
What's new in electric scooters and motorcycles |
![]() ![]() |
Post Reply Forum -> General Discussion | Previous12345678Next |
Author | Message |
---|
Veni, Vidi, Posti
![]() ![]() 2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni
Joined: 13 Oct 2012
Posts: 7537 Location: Ashburn, Va. Home to the Internet |
![]() Re: Maybe
roadster wrote: Jimding wrote: Since electric motors produce max torque at nearly zero RPM, a transmission isn't strictly necessary. But most motors have limited high-RPM capability. For a real motorcycle, gearing for a desired top speed (say, 100 MPH) means a very high gear ratio, making low speed performance somewhat lazy. Probably doesn't need a six speed, but 2 or 3 can definitely improve acceleration. |
![]() Re: Maybe
[quote="WEB-Tech"]
roadster wrote: Maybe on a hoverboards so you don't get thrown off, but one of the big advantages of an electric motor is they have 100% torque starting at 1 RPM and it is there till max RPM. |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2021 Location: Finland |
![]() Something different indeed...
the brand name around here is "Unikruiser". Unless proven otherwise, I suspect the origin is somewhere Eastern Asia and we just have one branded version. It's based on gyroscope, quite like the original Segway. Specs nothing spectacular, Top speez 15 km/h Motor 800W/60V Charging time 2 hours Distance with one charge 25 km Still, nice to see "something else"... ![]() |
![]() Re: What's new in electric scooters and motorcycles
RRider wrote: As new electric 2-wheelers pop up faster than mushrooms after rain, they'll deserve an own thread. but no does not look like a cheepo in any way. http://sol-motors.com |
![]() Eric Buell up to his old tricks...
The electric motorcycle will be available in 11kW and 35kW variants. The Fuell Flow has a claimed battery range of 200km and features a connected dashboard and the ability to switch out motors, batteries and chargers for full customisation. And there is room for on-board luggage. ![]() |
![]() I drive an electric van for work.
110 mile range. If I drive mostly around town at 30mph it will pretty much match the miles consumed against the miles traveled. If I go on a faster road doing 60mph it literally eats the battery, knocking off 10miles range in under 2 miles. So if your doing 6 miles at that speed it takes half the days battery!! Air temp also plays a big part. In winter it’s range goes down by about 20%, so it can be hard to complete a shift at work. I’m now very used to what I need to do to eek out as much distance as I can, but on the whole am very dubious about ranges these manufacturers print.....cause I’ve lived it. The plus sides though. Nobody can que jump me cause this thing is quicker off the line than pretty much any car. Also love the assisted braking which also puts some charge back in. A long 2 mile hill can eat 5 miles of distance but going back down the hill can add it back. I’m holding off a few years before I invest in anything electric, it’s too early and think current figures will be found very amusing in the not too distant future. |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2021 Location: Finland |
![]() znomit wrote: Eric Buell up to his old tricks... The electric motorcycle will be available in 11kW and 35kW variants. The Fuell Flow has a claimed battery range of 200km and features a connected dashboard and the ability to switch out motors, batteries and chargers for full customisation. And there is room for on-board luggage. ![]() |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() 2009 GTV250, 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
Posts: 3941 Location: Santa Cruz California |
![]() Zero Motorcycle (about 15 miles from me) is releasing the Zero SR/F:
-- 124 MPH -- 200 mile range -- 140 bhp -- Starting at $18K but looks like it could go up to mid $20K -- Lots of details and qualifiers. See Zero's site Best Miguel ![]() |
eeee-bip
![]() ![]() Benelli TNT 125/Kymco AK550 I don't care. You can quote me.
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
Posts: 17327 Location: South East Great England of Britishland ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2021 Location: Finland |
![]() Miguel wrote: Zero Motorcycle (about 15 miles from me) is releasing the Zero SR/F: -- 124 MPH -- 200 mile range -- 140 bhp -- Starting at $18K but looks like it could go up to mid $20K -- Lots of details and qualifiers. See Zero's site Best Miguel ] ![]() |
![]() |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() 2009 GTV250, 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
Posts: 3941 Location: Santa Cruz California |
![]() Chasbro wrote: Best Miguel |
![]() Chasbro wrote: |
![]() I made the tiller out of pvc. Its just hose clamped to the steering post. Actually its two unions connected by a short piece of pvc that are hose clamped to the post. The tiller just pushes in to the top union. You can easily ride it without the tiller if you're not bowlegged. Also I needed the handlebar to mount my phone to control the drone. Its all push fit. The store bought handles were a little pricey for me.
|
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() 2009 GTV250, 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
Posts: 3941 Location: Santa Cruz California |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2021 Location: Finland |
![]() Chasbro wrote: I made the tiller out of pvc. Its just hose clamped to the steering post. Actually its two unions connected by a short piece of pvc that are hose clamped to the post. The tiller just pushes in to the top union. You can easily ride it without the tiller if you're not bowlegged. Also I needed the handlebar to mount my phone to control the drone. Its all push fit. The store bought handles were a little pricey for me. I was just going to ask how you did the video - nice use of that drone. |
![]() |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2021 Location: Finland |
![]() Well, not exactly new, but a nice example of these pedal/electric hybrid city slickers.
As discussed earlier, there doesn't seem to be end for the bicycle boom in many European countries. At the same time, various electrically assisted bicycles/ kickboard scooter - type vehicles also become more and more common. This US origin brand is already a pioneering product in this area...I do like the idea of utilizing the upperframe to help carrying electrical stuff and make it look more like a moped... but it may be this compromises the riding position a bit too much to make it popular among those who also like to use the pedals = a big portion of the target group. ![]() Oh, and there's of course the retro twist too... |
Molto Verboso
![]() ![]() Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956 - Moto Guzzi Airone 250 Sport 1951
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 1894 Location: Latina (Italy) |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2021 Location: Finland |
![]() Attila wrote: https://www.poliniebike.com/en/ Although still more at the high end of price scale, there's a lot of competition with many quite similar type of approaches. Either an integrated e-motor with the pedals area or a one at a rear wheel (or even front wheel, though those are typically more for retro-fits). It will be interesting to follow, who the markets for city oriented 2-wheelers with electric motors develop....I believe the ones with room for some muscle work / back-up power, like e-bikes and kick-board thingies will continue to gain popularity... but the storage capacity & a bit if weather protection from the scoots today may have an element there too. |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2021 Location: Finland |
![]() Another one... this time from Sweden!
Interesting looks, could be posted on "what's new in retro motorcycles..." as well. https://regent-motorcycles.com/ Re-design for the rather boxy battery area already promised... ![]()
Positive
|
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() 2009 GTV250, 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
Posts: 3941 Location: Santa Cruz California |
![]() RRider wrote: Another one... this time from Sweden! Interesting looks, could be posted on "what's new in retro motorcycles..." as well. https://regent-motorcycles.com/ Re-design for the rather boxy battery area already promised... Miguel |
Veni, Vidi, Posti
![]() ![]() Modded Vespa 2017 GTV 300, BMW 2017 C650GT, Ural 2019 Gear Up
Joined: 21 May 2017
Posts: 5762 Location: Downtown Toronto |
![]() RRider wrote: Another one... this time from Sweden! Interesting looks, could be posted on "what's new in retro motorcycles..." as well. https://regent-motorcycles.com/ Re-design for the rather boxy battery area already promised... |
Veni, Vidi, Posti
![]() ![]() 2007 LX150 2015 GTS 2013 BV 350
Joined: 13 Sep 2012
Posts: 8782 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin |
![]() FWIW
Cool little electric at AV.
Could use a taller version myself.... but the owner loves it and certainly transport is not too challenging.... ![]() |
Molto Verboso
![]() ![]() Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956 - Moto Guzzi Airone 250 Sport 1951
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 1894 Location: Latina (Italy) |
![]() You can see it from many points of view but the question remains, what can come of good we all know ... the two keys are autonomy and charging time for battery-powered vehicles.
Nothing is created from nothing and nothing is destroyed, everything is transformed ... and everything produces pollution, even electric vehicles. Battery disposal as and where, especially where ... Dear friends, it is since the beginning of the twentieth century that they try with electric traction and the only genius one who went near the solution was crucified, there were too many economic interests and many enemies had been made. |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2021 Location: Finland |
![]() Another concept
or actually a prototype.
This is one way to "hide" the battery... https://www.curtissmotorcycles.com/hades ![]() ... can't help thinking Austin Powers movies |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2021 Location: Finland |
![]() Re: Another concept
RRider wrote: or actually a prototype. This is one way to "hide" the battery... https://www.curtissmotorcycles.com/hades |
Veni, Vidi, Posti
![]() ![]() Modded Vespa 2017 GTV 300, BMW 2017 C650GT, Ural 2019 Gear Up
Joined: 21 May 2017
Posts: 5762 Location: Downtown Toronto |
![]() Re: Another concept
RRider wrote: or actually a prototype. This is one way to "hide" the battery... https://www.curtissmotorcycles.com/hades |
Hooked
![]() ![]() 2009 GTV 250, 2018 GTV300 sei giorni, 2012 LXV 125ie and V90
Joined: 11 Mar 2018
Posts: 339 Location: Guatemala |
![]() Well, these are not new, but are new to me, I really like the piaggio wibike, my dealer in Guatemala just imported M and Large frames and I need a small one. I will try to import one myself if I can find it in the US.
![]() ![]() |
Veni, Vidi, Posti
![]() ![]() Modded Vespa 2017 GTV 300, BMW 2017 C650GT, Ural 2019 Gear Up
Joined: 21 May 2017
Posts: 5762 Location: Downtown Toronto |
![]() ValVitola wrote: Well, these are not new, but are new to me, I really like the piaggio wibike, my dealer in Guatemala just imported M and Large frames and I need a small one. I will try to import one myself if I can find it in the US. |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() 2020 MP3 Sport 500 HPE ABS ASR
Joined: 25 Aug 2007
Posts: 3995 Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora Reina de los Ángeles sobre el Río Porciúncula |
![]() Re: Another concept
RRider wrote: or actually a prototype. This is one way to "hide" the battery... https://www.curtissmotorcycles.com/hades Just hang a basket of hot coals below the, um, thingy* and off you go! Actually, I think the whole bike looks kinda cool. *member? manhood? |
Hooked
![]() ![]() 2009 GTV 250, 2018 GTV300 sei giorni, 2012 LXV 125ie and V90
Joined: 11 Mar 2018
Posts: 339 Location: Guatemala |
![]() Harbinger wrote: ValVitola wrote: Well, these are not new, but are new to me, I really like the piaggio wibike, my dealer in Guatemala just imported M and Large frames and I need a small one. I will try to import one myself if I can find it in the US. |
![]() Looks like Harley is going to carry through with the $30,000 Livewire, for those of you who feel the need to conspicuously consume. Other than the HD nameplate, nothing special about it. I presume the paint and chrome are outstanding, though. Wonder how long before a tricycle conversion becomes available?
|
Veni, Vidi, Posti
![]() ![]() Modded Vespa 2017 GTV 300, BMW 2017 C650GT, Ural 2019 Gear Up
Joined: 21 May 2017
Posts: 5762 Location: Downtown Toronto |
![]() Jimding wrote: Looks like Harley is going to carry through with the $30,000 Livewire, for those of you who feel the need to conspicuously consume. Other than the HD nameplate, nothing special about it. I presume the paint and chrome are outstanding, though. Wonder how long before a tricycle conversion becomes available? I'm not a fan of the trike conversions but if it keeps someone riding that could not otherwise more power to them. |
Molto Verboso
![]() ![]() 2009 GTS 250, 2013 Buddy 125, 2014 Triumph Bonneville
Joined: 23 Apr 2016
Posts: 1910 Location: North Jersey |
![]() If you already own a quality bicycle that you like....
I've been considering this for a while. U.S. made. You just change out your front wheel with this one. Motor and battery is inside the wheel. From company 'geo orbital' ![]() |
Moderaptor
![]() ![]() The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 37666 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA |
![]() Here's a UK one - there's a big selection out there.
![]() https://www.amazon.co.uk/ReaseJoy-Electric-Bicycle-Conversion-Cycling/dp/B01D0317E6 |
Veni, Vidi, Posti
![]() ![]() 2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni
Joined: 13 Oct 2012
Posts: 7537 Location: Ashburn, Va. Home to the Internet |
![]() jimc wrote: Here's a UK one - there's a big selection out there. ![]() https://www.amazon.co.uk/ReaseJoy-Electric-Bicycle-Conversion-Cycling/dp/B01D0317E6 And these are available in 1000 watts versions. |
Molto Verboso
![]() ![]() 2009 GTS 250, 2013 Buddy 125, 2014 Triumph Bonneville
Joined: 23 Apr 2016
Posts: 1910 Location: North Jersey |
![]() WEB-Tech wrote: jimc wrote: Here's a UK one - there's a big selection out there. ![]() https://www.amazon.co.uk/ReaseJoy-Electric-Bicycle-Conversion-Cycling/dp/B01D0317E6 And these are available in 1000 watts versions. Interesting question. I never heard of anyone trying to mount both front and rears at the same time. It's usually front mount for street riding and rear mount for people that go off road. Be careful with these because there's lots of cheap Chinese made ones recently entering the market and people can't get customer support. |
Ossessionato
![]() ![]() 2009 GTV250, 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: 24 Jun 2009
Posts: 3941 Location: Santa Cruz California |
![]() WEB-Tech wrote: jimc wrote: Here's a UK one - there's a big selection out there. ![]() https://www.amazon.co.uk/ReaseJoy-Electric-Bicycle-Conversion-Cycling/dp/B01D0317E6 And these are available in 1000 watts versions. Miguel |
![]() ![]() |
Post Reply Forum -> General Discussion | Previous12345678Next |
[ Time: 0.1967s ][ Queries: 27 (0.0518s) ][ Debug on ] |