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Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:11 am quote
What a wonderfully European word; "panniers".
We call 'em 'saddlebags' here in the 'States.



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Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:49 am quote
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How uncanny that I'm talking to a dealership that sells both Kymco and Royal Enfield that's just outside Boston.

How did that happen ?

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Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:06 pm quote
Bill Dog wrote:
How uncanny that I'm talking to a dealership that sells both Kymco and Royal Enfield that's just outside Boston.

How did that happen ?

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Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:25 pm quote
Re: Short List
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It has to be a brand that has a certain amount of novelty so all of the Japanese and German makes are out.
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Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:31 pm quote
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GoSlash27 wrote:
What a wonderfully European word; "panniers".
We call 'em 'saddlebags' here in the 'States.

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n lets not get into fanny packs .......... fnrrrfnnnr
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Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:55 am quote
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What a wonderfully European word; "panniers". We call 'em 'saddlebags' here in the 'States.
French word for basket (technically for "bread basket"). I suppose the term for a basket on a bicycle sort of migrated to bags on a motorcycle.
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Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:04 am quote
Re: but what
T5bitza69 wrote:
GoSlash27 wrote:
What a wonderfully European word; "panniers".
We call 'em 'saddlebags' here in the 'States.

Best,
-Slashy
n lets not get into fanny packs .......... fnrrrfnnnr
What do you call it if you wear it out front?
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Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:10 am quote
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I've always liked the word satchel.

Well I did until Woody Allen got hold of it.

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Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:21 am quote
Suggestion
These guys have been really helpful on the Kymco and Royal Enfield front.

https://marksmotorsports.biz

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Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:27 am quote
Re: Suggestion
Bill Dog wrote:
These guys have been really helpful on the Kymco and Royal Enfield front.

https://marksmotorsports.biz

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That's the dealer I linked to a couple pages back. The Himalayan model.
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Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:06 am quote
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They have been incredibly helpful and patient with me.

Easily the best so far.

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Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:57 am quote
Re: Suggestion
Bill Dog wrote:
These guys have been really helpful on the Kymco and Royal Enfield front.

https://marksmotorsports.biz st
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: and if you flew into Bradley International you would be about 15 min. away fro Marks and about 20 min. away from the nearest IHop
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Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:54 pm quote
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Well that's that decided then.

Sorted.

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:55 am quote
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This plan to ride coast to coast is looking good for 2019.

I'll probably start another thread about it though.

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:03 pm quote
You might want to check these guys out while you are at it (if you haven't tried already).

Royal Enfield of Albany, New York
99 Cordell Road
Schenectady, New York 12304
Phone: (518) 708-6700

http://www.royalenfieldalbanyny.com/

Good luck with your plans.
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:08 pm quote
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I've been chatting with these guys for the past couple of months.

https://marksmotorsports.biz/

Oddly enough they are in Enfield near Boston.

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:47 pm quote
I've done about 1500 miles on the Enfield Classic I got back in Aug. I use it for commuting most days when it's not raining and have found it pretty decent. I thought the matt paint would be a PITA to keep clean but I've only cleaned it once since Aug and it still looks pretty. I started off checking all the bolts, the battery each week figuring it would probably fall apart or die if I didn't - after two weeks I stopped doing that and now I just put petrol in it and check the oil level every now and then. I still look forward to every ride on it, even the commutes through central London. I only use the kick start as it makes me feel like Marlon Brando in the morning which is a nice way to start the day. If you do get a Classic 500 then you'll need (soft) panniers to hold stuff. You'll also need to accept that 50mph will be your cruising speed. It might go faster but it won't like it. That also means you'd need to think about your route - fast interstates might be a little worrisome if you're slower than everything else.
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:57 pm quote
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I test rode a few months ago so I know it's limitations and this is why I thought about a slower ride through the centre of the country on quieter roads.

Speed isn't a factor this time.

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:59 pm quote
Bill, you may already know this, give a look to the "U.S. Highways".
Routes 2, 6, 20, 40, are ones that come to mind, there are probably others... These, of course, are the older pre-interstate highways.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:00 am quote
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Thank you.

I'll give that a gander later today.

My only real restriction is that I have to use Denver as my halfway point.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:49 am quote
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I've done about 1500 miles on the Enfield Classic I got back in Aug. I use it for commuting most days when it's not raining and have found it pretty decent. I thought the matt paint would be a PITA to keep clean but I've only cleaned it once since Aug and it still looks pretty. I started off checking all the bolts, the battery each week figuring it would probably fall apart or die if I didn't - after two weeks I stopped doing that and now I just put petrol in it and check the oil level every now and then. I still look forward to every ride on it, even the commutes through central London. I only use the kick start as it makes me feel like Marlon Brando in the morning which is a nice way to start the day. If you do get a Classic 500 then you'll need (soft) panniers to hold stuff. You'll also need to accept that 50mph will be your cruising speed. It might go faster but it won't like it. That also means you'd need to think about your route - fast interstates might be a little worrisome if you're slower than everything else.
Robin, you'll find if you push the limits a little with your Enfield eg: ride it a little harder now and again, and get plenty of miles on it, it just won't vibrate much at all. I've ridden several classics and none of them vibrated once they got past 3-4k miles. Cruising at 65mph was a smooth and tireless affair. Your engine is still just a youngster so be prepared for it to just keep improving.

On another note which I know will please you. There are no valve clearances to check on your Enfield. They are hydraulic...Yippee!
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:51 am quote
Bill, I'm liking your plans!
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:00 am quote
Anyone heard from Capt. Gary and how he's liking his RE Himalayan?
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:06 am quote
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I've heard that if you give those single Enfield's some beans in their early days the vibrations go away.

I talked to Capt Gary a few weeks ago and he's really happy with his Himalayan.

A really good choice after they resolved the problems on the early models.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:13 am quote
Vintage1 wrote:
Bill, you may already know this, give a look to the "U.S. Highways".
Routes 2, 6, 20, 40, are ones that come to mind, there are probably others... These, of course, are the older pre-interstate highways.
These old coast-to-coast highway routes are a good place to start, but all of them now have multiple sections where you are really on an Interstate. You have to suck that up, or do some additional route planning on state highways or local roads to avoid Interstate sections.

Another interesting one is US 30 - Atlantic City, NJ to Astoria, OR.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:33 am quote
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Robin, you'll find if you push the limits a little with your Enfield eg: ride it a little harder now and again, and get plenty of miles on it, it just won't vibrate much at all. I've ridden several classics and none of them vibrated once they got past 3-4k miles. Cruising at 65mph was a smooth and tireless affair. Your engine is still just a youngster so be prepared for it to just keep improving.
Thanks for the info! I tend to use it for city commuting so I rarely get the chance to go above 40mph. Perhaps I should tell the wife I need to go on more long weekend rides if only for the sake of the bike? Does this mean after 4k miles I'll be able to see what's in the mirrors?
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:40 am quote
In looking at a self-tour in Colombia recently, I noticed that the main motorcycle tour company there has one tour/route which requires use of a n Enfield 500 Classic. Motolombia has a good reputation and been in business awhile so seems the bikes a machine they have faith in?
I've never riden one but see them now and then at a local Kawasaki multi-line PTW dealer where they've sold them as long as the brands been in the USA.
Rider magazine tested the brand recently too and liked them as a standard bike for a change from the rest of the market. Brakes, as I recall were not real robust?
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:07 am quote
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I wouldn't call them not robust, more like a gesture.

I rode one with drum brakes recently......never again.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:55 pm quote
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Brakes, as I recall were not real robust?
Yeh, the old models with drum brakes aren't exactly inspiring. The new models have disk brakes all round plus ABS. They actually work quite well.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:58 pm quote
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I don't agree.

Compared to the Kymcos brakes they are pretty scary even with ABS.

Even the Himalayan's front end has been described as being vague.

I guess you just have to adjust your perspective ?

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:01 pm quote
Greater pucker factor!
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:03 pm quote
robinm wrote:
Kantuckid wrote:
Brakes, as I recall were not real robust?
Yeh, the old models with drum brakes aren't exactly inspiring. The new models have disk brakes all round plus ABS. They actually work quite well.
I was relating to what I'd read (as I recall) in a very recent Rider road test not an old model.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:05 pm quote
Crazy idea, but last year's Cannoball was nearly non-stop utterly brilliant routing and it's all loaded up in GPS files....
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:01 pm quote
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Crazy idea, but last year's Cannoball was nearly non-stop utterly brilliant routing and it's all loaded up in GPS files....
Now that is an interesting idea. Wasn't there a significant amount of unpaved/gravel road in the Western part of the route? Now, with a Himalayan I suppose that might be just fine.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:41 pm quote
I ride quite a few bikes but I don't consider the Enfield bad at braking. In all honesty I don't think about the bike's braking at all. Maybe if you compare them to a twin disk set up on sports rubber then it would look a bit pedestrian. But on a 1950's style Royal Enfield, I think they're fine. Maybe it just depends on how you ride and what you're used to.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:06 pm quote
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tdrake wrote:
Crazy idea, but last year's Cannoball was nearly non-stop utterly brilliant routing and it's all loaded up in GPS files....
Now that is an interesting idea. Wasn't there a significant amount of unpaved/gravel road in the Western part of the route? Now, with a Himalayan I suppose that might be just fine.
My PTSD counsellor told me not to discuss the so called "significant amount of unpaved/gravel road in the Western part of the route."

But those areas could be -- and often were, by those either wiser or luckier than I -- easily avoided and circumvented.

And a feller wouldn't have to ride the whole route -- just lots of good fodder to pillage along the way.

Oh, and hrrmmm...I seem to be writing about Bill's "2019 Coast to Coast" in this thread and Royal Enfields in that one.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:47 pm quote
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I really don't mind if you do.

I'm not setting any parameters so say what you like.

I'm sorry to say it but brakes, especially the fronts on Royal Enfields aren't great.

Read any review of them in print or You Tube and it always gets mentioned.

Sorry.

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Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:14 am quote
Do you think it's because these journo's are so used to just using the front brake? the weight on these bikes feels pretty evenly split between front and rear so, if you don't use both brakes, you're only using half the braking available. Anyway, I'll shut up about the braking now
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:31 am quote
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No, lets enjoy it.

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Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:16 am quote
robinm wrote:
Stromrider wrote:
Robin, you'll find if you push the limits a little with your Enfield eg: ride it a little harder now and again, and get plenty of miles on it, it just won't vibrate much at all. I've ridden several classics and none of them vibrated once they got past 3-4k miles. Cruising at 65mph was a smooth and tireless affair. Your engine is still just a youngster so be prepared for it to just keep improving.
Thanks for the info! I tend to use it for city commuting so I rarely get the chance to go above 40mph. Perhaps I should tell the wife I need to go on more long weekend rides if only for the sake of the bike? Does this mean after 4k miles I'll be able to see what's in the mirrors?
That explains why your bike is still vibrating so much Robin. It needs to get nice and hot and have a nice prolonged load at higher engine speeds put on it. Give it some real work in other words. You don't have to ride it flat out but a few good higher speed rides can make a difference. It will take some time but the bike will thank you for it and it will stop vibrating so much. And yes, the mirrors actually become useful when you have a few thousand miles on the clock. Enjoy!
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