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Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:58 pm quote
I could definitely see getting something like this when I hit 80 and let go of the MP3.

OSA electric utility scooter.jpg

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Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:04 am quote
cool but quite hideous and uncomfortable looking
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Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:09 am quote
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It looks like they designers all walked out at the prototype stage.

Not handsome.

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Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:53 am quote
Looks like instead of computer CAD, all they could afford to design it with was a LEGO set.
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Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:10 pm quote
I'm sure I would add my usual farkles: Grip Buddies, custom seat, top box, etc.
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Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:15 pm quote
Box
That seat really does need looking at.

Actually the whole thing wants looking at.

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Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:16 pm quote
Zero weather protection.
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Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:50 pm quote
Bill Dog wrote:
That seat really does need looking at.
Not to mention the rear fender - especially if you are a ride in the rain kind of guy.
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:01 am quote
Not a great seat if you have a touch of the Chalfonts and hit a speed bump at 40mph.
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:37 pm quote
Just saying...
Bill Dog wrote:
Not handsome.

Bill x
Nor is an older fella on a little fellas bike...
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Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:39 pm quote
Such
I'm over compensating.

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Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:41 pm quote
Toto
If I cared do you think that I'd put that picture up there ?

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Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:20 pm quote
johnymoore wrote:
Not a great seat if you have a touch of the Chalfonts and hit a speed bump at 40mph.
Took me a while to find Chalfonts.

Reminded me of santorum.
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:17 pm quote
Just got an email from ScooterWest about the 2020 Vespa Niu all-electric scooter. Seems like they're coming along and the price tag is slowly coming down into semi-reasonable territory. This one seems to have two model variants: comparable, according to the specs in the email, to a 50cc and a ~75cc.

If they keep making progress in development, my next scooter will hopefully be electric. That would be enjoyable, especially if it lets me ride without the engine noise!
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:35 pm quote
Ask
Vespa Niu ? It's either a Vespa or a Niu. Two different brands.

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Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:51 pm quote
Huh? :re-examines email:
Oh.
It's late and the email was heavily logo'd. I stand corrected... and newly aware of another scooter brand.
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:55 pm quote
The Nui is being sold through Genuine dealers in the United States (Vespa Motorsport in San Diego is a Genuine dealer BTW). And there are actually 3 models available. https://www.niu.com/us/

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Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:59 pm quote
Muscle
My local dealer sells them.

Very impressive.

The time isn't right for me yet.

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Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:47 pm quote
Cheshire wrote:
Huh? :re-examines email:
Oh.
It's late and the email was heavily logo'd. I stand corrected... and newly aware of another scooter brand.
Vespa. Everywhere. Except in this email.

Niu Everywhere.png

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Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:48 pm quote
Paste
Yeah, that is a little misleading isn't it.

Sack the graphic artist.

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Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:35 am quote
Cheshire wrote:
Just got an email from ScooterWest about the 2020 Vespa Niu all-electric scooter. Seems like they're coming along and the price tag is slowly coming down into semi-reasonable territory. This one seems to have two model variants: comparable, according to the specs in the email, to a 50cc and a ~75cc.

If they keep making progress in development, my next scooter will hopefully be electric. That would be enjoyable, especially if it lets me ride without the engine noise!
I would miss the engine noise. To me it's part of the man and machine bond that you get when riding especially on a geared bike. For an electric I would definitely need something that performed at least as well as a 300 and preferably have a top end of at least 120 kmh. In other words freeway capable.
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Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:20 pm quote
https://www.imz-ural.com.au/electric

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Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:51 pm quote
Self balancing electric scooter


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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:29 pm quote
~0.33 there's a jump in the video when she climbs on.

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Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:56 pm quote
I have been riding one of the NIU share bikes around Barcelona and they are quite impressive. I might buy one once the tariffs go away to tinker with. Very high build quality.
Dooglas wrote:
The Nui is being sold through Genuine dealers in the United States (Vespa Motorsport in San Diego is a Genuine dealer BTW). And there are actually 3 models available. https://www.niu.com/us/
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Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:22 am quote
Goes an indicated 45kph[/img]

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Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:38 am quote
Oh... most holy gods how ugly it is, did the designer make packaging?
... there is a Gilera Fuoco behind ...
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Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:03 am quote
That’s my neighbor’s Fuoco. He also has a Harley Sportster, which he is out riding.

The graphics are ugly, but they stand out when someone wants to rent one.
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Oh... most holy gods how ugly it is, did the designer make packaging?
... there is a Gilera Fuoco behind ...
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Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:13 pm quote
Harbinger wrote:
Cheshire wrote:
Just got an email from ScooterWest about the 2020 Vespa Niu all-electric scooter. Seems like they're coming along and the price tag is slowly coming down into semi-reasonable territory. This one seems to have two model variants: comparable, according to the specs in the email, to a 50cc and a ~75cc.

If they keep making progress in development, my next scooter will hopefully be electric. That would be enjoyable, especially if it lets me ride without the engine noise!
I would miss the engine noise. To me it's part of the man and machine bond that you get when riding especially on a geared bike. For an electric I would definitely need something that performed at least as well as a 300 and preferably have a top end of at least 120 kmh. In other words freeway capable.
I realize that I'm in the very small minority (or seemingly so) of riders that prefer quiet bikes. For me, it goes back to bicycling roots and 100 mile days where the miles and thoughts would just unwind down the road or trail. Engine noise mucks that up for me. It's why my '09 Triumph Bonnie was my favorite motorcycle and one of the things I loved about the GTS: they were quiet...the Bonnie so much so that I installed a tachometer because letting off the throttle kept making me think I had stalled. One of the reasons I sold my Kawa Vulcan cruiser was because it broke my heart to see little kids reflexively cover their ears when I turned the key to start it. It wasn't loud, but you could tell they made the association that cruiser = ears hurt.
The new Street Twin is louder...I'm kinda hoping it quiets down as it breaks in.

I would LOVE an electric that could do highways...but it's probably a decade or so away. (I hope not, though!) I'll settle for the performance of a 125-150cc to compliment the car and ICE bike until then...but it needs a top speed of 60mph so it can keep up with the flow of traffic on 45mph roads...IMHO.

Still...the double-battery one has a (listed) top speed of 45mph while the single-battery is 30mph...progress!
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Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:12 pm quote
I love the silence. There's so much else to hear.

But if you must...

http://www.turbospoke.com/turbospoke-bicycle-exhaust-system.php
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Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:11 am quote
Sledge wrote:
https://www.imz-ural.com.au/electric
Yeah that actually has a lot of promise. Sure it’s a heavy bike but the sidecar has a lot of battery carrying capacity. It’s we’ll pass the early testing and things look promising. We’ll see where it goes.
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Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:29 pm quote
Segway making e-scooter/e-motorcycle.
https://newatlas.com/urban-transport/segway-emoped-escooter-apex/

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Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:31 pm quote
Such
Oh I really like that.

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Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:36 pm quote
Nice. Thx for posting it.

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Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:32 pm quote
Sledge wrote:
Segway making e-scooter/e-motorcycle.
An e-scooter with a range of up to 125 miles, and a top speed of 62 mph. That certainly caught my attention. Now, about price?
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Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:50 pm quote
Sledge wrote:
I’m intrigued!!!!!
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Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:01 am quote
nice design...0-60mph in 2.9s...sounds fun...what's the range, price, weight and where is the center of gravity located?...like to see a head to head with this and zero's bikes
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Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:48 am quote
Point37 wrote:
nice design...0-60mph in 2.9s...sounds fun...what's the range, price, weight and where is the center of gravity located?...like to see a head to head with this and zero's bikes
0 - 60 mph in under three seconds?

Not quite.

"That model will also zip from standstill to 25 mph (40 km/h) in under three seconds, on its way to a top speed of 62 mph (100 km/h)."
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Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:28 am quote
mpfrank wrote:
Point37 wrote:
nice design...0-60mph in 2.9s...sounds fun...what's the range, price, weight and where is the center of gravity located?...like to see a head to head with this and zero's bikes
0 - 60 mph in under three seconds?

Not quite.

"That model will also zip from standstill to 25 mph (40 km/h) in under three seconds, on its way to a top speed of 62 mph (100 km/h)."
not talking about the scooter, the apex e-motorcycle...

"And with its eyes still on the future, a few details were shared about a concept electric motorcycle called the Segway Apex. Described as a super scooter, this ride will have a top speed of 125 mph and go from standstill to 60 mph in 2.9 seconds. "
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Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:52 am quote
Point37 wrote:
mpfrank wrote:
Point37 wrote:
nice design...0-60mph in 2.9s...sounds fun...what's the range, price, weight and where is the center of gravity located?...like to see a head to head with this and zero's bikes
0 - 60 mph in under three seconds?

Not quite.

"That model will also zip from standstill to 25 mph (40 km/h) in under three seconds, on its way to a top speed of 62 mph (100 km/h)."
not talking about the scooter, the apex e-motorcycle...

"And with its eyes still on the future, a few details were shared about a concept electric motorcycle called the Segway Apex. Described as a super scooter, this ride will have a top speed of 125 mph and go from standstill to 60 mph in 2.9 seconds. "
I saw the 2.9 seconds for the Apex as well. That is truly amazing torque and speed if they pull it off. Its a nice looking bike.

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