Do crash bars really work?
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Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:39 pm quote
I live on a hill & my new GTS300 blows over in the wind when the cover is on. I’ve decided not to cover it & get the OEM Vespa crash bars, but it seems like they’re only covering a section of the side. Please advise. Thx!

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:56 pm quote
Since you've got saddlebags anyway - don't they touch the ground before the crash bars would?
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Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:47 pm quote
Fitting side bars is not going to address the issue of your scooter falling over. The best bet is to listen to some of the advice given in response to your earlier post.

FWIW, the opinions on whether crash bars are effective in preventing damage is very much split between members here. I advocate the use of them, but they will only be useful for limiting the dents and scratches to your side cowlings for when your scoot tips over, and some members will claim they don't even do that. They are a costly investment and usually don't increase the re-sale value should you ever decide to sell your scoot.

As Dooglas suggested, you will probably get similar if not better protection from your saddlebags.
Molto Verboso
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:20 am quote
OK, heres my rationale:
Lets say it tips over again with the bars on it. Then you have expensive bars that are scratched or possibly dented. How's that look?
IMO, they look dorky and serve little purpose for me. If mine did tip I can personally do the body work for far less money than what I'd have spent on the bars I disliked to begin with.
I've never tipped a Vespa but many used ones have a dimple or two on the rear sides. Bar ends seem to survive OK, as does the leg shield?
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:27 pm quote
First off, best to avoid tipping over....it's not just scratches that you risk.....

But, I've tipped both my Vespas over a total of 3 or 4 times, , never scratched paint thanks to the bars. No, they won't magically protect from everything, but they can easily pay for themselves. I have the FACOs by the way, probably the flimsier of the choices.

YMMV.
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:18 am quote
Crash bars really do save your bacon if the scoot falls on a relatively flat surface. I was rear-ended on my LX... the bike was punted out from under me and skidded on its side for about 15 feet. There was no sheet metal damage whatsoever... just a scuffed edge on the windscreen and a bent brake lever. There were minor scratches in the thick chrome plating of the OEM crash bars, but they are barely visible and have not rusted.

On the other hand, my wife dropped our LXV while putting it on the center stand and it fell against a curb. In that circumstance, the crash bars didn't help much.
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Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:40 pm quote
The OEM that you have is POS. I still have mine: hanging in the hooks in my garage. I love your front rack though... very cool!
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Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:14 am quote
Max6200 wrote:
The OEM that you have is POS. I still have mine: hanging in the hooks in my garage. I love your front rack though... very cool!
In what way are they a POS? I love mine... they've saved my bacon more than once. I've had them on my LX for ten years and they still look almost new thanks to the thick chrome plating.
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Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:00 pm quote
Silver Streak wrote:
Max6200 wrote:
The OEM that you have is POS. I still have mine: hanging in the hooks in my garage. I love your front rack though... very cool!
In what way are they a POS? I love mine... they've saved my bacon more than once. I've had them on my LX for ten years and they still look almost new thanks to the thick chrome plating.
^+1

Mine on my LX protected my paint and frame when I got t-boned.
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Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:59 pm quote
I have OEM bars front and back. I've managed to tip mine over three times and the only (very minor) damage was to the rubber handgrip and the outside of the mirror. Personally, I'd say bars are well worth the moolah.
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:06 am quote
But wait! It gets worse.
Read some of the posts on crash bars and feel, IMO that they are worth the money. But, found out something yesterday about at least the 2019 models and probably earlier models, they have device that will kill the fuel pump in the event of a crash. Sure something like an auto that will disable the electric fuel pump in the event of a crash or roll over. Ok then, what's the problem you say. Well, according to the Vespa mechanic who worked on my GTS 300 yesterday, the device is located between the floor boards and requires taking the inner half off to even access it. Said that he has had to remove at least one to re set it. Couldn't get it to re set while on the scoot. Hummmmm While I hope to never have a crash or tip over that will trip it, Thinking I would be dead in the water in a parking lot or where ever if this happened. Not a "on scene" re set. Anyone ever heard of this happening? Thinking maybe if it ever does about re locating it to a more accessible area. Auto's do have it usually around a front kick panel, not readily seen but accessible. What are your thoughts and knowledge on this? Thanks
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:02 am quote
Silver Streak wrote:
Max6200 wrote:
The OEM that you have is POS. I still have mine: hanging in the hooks in my garage. I love your front rack though... very cool!
In what way are they a POS? I love mine... they've saved my bacon more than once. I've had them on my LX for ten years and they still look almost new thanks to the thick chrome plating.
They are attached to the fairing in the back not to the frame. I cracked it once

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Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:59 am quote
Max6200 wrote:
Silver Streak wrote:
Max6200 wrote:
The OEM that you have is POS. I still have mine: hanging in the hooks in my garage. I love your front rack though... very cool!
In what way are they a POS? I love mine... they've saved my bacon more than once. I've had them on my LX for ten years and they still look almost new thanks to the thick chrome plating.
They are attached to the fairing in the back not to the frame. I cracked it once
Those aren't the OEM LX crash bars.

The OEM bars look like this and do attach to the frame:

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Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:47 pm quote
Silver Streak wrote:
Max6200 wrote:
Silver Streak wrote:
Max6200 wrote:
The OEM that you have is POS. I still have mine: hanging in the hooks in my garage. I love your front rack though... very cool!
In what way are they a POS? I love mine... they've saved my bacon more than once. I've had them on my LX for ten years and they still look almost new thanks to the thick chrome plating.
They are attached to the fairing in the back not to the frame. I cracked it once
Those aren't the OEM LX crash bars.

The OEM bars look like this and do attach to the frame:
Brain fart. I should have said after market. The OEM is a the best.
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:25 pm quote
No worries, Max. My brain farts distressingly regularly!
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:55 pm quote
Thank you all for the input. It helps
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:35 pm quote
I've seen bikes that have gone down hard with them on, and the OEM bars do a pretty good job of protecting the bike.
You will add a bit of time to many common services, but that's a tradeoff a lot of people don't mind making.
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