What's the WORST deal you've ever made on a scooter?
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Ossessionato
LX150, GTS300, BV350, EN650
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Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:38 am quote
We all tout great scooter deals when we find and/or take advantage of them. On the other side of the coin, what's the worst deal you've ever fallen for? Overpaid, hidden damage, something not working, false advertising, lemon of the century, seller ripped you off. etc. (Let's save how "not to get taken" or "I've never been taken because I take precautions blah blah blah" for another thread).

There's got to be some good stories out there.
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Piaggio MP3 250, BigBeo
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 104
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:58 am quote
Well, I've bought BigBeo.
First of all it had very old, worn Malossi clutch which melted and welded to clutch bell on a hill. Allright, when I (finally) got home, I've opened its CVT case and found there wear from rollers (they were placed wrong way). More: the crankshaft oil seal on the front CVT axle was slightly loosing oil. Finally, its rear wheel nut was loose and lost somewhere, which caused the rear brake disk to damage brake caliper and heavy nasty wobble in turns.

Wanna do it right? Do it yourself. I should not trust the seller (which is a member of MC) and check everything before ride.

Now I am going on with replacing, rebuilding, checking, etc.
Ossessionato
2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Location: Millbin, Ostrayleea, mate
Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:24 am quote
EVERYONE who brought a Bodge!
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Vespa lxv 125 vie dell moda Chianti
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Posts: 731
Location: Cheshire
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:46 am quote
selling my lambretta TV GT 200 for £180.00. wish i had kept it then again in 1985 that was the going price for one of these.
Molto Verboso
2005 PX150 In a Love-Hate Relationship with a 2-Stroke Vespa Since 2007
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:56 pm quote
This is easy. Paying full price for a 2005 PX150 from a Vespa dealer. What could go wrong?
Molto Verboso
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Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:00 pm quote
pdxjim wrote:
This is easy. Paying full price for a 2005 PX150 from a Vespa dealer. What could go wrong?
This is my vote for funniest post of the week...and it's only Monday.
Hooked
'04 Stella 2T GB150 '15 Genuine Roughhouse 50 '17 Kawasaki Versys 650
Joined: 08 Jun 2012
Posts: 335
Location: Philadelphia
Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:33 am quote
Bought a Tomos moped for my son that had an idling issue, from the neighboring state of New Jersey. $350

"Oh that'd be a easy fix". I thought to myself.

Went to register the moped in PA, turns out it's about $300 and a trip to Harrisburg with the moped since it's an out of state vehicle.

Fixed the moped, couldn't get it it run quite right, took it to my scooter shop, he adjusted some things, told me I should get new rear shocks. (he was not wrong). $250

Took it home... ran good for one day, then continued to have issues.

Sold it for a loss. $300.

The new owner texted me the next day. The crank disintegrated on him.
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T5s
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Location: The West Of Yorkshire ... Gods Country
Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:29 am quote
salt celery
Sold a radio console for 20quid there's one on ebay for 150. Sold a px drivers screen for 15 cos I only had t5s 😕
MV Santa
GTS250, 1960 VBA, 1975 VBC, 1980 P200E cutdown
Joined: 04 May 2010
Posts: 4084
Location: Sedgwick, Kansas
Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:16 am quote
I suppose I've been lucky. My only scooter purchase regrets are ones that I didn't buy.
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63 Lambretta LI 125 series 3, 71 Sprint Veloce , 2005 Vespa PX150, 1979 P200E
Joined: 04 Jul 2011
Posts: 816
Location: Tucson, AZ
Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:28 pm quote
best deal I got a running P200E for $600. I also got a buddy 125 for $350(sold it for $1400. Worst dal, purchased a new Vespa GTS 300 super titanium gray for $7300 OTD and sold it a few months later for $5000.


Best ever deal on a motorcycle ever, I purchased a BMW K75 C 18 years ago with hard luggage, two helmets and a water suit for $300 from a boss. He use to use the bike everyday but when the weather got cold in the UK he parked it. Then the gas tank got some water condensation and water got into the injectors.

A few years later I sold it for over 10 times for what I paid.
Molto Verboso
Joined: 26 Oct 2015
Posts: 1147

Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:59 pm quote
Worst deal? Let's see...all three of the Lammys that I've bought. Luckily I'm now down to two of them. I guess it kind of offsets it for all of the good deals that I get on the Vespas.

Though not a scooter, I bought a KTM 520 dirtbike (it had a license plate), and rode it down the 250 miles from Port Angeles, Washington to PDX. It was February 3rd, and it didn't get above 43 degrees (I had to chip off the frost on the seat when I first got on the bike). It also DIDN'T rain for only 12 minutes for that whole ride. Somewhere on I-5 South, the kickstart lever fell off, the license plate fell off, the aftermarket turn signal kit crapped out, the clutch began to slip badly, the battery quit working, and the gear shift lever fell off. I was stuck in 6th gear. Luckily I could run fast enough to bump start it every time I had to stop for gas. I was sooo cold, my fingers couldn't remove my helmet or unzip my riding gear. I ended up hopping in the shower for about an hour with all of my riding gear on to thaw out. That bike was definitely a very bad deal.
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Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
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Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:42 pm quote
I live in a part of the world where rare bikes like the GS and SS are absurdly overpriced. I bought a rough SS180 and probably paid twice what buyers in the US would pay for it. I felt much pain when I saw that thread of the guy in the US who bought that red SS180.
Molto Verboso
Kymco Downtown 300i ABS
Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Posts: 1017
Location: UK
Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:26 am quote
I was once determined to buy a Benelli Velvet ( the one with a 250 Yamaha powertrain ) and I went to a scooter dealer in Newbury (UK) who claimed to be the Benelli agent. The new machine was ordered and duly arrived. After riding it home the handling was obviously chronic and that was because they had not pumped up the tyres.
That was the least of the problems it had, and it was fairly clear to me that it was not actually a brand new scooter but one that had been reconstructed. Within the first few weeks the silencer split due to being assembled in a stressed condition, the rear tyre self deflated because a car type valve had been used which fouled the brake calliper when it got hot. None of the body panels fitted properly because the frame seemed to be misaligned. When it was time to check the belt and rollers I found that a fin had been broken off the variator.
Throughout its life there were endless mishaps and breakages and I was actually delighted when it was written off by a young lady who was using her mobile phone when she ran into the back of me as I was waiting to make a right turn.
I wish I could say that that was the only time I was cheated by a back-street dealer... but I'll save that for another day.
Hooked
05 vespa px150 serie america
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Location: long island
Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:04 pm quote
pdxjim wrote:
This is easy. Paying full price for a 2005 PX150 from a Vespa dealer. What could go wrong?
Why? I ask
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Yamaha XMAX 300, Sprint 150, PX 150 (red) PX 177 (white)
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Posts: 582

Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:40 pm quote
pdxjim wrote:
This is easy. Paying full price for a 2005 PX150 from a Vespa dealer. What could go wrong?
Sigh. I did that twice.
The love/hate relationship is strong with these things.
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Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:54 pm quote
glitterballhedgehog wrote:
pdxjim wrote:
This is easy. Paying full price for a 2005 PX150 from a Vespa dealer. What could go wrong?
Why? I ask
Many reasons but I'll give you the major reason.
I bought two 2016 models, both needs major paint repair after 18 months. It's bubbling and rusting away before my eyes around the top of the legshield and steering column. Not covered under warranty.
Rust on the floor from water coming up the centre stand bolts.

I swear they did not prep or anti rust these things.

Also depreciation, 2 year old ones lose about 50% of its sale price, if I'm lucky.
Looking back I would have chased 2nd hand slightly used ones.
Hooked
05 vespa px150 serie america
Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 303
Location: long island
Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:24 pm quote
Other than idling prob, my PX holding up well. I'm thinking intake leak, new gasket w sealant should fix. My worst scoot purchase was Honda elite. Wouldn't cold-start, bought enricher solenoid, still NG. Lost interest. Disclosed issue, then sold. Made me want manual choke and a foot rear brake, ala PX.
Enthusiast
various
Joined: 20 Aug 2012
Posts: 99
Location: San Anselmo
Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:50 am quote
Sold my all original, perfect condition Rabbit superflow for
$300 to one of those brothers out in Porterville.
Enthusiast
P200e
Joined: 13 Feb 2017
Posts: 85
Location: Eureka, Ca
Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:21 pm quote
Got mine for free as it hadn't run in over 20 years.

It's no longer free....but it runs great
Hooked
Vespa
Joined: 25 May 2016
Posts: 252
Location: US
Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:10 am quote
Few years back, as budget only could afford for 1, chose to get Sprint blue badge instead of Allstate 101. I've been regretted every moment since.
Hooked
Ď64 V90 survivor
Joined: 30 May 2018
Posts: 133
Location: Madison WI
Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:12 pm quote
Before buying Elena thought I wanted a touring scooter so bought a nice low mileage GTS250. Lovely scooter rode it three weeks and sold for what I paid only lost transfer and title fees. For me it had all the character of a toaster.
Absolutely no excitement. Also showed me I donít need longer rides to enjoy myself.
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
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Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:34 pm quote
oh wow... there's just so many... the shitty sx150 that i bought in pieces, the super that i sold cheap to a friend because i thought i'd blown the seals on it but in reality was out of gas due to a fubar'd fuel tap, the wrecked honda that i bought and then the guy skipped town, the totally wasted rally 180 (at least it had a title), and the list goes on and on and on.

but the one that gets me still... bought a crap can 100 sport for 1200 and then got nailed for 500 worth of back fees. it was a *giant* lump of shit that i had more fun with than i should legally admit to. but still, almost 2K for a hammered 100 sport was not wise in the slightest.

it redeemed itself with a 4spd, malossi kit, big carb and a JL pipe down the line but the initial purchase still sits firm in my craw.

-g
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2006 250ie
Joined: 13 Jun 2012
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Location: Bellingham, WA
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:42 pm quote
greasy125 wrote:
oh wow... there's just so many... the shitty sx150 that i bought in pieces, the super that i sold cheap to a friend because i thought i'd blown the seals on it but in reality was out of gas due to a fubar'd fuel tap, the wrecked honda that i bought and then the guy skipped town, the totally wasted rally 180 (at least it had a title), and the list goes on and on and on.

but the one that gets me still... bought a crap can 100 sport for 1200 and then got nailed for 500 worth of back fees. it was a *giant* lump of shit that i had more fun with than i should legally admit to. but still, almost 2K for a hammered 100 sport was not wise in the slightest.

it redeemed itself with a 4spd, malossi kit, big carb and a JL pipe down the line but the initial purchase still sits firm in my craw.

-g
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:33 pm quote
phaskins wrote:
greasy125 wrote:
oh wow... there's just so many... the shitty sx150 that i bought in pieces, the super that i sold cheap to a friend because i thought i'd blown the seals on it but in reality was out of gas due to a fubar'd fuel tap, the wrecked honda that i bought and then the guy skipped town, the totally wasted rally 180 (at least it had a title), and the list goes on and on and on.

but the one that gets me still... bought a crap can 100 sport for 1200 and then got nailed for 500 worth of back fees. it was a *giant* lump of shit that i had more fun with than i should legally admit to. but still, almost 2K for a hammered 100 sport was not wise in the slightest.

it redeemed itself with a 4spd, malossi kit, big carb and a JL pipe down the line but the initial purchase still sits firm in my craw.

-g
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Seconded!
Molto Verboso
Joined: 26 Oct 2015
Posts: 1147

Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:15 pm quote
Rusty J wrote:
phaskins wrote:
greasy125 wrote:
oh wow... there's just so many... the shitty sx150 that i bought in pieces, the super that i sold cheap to a friend because i thought i'd blown the seals on it but in reality was out of gas due to a fubar'd fuel tap, the wrecked honda that i bought and then the guy skipped town, the totally wasted rally 180 (at least it had a title), and the list goes on and on and on.

but the one that gets me still... bought a crap can 100 sport for 1200 and then got nailed for 500 worth of back fees. it was a *giant* lump of shit that i had more fun with than i should legally admit to. but still, almost 2K for a hammered 100 sport was not wise in the slightest.

it redeemed itself with a 4spd, malossi kit, big carb and a JL pipe down the line but the initial purchase still sits firm in my craw.

-g
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Seconded!
Thirds!!
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300 GTS Super
Joined: 15 Dec 2017
Posts: 9
Location: Midwest
Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:18 pm quote
I bought a 50cc POS from a dealer in miami beach thinking it would be fine. Spent 600.00 for the new scooter, on the way home, the top case fell off and flew across the road. As i am riding in the bike lane I got passed by a bicycle.
Once home it would not go up the ramp to park as it did not have enough power. Sold it 8 days later for 300.00. Gal that bought it spent money to toon up and after it crapped out on her she sold it for 50.00
Ossessionato
LX150, GTS300, BV350, EN650
Joined: 26 Jul 2017
Posts: 4837
Location: Home of the Alamo
Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:39 pm quote
greasy125 wrote:
oh wow... there's just so many... the shitty sx150 that i bought in pieces, the super that i sold cheap to a friend because i thought i'd blown the seals on it but in reality was out of gas due to a fubar'd fuel tap, the wrecked honda that i bought and then the guy skipped town, the totally wasted rally 180 (at least it had a title), and the list goes on and on and on.

but the one that gets me still... bought a crap can 100 sport for 1200 and then got nailed for 500 worth of back fees. it was a *giant* lump of shit that i had more fun with than i should legally admit to. but still, almost 2K for a hammered 100 sport was not wise in the slightest.

it redeemed itself with a 4spd, malossi kit, big carb and a JL pipe down the line but the initial purchase still sits firm in my craw.

-g
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Where the hell ya been?
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 7128
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:17 pm quote
self imposed exile. needed a break from scooters and bullshittery to deal with life and the curveballs that it throws at you.

but, thank you all for the concern and warm welcome back. i'll try and get back to contributing more often and being a little more active around here this coming year.

-g
Ossessionato
LX150, GTS300, BV350, EN650
Joined: 26 Jul 2017
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Location: Home of the Alamo
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:10 pm quote
greasy125 wrote:
self imposed exile. needed a break from scooters and bullshittery to deal with life and the curveballs that it throws at you.

but, thank you all for the concern and warm welcome back. i'll try and get back to contributing more often and being a little more active around here this coming year.

-g
Glad that's "all it was."

A number of us feared you'd suffered serious malady. Or worse.
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:21 am quote
RoaringTodd wrote:
Bought a Tomos moped for my son that had an idling issue, from the neighboring state of New Jersey. $350

"Oh that'd be a easy fix". I thought to myself.

Went to register the moped in PA, turns out it's about $300 and a trip to Harrisburg with the moped since it's an out of state vehicle.

Fixed the moped, couldn't get it it run quite right, took it to my scooter shop, he adjusted some things, told me I should get new rear shocks. (he was not wrong). $250

Took it home... ran good for one day, then continued to have issues.

Sold it for a loss. $300.

The new owner texted me the next day. The crank disintegrated on him.
Almost fell for that one myself. Saw a Tomos for sale at a local estate shop for under 300. The owner wouldn't let me start it to hear how it ran so I gave it a hard pass. Eventually some sucker bought it but seeing as how I never saw the bike running around town afterwords I can only guess it never ran.

Glad I decided to save up and buy a Vespa instead.
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Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:21 am quote
The first Vespa 63 vbb, I had no idea what I was getting into or what a Curi and Bodge meant, gurrrrrr.
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