GT200 vs. GTS300
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Hooked
2013 Vespa GTS300 Super, 2005 Vespa GT200, 2003 Stella, 1980 Vespa P200E
Joined: 15 Jun 2011
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Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:01 pm quote
From time to time, you read of folks on MV comparing the GT200 to the GTS300. Usually, the GT wins out and is considered the “holy grail”.

I happen to own both, and have so for a good while, so I have skin in that game. And I love both.

My 2013 GTS300 recently turned over 40,000 miles (bought it new in 2014). My 2005 GT200 is closing in on 55,000 miles (bought it used in 2010 from the original owner).

In comparing the two, from a reliability standpoint, my GTS is the better bike. Both have been well maintained over the years. Not ridden hard, but regularly on both short hops and trips of up to 2,000 miles. At 40,000 miles, all the GTS has required (other than the usual tires, belt, fluids, plug) is a new variator, a new coil wire and two muffler swingarm bearings. In the first 40,000 miles on the GT, besides a broken variator, a bad ignition switch, a bad starter Bendix, and worn out shocks, a part broke in the carb and went through the engine and I had to go into the motor twice at 36,000 miles to make it right. Not to mention vacuum lines constantly needing attention.

So while I love my GT, the GTS has turned out to be the better bike. At 40,000 miles. At least in my case. We'll see going forward.

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Typhoon 125
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Location: Oregon City, OR
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:22 pm quote
Excellent first hand comparison. Thank you. I'm not sure many would argue that the GT is the better scooter - but some would certainly note that it can be purchased for quite a bit less (today) and it is probably easier to work on. Having said that - if I could only own 1 scooter, the choice would be easy. (it is listed over to the left )
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2018 Yamaha Xmax (Max), 2006 Vespa GT (Rocket): 2005 Vespa GT (Razzo): 2007 Vespa GT (Vanessa): 1965 Lambretta Li 125
Joined: 26 Sep 2006
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Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:24 pm quote
Nice comparison, Russ.

Not many around here ride and understand their scooters like you do.

While I truly enjoy my GTs, they are now old and constantly in need of repair.

Hard to find a new one these days.

Bill
Molto Verboso
GT200 & GTS250 & NC750X & Royal Enfield Pegasus
Joined: 23 Aug 2013
Posts: 1810
Location: London
Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:00 pm quote
Dooglas wrote:
if I could only own 1 scooter, the choice would be easy. (it is listed over to the left )
Typhoon 125?
Ossessionato
2006 GT200
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Location: Moscow, Idaho
Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:27 pm quote
I wuz rewatching a Scooterwest video on rebuilding/cleaning GT200 carbs -- cuz I need to work on my carb -- and Robot said essentially the same thing: in his (vast) experience the GTS, including the 250s, simply had fewer problems.
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Location: Wisconsin
Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:44 pm quote
I don't know enough yet in order to react to your comments about GT vs. GTS. I just want to take my hat off to your prodigious riding habits. 40k on a scooter in that short a time! Holy cats!
Molto Verboso
2016 Vespa GTS300ie abs/asr/ess Settantesimo '70'
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:03 pm quote
rwd...thanks for posting. And well done concerning the mileage on your bikes. Both the GT & GTS are great bikes but as you have found out, the GTS with its fuel injection is way more robust and reliable. That is also reflected in our scoot club too. Keep riding, keep posting!
Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Typhoon 125
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
Posts: 10312
Location: Oregon City, OR
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:05 pm quote
robinm wrote:
Dooglas wrote:
if I could only own 1 scooter, the choice would be easy. (it is listed over to the left )
Typhoon 125?
Well, if we were talking bang for the buck and drop dead reliability - the answer would be the Buddy 125.
I meant, of course, smiles per mile and broadest range of capabilities in one scooter - the GTS.
Molto Verboso
Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
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Location: Finland
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:43 pm quote
Interesting and rare comparison, not many have had both at the same time with such miles.

Just one piece in the equation, but in general, in all the bikes, I've been converted into a fuel injection man long time ago.

I used to feel, that because I can remove the carb, clean it, fiddle with needles etc., I have better control on the bike's condition. But then again, I started to realize that with fuel injected bikes, there's no need to do it

A good example is the first start up after winter storage, which means 6-7 months for me. With the fuel injected bikes it's always the same: plug the battery in, press the start and voila', engine runs. During the riding season, no matter whether engine is cold or hot, the mixture is always right. Just so easy and reliable.
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