of joy. Everyone will want to talk to you. Trust me - prepare yourself.
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Mon May 04, 2020 12:23 pm quote
P200 with an upgraded top end.

Or a Bajaj Chetak 150 - not much speed but lots of torque.

But if you want to use for touring and need some speed, I'd honestly just get an actual motorcycle, which will give you better performance all around. Urals are nice options.

Check out the movie "Sit Stay Ride," a great documentary about sidecar dogs!
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