Scooter Cannonball 2018 YouTube video by gopam
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Molto Verboso
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Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:06 pm quote
Hey my MV peeps!

Edit to update: I've started editing the Day by Day videos....DAY 1 video is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw08XJ36ekI&feature=youtu.be



DAY 2 part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMZ5l-u4kIc&t=559s


DAY 2 part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxwARUSPgqg&feature=youtu.be


DAY 3 part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3-pWBRk84E&feature=youtu.be

DAY 3 part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kISa5TSbing&feature=youtu.be

DAY 3 part 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKc3bW2cBY8&feature=youtu.be

DAY 3 part 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M0sVCBcjCY&feature=youtu.be


DAY 4 part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGMhQTo-thw&feature=youtu.be




Here's a link to the first Cannonball movie I've put together. The footage and audio is rough, like the rough and road weary rider gopam.....that put it together. For those that we're following Scooter Cannonball 2018, there was a lot of radio silence on the forums. That's because we were sooo tired and had very little time to do much of anything except sleep and prepare to ride each day. At least that was the case for me haha. So hopefully you'll enjoy this video of some of the madness and hilarity that occurred.
I have TONS of footage and trying to make sense of it is like trying to do math on Cannonball with sleep deprivationvery hard haha. So I put this together just to get something for the cannonballers and you all to view. I do hope to edit and post more videos when I have the time. Most likely a Day 1 video, a Day 2 video etc.

Shout out to Vespa Sherman Oaks who prepped my GT200 which made it to the finishing line!! I couldn't have done it without you. Also, I couldn't have done it without the help of fellow cannonballers, our support truck drivers and our fantastic organizers. Much love and respect! And with the support of my lovely wife, Sarah. It was the experience of a life time. And this crazy lady is already thinking about 2020.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUSYKHHAuLE

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Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:10 pm quote
Excited to see you've posted this. Looks like I won't be going to bed for at least another 26 minutes.
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Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:37 pm quote
Spike
Loved it loved it loved it.

Brilliant work gopam.

I'm so proud of you.

Bill x
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:59 am quote
Love it! And yes a wet crotch is always better than a muddy crotch, especially on a wet mountain dirt road.
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:06 am quote
Very impressive footage, great commentary, excellent work!

I feel sorry for the person which looks like ended up with broken ankle and this brings very recent memory from my last week trip to Gaspe Peninsula in Quebec. Last Thursday morning when walking on wet grass I fell and landed on my left feet. At the time I thought I just twisted my ankle and decided to ride my bike home. It took me two days to get back to Toronto, total distance about 1,100 km. Got home last Friday evening and on Saturday morning went to hospital where I was diagnosed with broken ankle. I have to go back to hospital in one week and doctors will decide then if surgery needs to be done to repair the damage.

Thank you gopam for posting this video, it was real pleasure watching it.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:04 am quote
Ha, great vid!

The problem with 90% of ride vids is that they are a bit boring - this ain't

I love the scenes where you sing while riding, I can see, and almost feel the rythm you steer the scoot with.

If I were to advertise scoot canonball, this would provide perfect material
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:36 am quote
RRider wrote:
Ha, great vid!

The problem with 90% of ride vids is that they are a bit boring - this ain't

I love the scenes where you sing while riding, I can see, and almost feel the rythm you steer the scoot with.

If I were to advertise scoot canonball, this would provide perfect material
Oh yeah - and I love the fact that your commentary becames grazier while the journey progresses - even without the antibiotics, this is propably who you'd feel with all that lack of sleep an physical torture...sorry, exercise.
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:52 am quote
Great video! The gut wrenching laughter in the support is partially shown in the video. GoPam and Cynthia in the truck, both times, was the highlight of the trip for me. Or was it Bill and his ugly leg.
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:56 am quote
"Put your body into it baby!" - best quote ever on how to open a door!

What a fun video, nice job GoPam!

You can feel the camaraderie among the riders! Love your singing and commentary while riding. Well done!
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:06 pm quote
lostboater wrote:
Great video! The gut wrenching laughter in the support is partially shown in the video. GoPam and Cynthia in the truck, both times, was the highlight of the trip for me. Or was it Bill and his ugly leg.
My highlight, except for the only two good segments of riding I got in, was riding with you, Pam and Cynthia in the support truck.

Those two were having a blast on a long ride across the country. Seeing them having so much fun was an inspiration for me and my bum leg.

Bill
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:30 pm quote
Started to watch it and got PTSD. Gonna have to wait til I've either had a few beers or, to relive the experience, I'll get up at 4:30 and watch it while skipping breakfast.
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:08 pm quote
tdrake wrote:
Started to watch it and got PTSD. Gonna have to wait til I've either had a few beers or, to relive the experience, I'll get up at 4:30 and watch it while skipping breakfast.
Does that mean you aren't planning on 2020?
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:20 pm quote
Awesome
That looked like fun. Im curious about the scoots. What was the smallest scoot? I take it you avoided the interstate?
Molto Verboso
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:02 pm quote
I enjoyed watching that this morning while sipping my coffee and eating pop tarts. If I had planned better, I would have had waffles!
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:02 pm quote
Pam,

Thanks so much of sharing the video. I'm trying to get myself psyched to go for my rookie run in 2020.

Kim
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:35 pm quote
Re: Awesome
clynch wrote:
That looked like fun. Im curious about the scoots. What was the smallest scoot? I take it you avoided the interstate?
http://scootercannonballrun.com for this year's cannonball. Previous years archived site (no longer capable of being logged into) http://scootercannonball.com there are lists of all scooters that participated each year on one site or the others,
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:19 pm quote
Re: Spike
Bill Dog wrote:
Loved it loved it loved it.

Brilliant work gopam.

I'm so proud of you.

Bill x
Thanks Bill - I thought of you often during cannonball. & thanks Sticky. & Thanks everyone I知 so glad people are liking it. I知 inspired to make more movies of my captured cannonball footage when I get some time to do so.
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Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:35 pm quote
I couldn't listen to all of it tonite. Where's all the F-bombs?
Molto Verboso
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Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:22 am quote
Re: Awesome
cdwise wrote:
clynch wrote:
That looked like fun. Im curious about the scoots. What was the smallest scoot? I take it you avoided the interstate?
http://scootercannonballrun.com for this year's cannonball. Previous years archived site (no longer capable of being logged into) http://scootercannonball.com there are lists of all scooters that participated each year on one site or the others,
...I also thought I saw a white 50cc Honda Zoomer/Ruckus in the vid, but that must have been something else - or then a very lonely ride behind everyone else....
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Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:07 am quote
tdrake wrote:
Started to watch it and got PTSD. Gonna have to wait til I've either had a few beers or, to relive the experience, I'll get up at 4:30 and watch it while skipping breakfast.
This brings to my mind - following the canonball experience, from a safe distance, it kind of helped me to focus on which kind of 2-wheel - supported traveling to plan next.

Another inspiration was my many bicycling friends. If you'll look at the route even the most maniac cyclist have chosen, it'll typically prove to be a nice, scenic and relaxed ride with a motorcycle

Then, during a hot summer evening (last summer's special rarity around here), sipping a nice cooled glass of Alsace wine at the patio, it hit me - what would really be my kind of a rally. Naturally, the classic Alsace wine tour rail....very popular among cyclists due to conveniently short distance between nice stops, very scenic route and actually, the main route has even been used a rally route, so it's not boring! There seem to be places from where to rent cheapi(ish) small scoots, or one even offered REs.....lazy, short day rides in the nice scerery, plenty of places to stop and smell roses, plenty of wine yards to explore and guaranteed late mornings....

...sorry, I kind of drifted from the topic
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Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:17 am quote
Re: Awesome
RRider wrote:
cdwise wrote:
clynch wrote:
That looked like fun. Im curious about the scoots. What was the smallest scoot? I take it you avoided the interstate?
http://scootercannonballrun.com for this year's cannonball. Previous years archived site (no longer capable of being logged into) http://scootercannonball.com there are lists of all scooters that participated each year on one site or the others,
...I also thought I saw a white 50cc Honda Zoomer/Ruckus in the vid, but that must have been something else - or then a very lonely ride behind everyone else....
There was a Honda Ruckus with a cloned and kitted 178cc engine in it that started in California and gave up the ghost riding home in the back of a rental truck that you saw around 3:45 in the video. In 2012 Of ride a 50cc Ruckus along with someone else who rode a Yamaha C3. In 2014 an Aprilia 50 started but didnt finish the first day.

I think this year DeBinChe's Honda 110 was the smallest engine.
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Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:29 am quote
cdwise wrote:
tdrake wrote:
Started to watch it and got PTSD. Gonna have to wait til I've either had a few beers or, to relive the experience, I'll get up at 4:30 and watch it while skipping breakfast.
Does that mean you aren't planning on 2020?
Hmmmm....

Hmmmm....

Swear that until Pam put up that vid y'day my answer was a fairly solid "naw", but, well, hmmmmm....

I think what I'd like best, tho, would be a distillation of the "better" parts (better for me, that is) without the "competitive" parts, which were never gonna be my thing: fewer miles through equally beautiful places with a small group of friends, with more time to get to know those places and friends...not to mention time for fricken breakfast and/or lunch!

Also, how do you top the fricken Cannonball???

Well, for me the only way would be a tour like that overseas.

But lordy -- what an experience! Seriously.

So, so much gratitude to the folks who put it together and organized such amazing routes.

Uh, aside from the dirt, that is. F---------------k the dirt! That's where the F-bombs were!
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Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:10 am quote
Simply epic Pam. Mostly terrifying for me (afraid of heights) but epic.

Proud to call you a friend for all these years, super proud of your courage and durability.

Best,
SDG
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Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:23 am quote
kimbered wrote:
Pam,

Thanks so much of sharing the video. I'm trying to get myself psyched to go for my rookie run in 2020.

Kim
I ain't gonna lie. I definitely had fear leading up to cannonball. Mainly running out of gas and getting lost in the middle of nowhere way off route. So I decided to carry a 2 1/2 gallon can of gas and 2 MSR bottles. My fear was of the unknown....what might happen...and I challenged that fear and it was the best decision to do cannonball.
I also suggest know your limits (riding skills & health that Day's ride) and your scooter's limits. and take a detour like I & some did if the terrain was TOO crazy. It's major sleep deprivation and hard too. But maniac laughter fun.
If you think you want to do it....go for it !!!!
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Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:26 am quote
Syd wrote:
I couldn't listen to all of it tonite. Where's all the F-bombs?
TDrake
Uh, aside from the dirt, that is. F---------------k the dirt! That's where the F-bombs were!

Haha. I'm a person who likes to swear. Watching myself back on video I was like "Damn!!!!!! Potty mouth!!!" And when I'm fatigued I swear even more! So yes, I bleeped all my expletives to keep the movie available to the masses on YouTube. PG13 at least 😝
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Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:30 am quote
SDG wrote:
Simply epic Pam. Mostly terrifying for me (afraid of heights) but epic.

Proud to call you a friend for all these years, super proud of your courage and durability.

Best,
SDG
Aw David thanks! You're the best and I'm grateful and proud to call you a friend too.
Everyone, SDG here at Vespa Sherman Oaks takes care of his customers!! Before cannonball I trusted this shop with my life (maintenance on my Scoot) and the cannonball prep was above and beyond. And I enjoyed buying a motorcycle from him too. Head to VESPASO it's always a good time there 😃
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Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:44 am quote
stickyfrog wrote:
Love it! And yes a wet crotch is always better than a muddy crotch, especially on a wet mountain dirt road.
Oh and Sticky, I miss laughing with you and Billdog too. Fun fact, scooterista who I met on cannonball....I attended her wedding at Amerivespa New Orleans! We realized that one morning when we had continental breakfast with Binh and she started talking about her wedding. And Binh was at her wedding too. So it turns out I met /saw many amazing people in New Orleans 😃
Miss you guys
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Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:36 pm quote
Good job, gopam!
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Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:35 am quote
ryjan wrote:
Very impressive footage, great commentary, excellent work!

I feel sorry for the person which looks like ended up with broken ankle and this brings very recent memory from my last week trip to Gaspe Peninsula in Quebec. Last Thursday morning when walking on wet grass I fell and landed on my left feet. At the time I thought I just twisted my ankle and decided to ride my bike home. It took me two days to get back to Toronto, total distance about 1,100 km. Got home last Friday evening and on Saturday morning went to hospital where I was diagnosed with broken ankle. I have to go back to hospital in one week and doctors will decide then if surgery needs to be done to repair the damage.

Thank you gopam for posting this video, it was real pleasure watching it.
You are lucky it is broken, a severe sprain takes longer to heel.
Took over year for my ankle to be back close to normal and months of PT

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Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:43 pm quote
Enjoyed the video!
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:19 pm quote
Hey my MV peeps!

Edit to update: I've started editing the Day by Day videos....DAY 1 video is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw08XJ36ekI&feature=youtu.be
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:12 am quote
Nice!

Seeing those roads again I'm instantly reminded of how ridiculously nervous/amped/stoked I was on that first morning...and, well, most every morning! But I honestly haven't felt that kid of excitement for quite literally decades.

And, speaking of decades, also how cool it was to revisit a part of CA I knew well as a kid but hadn't seen in 45 years....

And also how, uhm, aside from the sound of wind the inside of my helmet was 100% silent for 12-14 hours a day, unlike, uh, some people's. Not that the chatter inside my head was any quieter, tho, I suppose.

Looking forward to the rest of these!
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:17 am quote
Just watched Day 1. Thank you Pam for the time and effort in doing this! Great work!
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:20 pm quote
tdrake wrote:
Nice!

Seeing those roads again I'm instantly reminded of how ridiculously nervous/amped/stoked I was on that first morning...and, well, most every morning! But I honestly haven't felt that kid of excitement for quite literally decades.
I totally felt the same nervous/amped/stoked as you!
Although I think I got SUPER amped haha. I like to think of myself as fun crazy (not just crazy). So much fun
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:20 pm quote
tdrake wrote:
And also how, uhm, aside from the sound of wind the inside of my helmet was 100% silent for 12-14 hours a day, unlike, uh, some people's. Not that the chatter inside my head was any quieter, tho, I suppose.

Looking forward to the rest of these!
Haha the only time I知 quiet is when I知 eating and sleeping.

Although I had planned to narrate while I filmed for these videos. But yes, I知 a bit of a jabber spaz haha.
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:56 pm quote
Here's Day 2 part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMZ5l-u4kIc&feature=youtu.be
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Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:57 am quote
love the videos and commentary.
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Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:22 am quote
Another great video from GoPam Studios.

Unfortunately, the video does not capture how difficult that road was with lots of ruts, gravel, deep sand, and just down right pain in the ass sections, which was most of it. I congratulate all of those that made through. Many gave up and turned back or did not even give it a try.
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Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:11 pm quote
old as dirt wrote:
love the videos and commentary.
lostboater wrote:
Another great video from GoPam Studios.

Unfortunately, the video does not capture how difficult that road was with lots of ruts, gravel, deep sand, and just down right pain in the ass sections, which was most of it. I congratulate all of those that made through. Many gave up and turned back or did not even give it a try.
Aw thanks guys!!

Hey Lostboater - here's the link for Day 2 - Part 2. This video features you. Thanks for having my back!!

and I think it shows the dirt difficulty a little better than Day 2 part 1. Behold the dirt hill.........



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxwARUSPgqg&feature=youtu.be
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Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:37 pm quote
gopam wrote:
tdrake wrote:
And also how, uhm, aside from the sound of wind the inside of my helmet was 100% silent for 12-14 hours a day, unlike, uh, some people's. Not that the chatter inside my head was any quieter, tho, I suppose.

Looking forward to the rest of these!
Haha the only time I知 quiet is when I知 eating and sleeping.

Although I had planned to narrate while I filmed for these videos. But yes, I知 a bit of a jabber spaz haha.
My father was from the midwest so I learned how to keep that jabber spaz inside but, trust me, while it may be silent inside my helmet, it's just as loud inside my head.
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