Honda's X-ADV is recalled
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Molto Verboso
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:53 am quote
European Commission has issued a recall

From ADV site:

The recall effects X-ADV scooters that were produced between January 26, 2017, and April 10, 2018. The issue stems from heat. When continuously ridden at low speed, the heat generated affects the PPTC (Polymer positive temperature coefficient) device of the ECU. Once a certain temperature is reached, the scooter may enter into its fail safe mode.

The result on the scooter is that shifting becomes impossible. Accordingly, driving force may be lost and it will not be possible to continue riding.

https://advrider.com/honda-x-adv-is-recalled/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=01_07_2018
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:27 am quote
As they say "don't buy the 1st or 2nd year of production". I still want one
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:01 am quote
Bump
Wow, that's rare but hey it sticks out because it's rare.

Even the best can get it wrong sometimes.

Bill x
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:04 am quote
They just could not imagine, that someone would by an x-adv and "continuously ride at slow speed".

Like, buy a bunch of wood that says "keep away from fire"...
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:33 pm quote
RRider wrote:
They just could not imagine, that someone would by an x-adv and "continuously ride at slow speed".

Like, buy a bunch of wood that says "keep away from fire"...
There may be more to it than that. Like I imagine, riding flat out in Texas in the summer would heat up the ECU similarly. Hey, riding it hard in an offroad setting would also heat up any bike.
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:52 pm quote
Vintage1 wrote:
RRider wrote:
They just could not imagine, that someone would by an x-adv and "continuously ride at slow speed".

Like, buy a bunch of wood that says "keep away from fire"...
There may be more to it than that. Like I imagine, riding flat out in Texas in the summer would heat up the ECU similarly. Hey, riding it hard in an offroad setting would also heat up any bike.
Lots of heat can be dissipated with air flow though. Heat sink technology has really advanced in the past few years.
Molto Verboso
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:06 pm quote
WEB-Tech wrote:
Vintage1 wrote:
RRider wrote:
They just could not imagine, that someone would by an x-adv and "continuously ride at slow speed".

Like, buy a bunch of wood that says "keep away from fire"...
There may be more to it than that. Like I imagine, riding flat out in Texas in the summer would heat up the ECU similarly. Hey, riding it hard in an offroad setting would also heat up any bike.
Lots of heat can be dissipated with air flow though. Heat sink technology has really advanced in the past few years.
THAT'S the $64,000 answer. Air flow to the correct areas. Not like the rear cylinder of my Harley Police Bike I rode.
Be interesting to see where the Honda's ECU is positioned and what the fix is.
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:14 pm quote
Vintage1 wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
Vintage1 wrote:
RRider wrote:
They just could not imagine, that someone would by an x-adv and "continuously ride at slow speed".

Like, buy a bunch of wood that says "keep away from fire"...
There may be more to it than that. Like I imagine, riding flat out in Texas in the summer would heat up the ECU similarly. Hey, riding it hard in an offroad setting would also heat up any bike.
Lots of heat can be dissipated with air flow though. Heat sink technology has really advanced in the past few years.
THAT'S the $64,000 answer. Air flow to the correct areas. Not like the rear cylinder of my Harley Police Bike I rode.
Be interesting to see where the Honda's ECU is positioned and what the fix is.
Ifit were me I would put it right where the oil cooler would have been on a crotch rocket, right up front.
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:19 pm quote
The bike looks good and the tech is advanced but it's one heavy mofo.
It's nearly a quarter of a ton. Way too heavy for off-road fun.
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:28 pm quote
mickfitz76 wrote:
The bike looks good and the tech is advanced but it's one heavy mofo.
It's nearly a quarter of a ton. Way too heavy for off-road fun.
Okay, I had to look that spec up: yep, 524lbs, wet. Yikes.

I think there are maxis that tip the scales a bit more - Kymco's top-like model comes to mind, though I might be mistaken on brand - but when there are lots of serious MCs that weigh less, there just doesn't seem to be a whole lotta "scoot' in there.

That being said, sad to hear about the recall. Whatever the hell you want to call it, it is intriguing, and IMO less ugly than most maxi-scoots.

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Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:54 pm quote
bosh
This is ugly ?

Oh please.

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Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:58 pm quote
amateriat wrote:
mickfitz76 wrote:
The bike looks good and the tech is advanced but it's one heavy mofo.
It's nearly a quarter of a ton. Way too heavy for off-road fun.
Okay, I had to look that spec up: yep, 524lbs, wet. Yikes.

I think there are maxis that tip the scales a bit more - Kymco's top-like model comes to mind, though I might be mistaken on brand - but when there are lots of serious MCs that weigh less, there just doesn't seem to be whole lotta "scoot' in there.

That being said, and to hear about the recall. Whatever the hell you want to call it, it is intriguing, and IMO less ugly than most maxi-scoots.
I think my MP3 500 outweighs it.
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:02 pm quote
Madison Sully wrote:
amateriat wrote:
mickfitz76 wrote:
The bike looks good and the tech is advanced but it's one heavy mofo.
It's nearly a quarter of a ton. Way too heavy for off-road fun.
Okay, I had to look that spec up: yep, 524lbs, wet. Yikes.

I think there are maxis that tip the scales a bit more - Kymco's top-like model comes to mind, though I might be mistaken on brand - but when there are lots of serious MCs that weigh less, there just doesn't seem to be whole lotta "scoot' in there.

That being said, and to hear about the recall. Whatever the hell you want to call it, it is intriguing, and IMO less ugly than most maxi-scoots.
I think my MP3 500 outweighs it.
I see your MP3 and raise you a C650GT
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:02 pm quote
[quote="Harbinger"]
Madison Sully wrote:
amateriat wrote:
mickfitz76 wrote:
The bike looks good and the tech is advanced but it's one heavy mofo.
It's nearly a quarter of a ton. Way too heavy for off-road fun.
Okay, I had to look that spec up: yep, 524lbs, wet. Yikes.

I think there are maxis that tip the scales a bit more - Kymco's top-like model comes to mind, though I might be mistaken on brand - but when there are lots of serious MCs that weigh less, there just doesn't seem to be whole lotta "scoot' in there.

That being said, and to hear about the recall. Whatever the hell you want to call it, it is intriguing, and IMO less ugly than most maxi-scoots.
I think my MP3 500 outweighs it.
I see your MP3 and raise you a C650GT Over 600 pounds, I think close to 650.
Molto Verboso
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:26 pm quote
[quote="Harbinger"]
Harbinger wrote:
Madison Sully wrote:
amateriat wrote:
mickfitz76 wrote:
The bike looks good and the tech is advanced but it's one heavy mofo.
It's nearly a quarter of a ton. Way too heavy for off-road fun.
Okay, I had to look that spec up: yep, 524lbs, wet. Yikes.

I think there are maxis that tip the scales a bit more - Kymco's top-like model comes to mind, though I might be mistaken on brand - but when there are lots of serious MCs that weigh less, there just doesn't seem to be whole lotta "scoot' in there.

That being said, and to hear about the recall. Whatever the hell you want to call it, it is intriguing, and IMO less ugly than most maxi-scoots.
I think my MP3 500 outweighs it.
I see your MP3 and raise you a C650GT Over 600 pounds, I think close to 650.
Yes, but those rides aren't marketed as off-road possible. (Thankfully so )
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:28 pm quote
Vintage1 wrote:
Yes, but those rides aren't marketed as off-road possible. (Thankfully so )
Good point! Yeah I don't see myself taking it on the trails anytime soon...
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:42 pm quote
Re: bosh
Bill Dog wrote:
This is ugly ?

Oh please.
Okay, okay...knew I was going to ruffle feathers on that one. I have to come clean and say that what I regard as typical maxi-scoot aesthetics just Doesn't Do It For Me. (Just as you regard Vespa's aesthetic as, er, dated.) Just opinion here, no accounting for taste, etc.

That being said, that bike, in profile, does look rather nice, albeit a tad big for my taste.
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:52 pm quote
Re: bosh
amateriat wrote:
Bill Dog wrote:
This is ugly ?

Oh please.
Okay, okay...knew I was going to ruffle feathers on that one. I have to come clean and say that what I regard as typical maxi-scoot aesthetics just Doesn't Do It For Me. (Just as you regard Vespa's aesthetic as, er, dated.) Just opinion here, no accounting for taste, etc.

That being said, that bike, in profile, does look rather nice, albeit a tad big for my taste.
It's OK.. I get slagged for my GTV and BMW all the time...Still, I love my children.


(Secret be told I also thing the C650 is the best max-scoot made)
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