MP3 as a first ride
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:01 am quote
I am 72...never ridden....considering MP3

QUESTION....Would MP3 be good choice. as a first ride
Also ...its heavy...is that going to be a problem maneuvering in the garage, etc.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:57 am quote
Re: MP3 as a first ride
Newbie 1946 wrote:
I am 72...never ridden....considering MP3

QUESTION....Would MP3 be good choice. as a first ride
Also ...its heavy...is that going to be a problem maneuvering in the garage, etc.
No...
Can-Am is in your Future...

Keith,
Marietta, GA
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:50 am quote
Re: MP3 as a first ride
klaborde wrote:
Newbie 1946 wrote:
I am 72...never ridden....considering MP3

QUESTION....Would MP3 be good choice. as a first ride
Also ...its heavy...is that going to be a problem maneuvering in the garage, etc.
No...
Can-Am is in your Future...

Keith,
Marietta, GA
Turns out I have both a Can Am Spyder and an MP3 500.
I'll say it depends, on several things.
First, if by saying you are 72 you FEEL 72 (stereotypically), and if you are looking at the MP3 as a three-wheeler that is more stable at all times than a typical motorcycle, then I'd say no. Don't do it. The MP3 is heavy, which makes low-speed maneuvers tricky, and the tilt-lock is ONLY functional when stopped. You can use the tilt-lock to move the scooter around on a FLAT surface, but if one of the front wheels falls into a hole you're done for. But as for just moving it around a garage or a paved parking area, yeah the tilt-lock is great. But for that purpose, so is a GTS 250 or 300 (depends if you buy new or used).

As to the Spyder, or even the new ride that Can Am came out with recently, that could be a good starter but it is WAY more expensive than a scooter. In this case the three wheels actually make the ride behave like a car. You'll never tip it over, but then it's wide like a car so can't fit or maneuver where a 2-wheeled vehicle can.

If you were my father and in good shape, I'd be pointing you toward a Vespa 150cc scooter, probably used, to start with. Very good shape with some remaining athleticism (strength and coordination), perhaps the somewhat heavier, more capable GTS 250/300.

Overall for any new rider though, I'd recommend to start small(ish).
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:04 am quote
Re: MP3 as a first ride
Madison Sully wrote:
klaborde wrote:
Newbie 1946 wrote:
I am 72...never ridden....considering MP3

QUESTION....Would MP3 be good choice. as a first ride
Also ...its heavy...is that going to be a problem maneuvering in the garage, etc.
No...
Can-Am is in your Future...

Keith,
Marietta, GA
Turns out I have both a Can Am Spyder and an MP3 500.
I'll say it depends, on several things.
First, if by saying you are 72 you FEEL 72 (stereotypically), and if you are looking at the MP3 as a three-wheeler that is more stable at all times than a typical motorcycle, then I'd say no. Don't do it. The MP3 is heavy, which makes low-speed maneuvers tricky, and the tilt-lock is ONLY functional when stopped. You can use the tilt-lock to move the scooter around on a FLAT surface, but if one of the front wheels falls into a hole you're done for. But as for just moving it around a garage or a paved parking area, yeah the tilt-lock is great. But for that purpose, so is a GTS 250 or 300 (depends if you buy new or used).

As to the Spyder, or even the new ride that Can Am came out with recently, that could be a good starter but it is WAY more expensive than a scooter. In this case the three wheels actually make the ride behave like a car. You'll never tip it over, but then it's wide like a car so can't fit or maneuver where a 2-wheeled vehicle can.

If you were my father and in good shape, I'd be pointing you toward a Vespa 150cc scooter, probably used, to start with. Very good shape with some remaining athleticism (strength and coordination), perhaps the somewhat heavier, more capable GTS 250/300.

Overall for any new rider though, I'd recommend to start small(ish).
I love my GTS/300... !
+ The Maintenance of the MP3...

Good Explanation.

Keith,
Marietta, GA
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:48 pm quote
As a 70-year-old MP3 rider I'll echo Madison Sully. The MP3 is a heavy beast and not a trike. It's quite difficult to ride at slow speeds. If it drops, it's very difficult to get upright, and you can hurt yourself doing so.
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:53 pm quote
MP3 as a first ride
curious ....with two wheels in front why is it hard to keep upright at
slow speeds ?[/list]
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Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:16 pm quote
Re: MP3 as a first ride
Newbie 1946 wrote:
curious ....with two wheels in front why is it hard to keep upright at
slow speeds ?[/list]
Because the wheels don't lock when you are moving. If they did you would fall over when you made a turn. As soon as you roll on some throttle you can go over.
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:18 am quote
Isn't this a duplicate of your post on the General Discussion forum?

MP3 500...as a First Ride

Usually considered poor form to double post a question. Just commenting for future reference. I realize you are a new member.
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Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:49 pm quote
Dooglas wrote:
Isn't this a duplicate of your post on the General Discussion forum?

MP3 500...as a First Ride

Usually considered poor form to double post a question. Just commenting for future reference. I realize you are a new member.
Bah, don't worry about it.
It has been rather quiet around here lately, and besides, posting in both places makes sense on this one.
First to MP3 riders, does this work well as a first ride at 72?
Second to everyone, what is a good first ride at 72?

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Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:16 pm quote
Honda 50 is my suggestion.What could be better as a first bike to ride.
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Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:48 pm quote
3legsofman wrote:
Honda 50 is my suggestion.What could be better as a first bike to ride.
Lots of things? Honda 50 for a 50 isn't a bad little bike. However if considering the large MP3 you need to start bigger than that and have something that will at least be allowed on an interstate though maybe not recommended. So I'd say a 150 or maybe the small MP3 to start?

The CanAM came to mind for me as well. You get the freedom of the open air but not the full motorbike experience as there is no lean. However if leaning a bike around corners is not a big concern it is a great fit. I'm certainly open to the idea of a CanAM in my older years.
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Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:08 pm quote
I have to add, I'm 55 and have a bum knee. I find the MP3 easy to move in and out of the garage because I lock it up right and maneuver it that way without throttle to a place where I've made it easy to back in and pull out of. I don't have to turn around in my garage though I have. Other than that, as Sully says, a Vespa GTS/GTV is an easier scoot to maneuver in every other way, especially off bike. It's also peppier. Surprisingly so compared to the MP3 500.
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Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:22 am quote
3legsofman wrote:
Honda 50 is my suggestion.What could be better as a first bike to ride.
Something that will go up a hill and maintain speed. No reason at all to start on a 50cc, I would go with a cheap used 150 then get the MP3 once you get use to riding.
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Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:54 am quote
first choice is MSF class to learn HOW to ride in a controlled environment FIRST.

after a successful completion then come back and ask some more questions before buying ANYING.
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Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:24 am quote
old as dirt wrote:
first choice is MSF class to learn HOW to ride in a controlled environment FIRST.

after a successful completion then come back and ask some more questions before buying ANYING.
This! And then go to a multi-brand dealer and ride several products.
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Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:13 am quote
Harbinger wrote:
Lots of things? Honda 50 for a 50 isn't a bad little bike. However if considering the large MP3 you need to start bigger than that and have something that will at least be allowed on an interstate though maybe not recommended. So I'd say a 150 or maybe the small MP3 to start?
I agree regarding a 150 as a first scooter. I would not recommend a 250 MP3, however, for the same reason I would not recommend a 400/500. All the MP3s including the 250 are quite heavy. The 250 weighs a hundred pounds more than a Piaggio BV500.
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Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:00 am quote
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Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:21 pm quote
Hmmm! I feel that this post about age and MP3 suitability is speaking to me. See my 'introductory' post dated today. I am 78 with a hip replacement, a bad left knee, spinal sclerosis, arthritis and severe sciatica that renders my right leg and foot almost useless.
I switched from motorbikes to this scooter because all the controls are on the handlebar and I find that when riding I don't need legs.
I considered a Spyder and the smaller, and cheaper Ryker, but those things are too expensive and besides sooo ugly that I would be embarrassed to be seen in public on one.
I would not recommend the MP3 to an inexperienced rider because it is bulky and top heavy, which means slow riding, especially slow turning is tricky and dangerous. Not to mention the seating position. At 6'8" I find it is more suited to monkeys than humans and my knees nearly touch the handles.
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