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Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:01 pm quote
So around June or July of this year I'm going to attempt another crossing of the USA but this time using a motorcycle.

I've done it on a scooter, by plane, on a train and just last month in a car but this year I'm going to do it on a bike.

I was supposed to do it this but an encounter with my own mortality and a family related malady kind of got in the way until it got too late to attempt it, hence the car.

The plan is to buy a bike ( probably on the east coast ) ride it then sell it at the end which sounds simple but isn't.

I'm working on a couple of routes but whichever one I use I'll be using Denver as my halfway point so I'll be there for 2 days at least.

This time I'd like to take more time to enjoy the country so rather than do a whistle stop like last month I'd like to drop in on one or two of you on the understanding that my plans could change if I like somewhere enough to stay for another day.

If anyone's got any advice to give me or if anyone wants me to invade their privacy please post it here or pm me.

So far I'll be looking for ways to register it, insure it, store it at the end and then way to sell it after I fly home.

Tell me your thoughts.

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:16 pm quote
Oh Birreh you AGAIN
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:20 pm quote
For selling, you can find a dealer that will take it on consignment at your end point. If no dealer will do that, there is always the pawn shop route too.
Not the way to make the most money, but it is the least headache.
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:43 pm quote
I’d rather find someone on the west coast who wants to buy a bike on the east coast, and “graciously” deliver it for them if they cover the expenses

Beyond that if your travels take you through Southeastern Ohio I have spare bedrooms and a very crowded garage full of tools. But hopefully you won’t need them.
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:53 pm quote
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If I'm honest I'd much rather do it that way also but I contacted two Royal Enfield dealerships in San Diego and one near San Francisco and they didn't reply so I looked east and they answered.

I went for a Royal Enfield because they are quite solid and simple.

Nothings set in stone though.

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:47 pm quote
Where will you fly into on the east coast? That will obviously impact dealer locations. There is one in Albany NY.
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:55 pm quote
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If I go with Marks in Enfield CT I'll probably fly into Boston.

This will be a work in progress until I find the bike I want and if it's on the opposite coast I'll start it from there.

Easy.

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:38 pm quote
I look forward to following your progress/planning on this. If you need assistance, let me know as I do occasionally go down that way.

There always the Albany NY option but Bradley is a bigger airport than Albany
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:17 pm quote
Here's one. Front and rear disk brakes.

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/mcd/d/jacksonville-2014-royal-enfield/6763857614.html
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:33 pm quote
That seat looks as comfortable as a burlap wrapped cinder block.

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:48 pm quote
Another option you may wish to consider is using Air Canada air freight to transport your bike from one of several UK airports to Montreal, Toronto or Vancouver. This way you don't have to deal with buying, selling or insuring a purchased bike without a permanent address.


Info here;


https://www.aircanada.com/cargo/shared/en/documents/shipping/FlyYourBike_brochure_en.pdf
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:51 pm quote
Looks like a pretty cool option. Never heard of being able to do that.

Damned progressive Canucks.
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:12 pm quote
I know this has been mentioned before. The Lincoln Highway runs from New York to San Francisco, through a lot of small town America.

https://www.lincolnhighwayassoc.org/

Travel safe & have fun, wherever you go!
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:34 pm quote
Jet Peddler wrote:
That seat looks as comfortable as a burlap wrapped cinder block.
Maybe you are looking at the wrong Enfield.

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:11 pm quote
There are companies that will rent you a MC for a week or a month at a time. Having the pick-up and drop off in different places might be an issue, but I can't imagine you're the first to do this.

Google Motorcycle Rental and see where that takes you.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:09 am quote
I have always dreamed of riding the four corners of USA.
I looked at a route from Charlotte NC (where my BIL lives) up to Madawaska ME, crossing diagonally down to San Ysidro CA taking in Route 66 then up to Blaine, WA and diagonally down to Key West, FL. Then I would return to Charlotte.

Costs proved to be prohibitive. Renting a bike in the US for a 4-6 weeks is more than the cost of one buying one outright where I live...

But it is still on my bucket list, including 'round Australia by motorcycle.
I rode the 4 corners of South Africa in 2007 (6704km in 11 days) with 2 work colleagues. That ride piqued my appetite to ride longer similar ones.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:03 am quote
Options
Thank you for your help everyone.

I'll try to answer a few of your points.

I looked into renting last year but availability was limited to Harley Davidsons, Victorys and BMW GS's

The cost for a one way ride with a couple of add ons was around $3500 to $4000 so that got canned quite quickly.

The two Royal Enfields above really aren't suitable as their seats don't lend themselves to long distance riding.

Compare them to the ones on the Classic EFI 500 and the Himalayan and you'll see why these two are the favourites so far.

They are cheap and reliable with a good dealer network.

I'm not going to ship my scooter to the USA for two weeks them home again.

It's expensive and pointless.

More coming........
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:13 am quote
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The Lincoln Highway looks really interesting and it takes me close to Denver which is helpful especially when my stop in near Greeley and Loveland in the north of the city.

Sorted.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:30 am quote
here's a Kymco option. Less than the RE cost.

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/mcd/d/jacksonville-beach-demo-floor-model/6770098539.html
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:08 am quote
Size
Oh I'm really liking that Kymco.

Strokes beard.

Anyone local ?

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:26 am quote
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Tell me I'm wrong but the scooters in the pictures look like 3 different bikes.

1 has a top case, the other has a aftermarket pipe and no case and the 3rd has an original pipe but has grey bodywork.

Which one is it ?

Is it $3500 ?

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:10 am quote
Some of the pictures look like they may be stock photos. Don't know for sure, but Image 5/7 could be the actual scooter on the sales floor. Could be worth a phone call or email at least.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:48 am quote
Mist
I doubt he will.

pm sent.

Thank you regardless.

I'll email them.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:26 am quote
2014 Royal Enfield Continental GT
Hi,
Not sure if this is what you are looking for but it was just posted:

https://vermont.craigslist.org/mcy/d/poultney-2014-royal-enfield-continental/6760168799.html
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:35 am quote
Plus
I think that the depth of the seat would prevent it from being used for long distance stuff.

A bit like me, its shallow.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:47 am quote
Bill Dog wrote:
The two Royal Enfields above really aren't suitable as their seats don't lend themselves to long distance riding.

Compare them to the ones on the Classic EFI 500 and the Himalayan and you'll see why these two are the favourites so far.
Yes, the Classic certainly has a classic sprung seat. I confess that I installed a Mustang sprung seat on a Ural I owned for
7 or 8 years. Put a lot of comfortable miles on it.

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Enfield 500 Classic

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Mustang seat on Ural

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:55 am quote
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That's such a pretty bike.

I still would like to own one in the UK.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:08 am quote
The Himalayans seem to be developing a cult following over here (judging by the ADVrider forum), are well reviewed, and since they're so cheap new I'd think you'd have an easy/easiest time flipping it on the W. Coast. Two year unlimited mileage warranty wouldn't hurt, either.

And of course they can cruise much faster than the older RE models.

Even tho the nearest dealer is six hours from here, I've read enough positive owner-reviews now that they're back on my short list.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:57 am quote
Not knowing which routes you've taken by land before?, I cannot make a useful recommendation, other than to say I would not do the Lincoln Hwy as my 1st choice, or my 2nd or my 3rd...
Given a choice I ride a Kymco, not an Enfield, just IMO thing.

There's a guy on the left coast who's a regular on the PTW forum "ADV", handle there is "Tuckers".
He's quite well known and has a sort of business finding MC's for world travelers who come here for long rides. he buys bikes for people, sets them up for their travel, goes through them for upgrades and been at it awhile. he assists with aliens buys and use of his address,etc..
Many of his clients are UK, OZ, Euro, etc.. He also buys back machines. He & his wife have toured the world on a MC and he's a Brit as well, so he speaks the "Queen's version" of English?
Might check him our and tweak your plans. If the handle I give is slightly off contact me via PM and I'll match you up there.
A "four corners ride" might be one persons dream but not my style at all. There are certainly places in all four corners I have enjoyed but don't plan a trip around touching all of them in one swing as I'd rather focus on seeing & doing what's of interest riding, hiking, so on in one corner, then maybe another trip another corner. As an e.g. I never go to FL unless it's winter as it's not my favorite place to be in the other 3 seasons and so on.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:59 pm quote
If Royal Enfield is your choice because you're a fan and love the bikes, than do it! But from the standpoint of "what if it breaks", I'd avoid them. Only 35 of the 48 contiguous states have a dealer. Almost all the states have only 1 dealer (California has 7!). If you break something that is a Royal Enfield specific part, you could be stuck for days waiting for a replacement. Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, H-D... all offer much better parts availability and dealer coverage. Something to consider.

All that said, my last trip coast-to-coast (and back) was on a 1949 H-D. There is very little parts availability and nobody will to work it even if I had the parts. As long as you are fully aware of the chance you could get delayed, it would be a fun adventure on a Royal Enfield. You don't see many of these in the USA.

-Craig
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:49 pm quote
So
I think I went for the Enfield because I feel more of an infinity to it than any of the Japanese stuff.

It's solid, simple and from what I hear these days reliable, however if a really cheap 883 came in I'd use that.

A Kymco would be ideal but I think that selling it post ride would take longer than most brands.

More coming......
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:02 pm quote
Leave it with someone to sell for you? -whatever it ends up becoming...
What about an Italian MC?
You could also buy a bike like the Kawasaki W650 and have it both ways-British nostalgia and Japanese reliability. There are some bikes sold nowdays that are sort of retro if that's what your after?

An 883 is not even close to the realm of Kymco or Enfield... but it's your party!
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:22 pm quote
Point
The 883 would be easy obtain and sell plus I like low reving thumpers also I wouldn't stick out.

I have no aspirations to ride anything Japanese no matter how good they are.

I don't trust Italian bikes enough to want to run the risk. Sorry.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:33 pm quote
I'd have to discuss with the wife but if push comes to shove sir, let me know when your trip ends if you still need a buyer. Pretty much anywhere in CA I could pick it up and ride it home.

It's a bit of a long shot but as a last resort. Let me know.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:50 pm quote
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It's worth considering thank you.

Would you ride it all the way to the east coast ?

Actually I'll make an exception on the Japanese front.

I'd have a Honda PC800 and I think that's it.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:29 pm quote
Bill Dog wrote:
I think I went for the Enfield because I feel more of an infinity to it than any of the Japanese stuff.

It's solid, simple and from what I hear these days reliable, however if a really cheap 883 came in I'd use that.

A Kymco would be ideal but I think that selling it post ride would take longer than most brands.

More coming......
There are plenty of 883’s out there under 4 grand, and if you go from east to west you might be able to sell it for as much or more than you paid for it. However, you will likely hate the stock suspension. I’ve had three Sportsters, the last one being an ‘06. Once I changed the shocks and springs I loved it.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:37 pm quote
Bill Dog wrote:
I don't trust Italian bikes enough to want to run the risk. Sorry.

Bill x
You had no problem and no breakdowns borrowing my Italian bike (Vespa) and riding it across the country a few years back yet you are on here bashing them and praising Kymco 24/7.

If there is always going to be a new Bill “coast to coast” thread excluding the namesake of this forum going over the same exact crap as all the previous ones my New Years resolution is to take a year off from MV.

My chin has been scratched so often it’s bleeding.

If anyone needs a hookup or any kind of assistance on your scooter PM me and I’ll do all I can for you.

Happy New Year all.

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Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:12 pm quote
I'm envious of folks like you, Bill Dog, who attack adventure with gusto. You must really love the uncertainties and unforeseen twists that go along with such a trek. I just don't have the back (or tail) bone for that sort of thing.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:13 pm quote
SDG wrote:
Bill Dog wrote:
I don't trust Italian bikes enough to want to run the risk. Sorry.

Bill x
You had no problem and no breakdowns borrowing my Italian bike (Vespa) and riding it across the country a few years back yet you are on here bashing them and praising Kymco 24/7.

If there is always going to be a new Bill “coast to coast” thread excluding the namesake of this forum going over the same exact crap as all the previous ones my New Years resolution is to take a year off from MV.

My chin has been scratched so often it’s bleeding.

If anyone needs a hookup or any kind of assistance on your scooter PM me and I’ll do all I can for you.

Happy New Year all.

SDG
A Vespa would be just fine if you had a kilt in your riding gear kit. However it's true that it's not a "bike" if that's defined as a motorcycle. Plus, Denver isn't exactly in the center geographically of the trip. Sounds like fun though, enjoy.
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:15 am quote
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I have friends in Denver and much as I know it's not halfway geographically it feels like halfway to me.

As for throwing myself into things that's how I know that I'm still alive and even after contracting Leukemia this year then losing both my parents it's only made me want more.

In August last year I was nutting down a French highway around 2am and I hit the corpse of a dear doing 80 mph while trying to break my own mileage record.

Even though it shook me up and made me question what the hell I was trying to prove for those few seconds it made feel totally connected and fully aware of my own mortality and I loved it.

I wouldn't walk in front of a truck just to find out which way it turned out but banging in those miles all day and all night while attempting to avoid injury is for me quite addictive so lets do it again.

More coming.

David, I've always said that the best Vespa I've ever ridden was the one that you gave me to ride the 2012 Cannonball and I will always be heavily in your debt.

Your kindness and generosity knows no bounds and if it wasn't for you I probably wouldn't be doing any of this so Thank You.

However my experience with my own Vespas and Piaggios in the UK was pretty dire so much so my faith in the product and its ability to actually properly become so eroded just I had to walk away from it.

I just got tried of forgiving it because it was Italian.

I could list all of the failures here but there's not enough time and I've done it before.

Needless to say they all broke so often I turned to a product that did the opposite no matter what I did to it, which made me wonder - how does that happen ?

How can the Taiwanese make a product that's better built and more reliable than the Italian brands when the Italians have been making them for far longer?

Now, am I going to keep this experience to myself because I owe you ?

It would be like praising your ex wife for decades for sleeping around.

It's just what she does so I'll forgive her.

The thing that everyone seems to forget is that for much of the rally - at least 3/4s of it I was in agony due to a MRSA infection that had started in my left hand and by the time I ended up in San Diego ICU it was up to my elbow.

I was in there for 3 days and I think the bill was around $50,000.

Now I could have given up, parked it, told you where it was and flown home but no I carried on riding that fucker to the end of the rally because 1 To show my gratitude to you and 2 I'm not a quitter.

I should have stopped riding but no, you went the extra mile so I kept my head down and got on with the job.

Kudos goes to Scutrbrau for sorting out the shit at the San Diego end also.

So please don't ever suggest that I have a short memory, I'm ungrateful or for that matter I don't have the right to be critical of the product.

I think I've earned that privilege don't you ?

Over to you.
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