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Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:16 pm quote
Miguel wrote:
Point37 wrote:
mpfrank wrote:
Point37 wrote:
nice design...0-60mph in 2.9s...sounds fun...what's the range, price, weight and where is the center of gravity located?...like to see a head to head with this and zero's bikes
0 - 60 mph in under three seconds?

Not quite.

"That model will also zip from standstill to 25 mph (40 km/h) in under three seconds, on its way to a top speed of 62 mph (100 km/h)."
not talking about the scooter, the apex e-motorcycle...

"And with its eyes still on the future, a few details were shared about a concept electric motorcycle called the Segway Apex. Described as a super scooter, this ride will have a top speed of 125 mph and go from standstill to 60 mph in 2.9 seconds. "
I saw the 2.9 seconds for the Apex as well. That is truly amazing torque and speed if they pull it off. Its a nice looking bike.

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Miguel
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:19 am quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkysjXHR60o

Electrek article link.
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:36 pm quote
Has anyone seen or ridden the Harley Livewire yet? Pretty awesome but priced to the moon.
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Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:00 pm quote
Damon Hypersport = 200 mile range
https://damonxlabs.com/

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Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:26 pm quote
https://www.energicamotor.com/energica-eva-esseesse9-old-school-electric-motorcycle/

Italian (of course!). Beautiful, simple design. Performance is in line with similar electric MCs. Unfortunately, they didn't advertise this particular design on their website. I tripped across it somewhere else.

Miguel

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Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:24 am quote
And let's step back to the smaller ones again: I like this!

youtu.be/O6ZNdwfX4_Q

A German... well, e-moto /pedal bike combo.




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Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:45 pm quote
That looks like an incredible machine. Peddles look unnecessary and like they don't add much. I'm just guessing but those may not be allowed in the bike lanes in my area. They are just so fast and will overwhelm bicycles and slower emachines in the bike lanes, creating a hazard for everyone. Just sayin'. But they look fantastic. Thanks for posting. How much are they? Miguel
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:05 am quote
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Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:17 am quote
Miguel wrote:
That looks like an incredible machine. Peddles look unnecessary and like they don't add much. I'm just guessing but those may not be allowed in the bike lanes in my area. They are just so fast and will overwhelm bicycles and slower emachines in the bike lanes, creating a hazard for everyone. Just sayin'. But they look fantastic. Thanks for posting. How much are they? Miguel
.. and here we go again to the downside: the price.

In Germany it is quoted at ~12 000 Eur... which is a lot.
This involves monthly leasing option... and the one-shot purchase price is likely to go down.

Top speed around 80 km/h, range ~120km....classified here as an electric motorcycle, so requires a license and has to be ridden on roads.

Does not look too good based on numbers.... but it does look good and there's the promise for a very interesting pedal response vs. electric speed. Still, hard to say how well this niche will sell.
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Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:30 pm quote
https://www.tecnoandroid.it/2020/01/17/ingegnere-di-voghera-brevetta-la-batteria-che-dura-in-eterno-657943

The battery that lasts forever invented by an Italian arrives

The invention of the engineer Lisini risks leading the revolution of the next technological generation thanks to its battery that lasts forever.The invention of an engineer from Voghera called Gianni Lisini really risks leading the revolution of the next technological generation, since he invented a battery that lasts forever and has earned the nickname "new Volta". Researcher at the Iuss University of Pavia, Lisini has been dealing with astrophysics for years and the encounter with this invention comes from a daily necessity.As Lisini said, the work behind the research has been very tiring. Solving the problem of having to change or recharge batteries often led him to patent the idea in Italy and abroad. However, the validation process is a rather expensive process and, in addition to the filing fees, you have to wait a year to be recognized that your invention is unique.

Presented to the general public during the Jotto Fair in Pisa, or an event organized precisely by the University's Technology Transfer Office that enhances the results of the research. Lisini revealed the operation of the invention and also managed to arouse the interest of the various entrepreneurs and possible funders of the project.

On a practical level, the researcher and engineer explains how it works: “this battery is composed of a chemical accumulator placed next to a super capacitor, a newly built capacitor that has the characteristic of being able to accumulate up to 5 thousand Farads, with the advantage of having a number very high possibility of charge and discharge, millions against the few hundreds of common chemical batteries to manage them together and take advantage of both. We have created prototypes of these batteries, some companies are getting interested and trying them out ”.

Obviously this battery is not really eternal, but it could become it. To date it lasts for 20 years and as you can imagine its applications are endless. From urban transport to electric cars, passing through smartphones, if the initial cost is higher than the normal ones, it is immediately reabsorbed by the fact that it is not necessary to change it often.
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Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:42 pm quote
5kF is a huge capacitance! Planet Earth is only 711µF.

I had read of a 10kF graphene capacitor once - rummages - ah yes:
https://www.graphene-info.com/sunvault-energy-and-edison-power-present-10000-farad-graphene-supercapacitor
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:16 am quote
The nice thing is that it has become a speed race to get more and better progress. There is to be optimistic about it.
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Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:51 am quote
i'd hate to see that capacitor explode...i hope they have shielded it properly to protect the user
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