Trunk issues - light and remote open
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:22 am quote
Hi
I'm happy Fuoco's owner since friday, but have few issues with my bike.

Remote opening from keys isn't working, batterys are checked, both keys aren't work.
Trunk light also isn't working, there is no eletricity going to the bulb.

Fuses 3 and 12 are fine

What should I check?
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Gilera Fuoco
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Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:08 am quote
Check Fuse 4 for the trunk light, or have a look at the switch.
There should be live to one side of the switch, with the other side going to the bulb.
The other side of the bulb goes to earth.

See the manual for how change batteries and re-synch remote.
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:35 am quote
reprogram the key to the ecu

4x ignation on push button if that won't work is the electric motor under the left footrest
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:01 pm quote
Fuse no. 4 was good
Programming the key didn't work

I accidentally discovered that the seat opening sensor does not work. I've fixed it for now, but I have to orderthat part.
So I have light, 1/2 problems solved

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This engine is no. 2 in the picture? I see that there is a fuse there, I hope it's his fault


Please tell me what is that cable going under the couch?


Thank you for your help
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:46 pm quote
Hawk1985 wrote:
Fuse no. 4 was good
Programming the key didn't work

I accidentally discovered that the seat opening sensor does not work. I've fixed it for now, but I have to orderthat part.
So I have light, 1/2 problems solved

---

This engine is no. 2 in the picture? I see that there is a fuse there, I hope it's his fault


Please tell me what is that cable going under the couch?


Thank you for your help
that cable is for the seat sensor for the tilt lock

the fuse #2 is for the starter relay only has nothing to do with the seat remote.
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:36 pm quote
No. 2 is the starter relay.
No. 3 is the 30A fuse in the feed from the regulator to the battery - often referred to as 'the hidden fuse'. The quantity is two because there's a spare fuse there as well.

However neither of the above have anything to do with the trunk remote.
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:53 am quote
Side faring removed, sadle opening reciver located


I tried to zeroing the coltrol unit, as mentioned in manual

and programing the key, but it didn't worked.

I'm almost sure that heard some click once, but it didn't opened the sadle.

Is there any metod to check is it reciver isue, or is it opening engine? Something like puting 12v bulb in specific pins
Maksor wrote:
reprogram the key to the ecu

4x ignation on push button if that won't work is the electric motor under the left footrest
btw how to get to that motor? I removed those 5 bolts as in manual, but can't remove footrest. Should I also remove center tunel first?
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:01 am quote
well start at te back and end at the legshield
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:44 am quote
Almost there


But something still holding the front of footrest, and it's not bolt in circle
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:04 pm quote
why did I discover this channel so late
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6544783D3AE780DD
there is an instruction for mp3 400, which is similar
 
Anyway, I've put bulb in power cable of that engine

but it's not working, and I don't know is it engine or signal reciver.

For now I disconected plugs from reciver, and will leave it for night. It should reset.
Is it good idea to put 12v from batery to trunk opening engine to check it? Do you know which cable is + ?
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:14 pm quote
disconnect the male female connectors blue and black wires in the pic with the opening ecu when connected you continusly resetting the ecu

reprogram key and test again
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:11 am quote
Maksor wrote:
disconnect the male female connectors blue and black wires in the pic with the opening ecu when connected you continusly resetting the ecu

reprogram key and test again
You mean this one?

When I removed the side fairing it was disconnected, I thought the plug was out
It turns out that by default it has to be disconnected?
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:49 am quote
yes
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Gilera Fuoco 500
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:44 am quote
Programming the key worked, it started clicking at the push of a button, but the opening did not work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT8QxRmH8YU
The voltage reached the engine, but the engine did not work

The engine looks a little different, and is located in a different place than the diagram, but it's probably No. 2
https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/gilera-parts/2008-fuoco-500-e3-scooters/remote-control-switches-battery-horn
I hope it is a fuse, because such an engine can be hardly available

Do you know its other designation or a replacement?
Hooked
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:27 pm quote
looks like the actuator is not working. simple test just put 12 volts direct to the actuator to see if it pulls itself in. if not its failed.
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5701697/fuoco-500-fuoco-500-fuoco-500-e3-chassis-number-prefix-zapm61100-2007-2014-fuoco-500-e3-chassis-number-prefix-zapm61100-all/locks
funny how these companies have all different diagrams for the same scooter.
when my actuator failed on my fucco I got a kit off ebay for a few pounds and wired up an alternative actuator. worked perfect there after.
iv always unplugged the seat sensor for the light as paranoid about it staying on resulting in flat battery

sorry if my wording is not clear so here is a link to the item on ebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Car-DC12V-2-Wire-Power-Central-Door-Lock-Actuator-Door-Locking-System-meg/292592729234?hash=item441fe2bc92:g:DMMAAOSwvmNbFn5l:rk:9:pf:0
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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:56 am quote
the link from e-bay those wont work different type those push you need a stronger one that pulls


iff greasing don't works you cold replace the 12v electric motor
otherwise
got OEM in stock 30.- euro 13 shipping
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