malossi fly clutch 2009 MP3 500
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Hooked
2010 gts 300 super super. 09 MP3 500 super duper
Joined: 02 Apr 2013
Posts: 263
Location: tampa
Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:20 am quote
I really could not find the info I wanted to find when I was searching for info on clutches. while a few recommend the dr.pulley hit with fervor i found other feedback of users that were sill having chatter issues with the hit clutch. I also cant wrap my head around the clutch making any difference past 5000 rpm. I would think no clutch could slip above that rpm. and there was certainly no signs of heat on my stock clutch bell with 19,000km on it. More than anything I wanted to eliminate the final annoyance the bike had and that was belt chatter. which I beleive happens as the clutch skips on the bell during half clutch operation. this results in the belt chattering.

So opted for the fly clutch and the white contra spring. purchased from scooterpartsco

so I am happy to report this setup is nothing short of awesome. here is what I experience.

the transmission is overall more quiet and smooth. less vibrations.

low speed chatter gone. wiped off the map.

clutch engages and disengages much quicker than stock shoes. this makes the bike drive with far more precision. where it is most noticable is coasting up to traffic light and the clutch drops out of engagement. with the stock clutch it is absolute pain to re-engage the clutch to get a little more coast speed. with the malossi its a complete joy. it locks back in quickly and smoothly.

low speed putting around is much improved for the same reason. the clutch locks in at slightly higher rpm but it does it quickly and smoothly so it is easier to make slow speed maneuvers.

after a couple of hours with clutch I couldnt get over how much more enjoyable driving on this clutch is. piaggio should get with malossi and sell the bike stock with this setup.

no negatives that I can think of. fabulous addition to your 500.

Hooked
Piaggio MP3 250, BigBeo
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 111
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:40 am quote
Mine experience with Malossi clutch.

It was installed to my Bigbeo by someone before me (total mileage was 20000 miles/32000 km). This happened: the clutch shoes lost friction pads and melted, thus welded to clutch bell. So the engine started on centerstand, but no chance to start the bike when you're on it with rear wheel on the road.

Luckily a friend was with me, who kicked me to help the engine roll on start. This was a really bad experience: 300 km in the darkest night, at +14 Celsius, on a Beo which won't start if you stop it to refuel or to water bushes on the roadside.

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MP3 500 LT " Matilda"
Joined: 21 Dec 2018
Posts: 61
Location: west Germany
Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:13 pm quote
That's scary dude!
Hooked
Piaggio MP3 250, BigBeo
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 111
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:28 am quote
Yep. But we had good luck and returned safely... Besides working on clutch, I found that someone had variator weights installed a wrong way (and causing wear of variator pulley). So I replaced the front pulley too.
Hooked
Joined: 27 Oct 2016
Posts: 185
Location: England
Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:00 am quote
This clutch has been an absolute joy and has transformed the bike.
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2006 LX150 (carbed) | 2007 GT200
Joined: 29 Jun 2016
Posts: 559
Location: Toronto
Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:42 am quote
That's crazy (both what happened to your clutch, and your decision to ride it that way! ). Happy to hear you made it home alright! I hope you get the bike fixed soon.
Hooked
Piaggio MP3 250, BigBeo
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 111
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:49 am quote
Thanks! Yep, I've fixed it already, now all I gotta do is flush brakes after rebuilding (cleaning, mostly) brake calipers. That should lead to modifying integrated brake system, which uses same brake proportion valve as on other Aprilias and Piaggios, but BigBeo does not have a banjo bolt with bleed valve on it, as others, and its brake proportion valve is installed in another way.

I must say I love Scarabeo, but Piaggio's engineers make scooters better than Aprilia's. It has several design faults, but that's not a topic to discuss them...
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mp3 500 2017
Joined: 30 Dec 2011
Posts: 52
Location: singapore
Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:17 pm quote
Hi,wat does the new white spring helps with?
Hooked
2010 gts 300 super super. 09 MP3 500 super duper
Joined: 02 Apr 2013
Posts: 263
Location: tampa
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:58 am quote
echris108 wrote:
Hi,wat does the new white spring helps with?
the white spring is called a "contra" spring. the spring applies pressure to the rear pulley halves. the pulley halves have to spread apart (overcoming spring pressure) to reach lower rpm cruise speeds. a higher pressure spring keeps rpm higher for longer during acceleration. it may help to reduce belt slip as well.
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mp3 500 '08
Joined: 13 Jul 2018
Posts: 40
Location: NYC
Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:50 am quote
Does the Fuzzy washer produce the same effect as the Malossi clutch?
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MP3 500 LT " Matilda"
Joined: 21 Dec 2018
Posts: 61
Location: west Germany
Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:07 am quote
nktwrk
Nope! Let explain. The Fuzzy washer is for a smoother takeoff and for a smoother ride in lower RPMs. Say you`re driving down a city street at 25 mph or 30 kmh ,without it you`re Scoot will shake you up like a Milkshake. With it ;you won`t notice any Milkshake effect. Like I said at the beginning, it will also give you a smooth takeoff. Only the right Vario weights and Clutch (Parts) can give somewhat faster takeoff.
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mp3 500 '08
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Posts: 40
Location: NYC
Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:50 am quote
Thanks for replying.

As I understand your post...the fuzzy washer will remove the "milkshake" at low speed with or without the Malossi clutch?

I want that milkshake gone at low speeds, thats my goal.
Hooked
2008 MP3 400
Joined: 13 May 2017
Posts: 243
Location: Land of Oz
Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:19 pm quote
The 'fuzzy' washer will improve the shudder (milkshake) you experience upon acceleration. It also slightly drops gear ratio improving take-off acceleration. While you are in there you should install some lighter variator weights. My suggestion would be to switch to some Dr. Pulley sliders. With the 'fuzzy' washer and sliders your take-off acceleration will improve dramatically.
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MP3 500 LT " Matilda"
Joined: 21 Dec 2018
Posts: 61
Location: west Germany
Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:30 am quote
Right on the money Dave!
Hooked
Joined: 27 Oct 2016
Posts: 185
Location: England
Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:34 am quote
I could sand the faces of my original clutch and it stopped the judder for 500 miles or so, but changing the clutch sorted this problem long term for me.
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mp3 500 '08
Joined: 13 Jul 2018
Posts: 40
Location: NYC
Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:04 am quote
Frogmandave, do you happen to know where I can get my hands on a fuzzy washer?
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