Fuoco/GP800 story
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Location: Netherlands Olst
Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:52 am quote
Here i will post the build story of the mp3/Fuoco 500 with 1000cc

Going to buy a Secondhand Gilera GP800 use the back-end of it
Refurbishing the engine and fit 2 492cc Cylinders and pistons

Ordered the Following parts

A new Frame (i can cut, i need the neck to fit to the GP800 frame)
front swingarms
Wheel hubs
front Legs from the Fuoco RL
13" front Wheels (Will fit 120/70/13 tyres or if i can find them 100 110/90/13)
2 New nising 4 piston front caliper (CBR600rr)
NG Wave brakedisk
bearings

Other stuff i've got plenty in stock

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Going to try to build it

Wil be continuted

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:13 am quote
Ooo - fun!
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Mp3 500
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Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:54 am quote
Following with great intent been wanting to do this for long time now!!
Hooked
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Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:00 pm quote
That sounds like fun! Good luck with the build.
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MP3 250LiTe
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Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:08 pm quote
You're insane! I love it!
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2008 MP3 400
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Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:16 pm quote
Going to be a bad ass ride! Piaggio needs to produce a 650 or 750cc twin parallel. Even a 500 isn't really enough to push this much weight around.
Hooked
Fuoco 500ie - 2007, Benelli Adiva 150 - 2003
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:50 am quote
Great stuff, although the mash up I'd really like to see is a Fuoco front end on the engine and rear end of a Yamaha t-max

That lovely inboard twin with great sound coupled with the two wheel front end.
Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:09 pm quote
won't be legal you can do it with a tricity and Tmax both Yamaha
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2019 MP3 500 HPE Business
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:03 pm quote
MarshalDan wrote:
You're insane! I love it!
+ 1000
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2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:07 pm quote
desq wrote:
Great stuff, although the mash up I'd really like to see is a Fuoco front end on the engine and rear end of a Yamaha t-max

That lovely inboard twin with great sound coupled with the two wheel front end.
So you want the same size motor that is already on the MP3 as apposed to an 800cc that has been bumped up to a 1000cc? I don't understand that.
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:56 pm quote
no a GP800 is a 830cc 2 cylinder that i will bumb to 986cc

We all ready done that there are 4 build now

Last edited by Maksor on Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:00 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:57 pm quote
Maksor wrote:
no a GP800 is a 830cc 2 cylinder that i will bumb to 986cc
He's replying to desq who said he wanted the back on of a t-max, which is only 500 ccs.
Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:02 pm quote
the T-max 530 is a 2 cylinder with enough power but maybe there will fit other cylinder to it also never looked in to it
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:04 am quote
Adjusting the cylinders

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Puch SRA150, MP3 400, Moto Guzzi 750 Nevada, BMW K75S
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Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:29 pm quote
Maksor...
I wouldn't mind doing the 492 conversion to my Mana.

Can you give details of what is involved as you go along?

What do the cylinders come off?

What work needs to be done to the heads?

What injector body are they using - the same?

Thanks

Trevor
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2019 MP3 500hpe Sport
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Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:12 pm quote
this size motor is something the MP3 really needed to begin with. Should be an interesting build. Post pictures and keep it up to date.
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:23 am quote
the are of the mp3 but need some adjustments

Left one stock 492cc middle adjusted 492cc right oem 430cc
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Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:59 pm quote
Have you compared the weight of the two different piston, ring, gudgeon pin assemblies?
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:22 am quote
nope not the weight

the 430cc cylinder is a lot heavier then the 492
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Thu May 21, 2020 11:00 am quote
Finaly bought a wrecked gp800 in french

Now waiting on the shipping company to bring it over

allready have a parted out 125 hybride for the front-end

Used my newly bought Fuoco frame for my Fuoco 500 HPE project that will be a brandnew Gilera Fuoco with 44bhp and maybe a reverse

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Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Location: Netherlands Olst
Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:26 pm quote
finaly it got delivered

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Fuoco 500
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Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:02 am quote
Very great plan!
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Gilera Runner 500cc.
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Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:01 am quote
Nice, lets get this started fellow Dutchman!
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Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:31 pm quote
awesome project. very jealous
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